Wrestling Thread Feb 20-26 | 2/24 Beware, There is a Criminal (Lobo) Lurking in this Thread

[illoquent aka dsk]

Originally Posted by venom lyrix

Originally Posted by YardFather

Dolph Ziggler does everything right.

he is by FAR the best in ring guy in the WWE right now, no questions asked, everyone needs to take notes from him.

Nah.

I'm a fan of Dolph and he's came a LONG way from his initial start but he's not a better in-ring wrestler than Punk, Jericho or Bryan as of today. So I'd say he's (at best) #4 in the company as far as wrestling ability.

Those guys I mentioned have had classic bouts outside of WWE and made a successful transition working the WWE style, which is based on simplicity and limiting your moveset. Each of those guys also have their defining matches in which they've demonstrated excellent technical skill and/or told a great story. Dolph hasn't had that...yet.

He's a great seller though.

Based on the big 3 categories (1. wrestling ability 2. mic skills 3. look/personality), my overall top 3 in the main roster are

1. Jericho
2. Punk
3. Bryan

If we're talking strictly in-ring skill it's

1. Bryan
2. Jericho
3. Punk

 

[4wrestling]

Dolph has a lot of talent, but he bumps around too much, taking too many stupid bumps. He still has a lot to work on to become a great worker.
I also think Punk's in-ring work has been down as of late.  He's been really sloppy.

 

[grizzly hebert]

Amazing how Ziggler was the only cat out of the Spirit Squad to really make it.

And he's only gonna go up from here.

Kenny gets kudos for knocking off Mickie James though.

 

[illoquent aka dsk]

Originally Posted by 4wrestling


I also think Punk's in-ring work has been down as of late.  He's been really sloppy.

Agreed, sloppier than usual. Hence why I have Y2J > Punk, in-ring wise.

Rey Mysterio, when healthy, is a top 5 worker in the company.

 

[venom lyrix]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Hebert

Amazing how Ziggler was the only cat out of the Spirit Squad to really make it.

holy crap...i remember when the spirit squad came in, I stopped watching a little after that, went on my WWE hiatus, just looked at a pic...woooooooooooooow

MIND=BLOWN

never thought I'd say that ^

I'm in serious shock, didn't know that was Dolph

 

[scott frost]

Thought Punk botched that sort of powerbomb/slam last night when he caught Bryan in the back with his knee. Was that supposed to happen?

 

[venom lyrix]

Originally Posted by MoodMuzik75

Class personified. 

 

[T0INE]

Originally Posted by Grizzly Hebert

Amazing how Ziggler was the only cat out of the Spirit Squad to really make it.

And he's only gonna go up from here.

Kenny gets kudos for knocking off Mickie James though.

Yeah man.   I thought Kenny was destined for big things in WWE, while the others feel off by the wayside.

 

[venom lyrix]

Originally Posted by iLLoQuent aka DSK

Originally Posted by 4wrestling


I also think Punk's in-ring work has been down as of late.  He's been really sloppy.

Agreed, sloppier than usual. Hence why I have Y2J > Punk, in-ring wise.

Rey Mysterio, when healthy, is a top 5 worker in the company.

Jericho in the ring since he has been back hasn't been good

 

[moodmuzik75]

Originally Posted by Scott Frost

Thought Punk botched that sort of powerbomb/slam last night when he caught Bryan in the back with his knee. Was that supposed to happen?

im pretty sure he was going for the welcome to chicago mother f**ker . without going to back to watch it again  im sure it was this . its a double underhook backbreaker type move. he used to do it a lot on the indies and does it occasionally in wwe.

 

[ggarvinxx3]

honestly it should be daniel bryan and cm punk main eventing WM in a match

champion vs champion winner takes all

 

[illoquent aka dsk]

Originally Posted by venom lyrix

Originally Posted by iLLoQuent aka DSK

Originally Posted by 4wrestling


I also think Punk's in-ring work has been down as of late.  He's been really sloppy.

Agreed, sloppier than usual. Hence why I have Y2J > Punk, in-ring wise.

Rey Mysterio, when healthy, is a top 5 worker in the company.

Jericho in the ring since he has been back hasn't been good

Eh, small sample size. Since he's returned, he's been in more gimmick/multi-tag matches (limiting his involvement) than 1 vs. 1's so I wouldn't use that to judge his work.

If memory serves me correct, I think the most amount of time he's had in a 1 vs. 1 was the 7-8 minutes with Sheamus in the Royal Rumble...and that was the highlight of the PPV.

MoodMuzik75 is correct. The backbreaker part of the move is what he %@%%%# up.

 

[grizzly hebert]

When the #+!% is WWE going to redesign the goddamn WWE Championship?

Hell... Id even take the Attitude Era, Winged Eagle, or Undisputed design ((which I hated so much it makes my balls hurt)

 

[yardfather]

Originally Posted by iLLoQuent aka DSK

Originally Posted by venom lyrix

Originally Posted by YardFather

Dolph Ziggler does everything right.

he is by FAR the best in ring guy in the WWE right now, no questions asked, everyone needs to take notes from him.

Nah.If we're talking strictly in-ring skill it's

1. Bryan
2. Jericho
3. Orton

Fixed.

 

[bobthehoe]

damn I'm getting the itch to go to WrestleMania XXVIII.

 

[Peep Game]

Originally Posted by theDEEK

Originally Posted by 4wrestling

 

[hellaones]

Originally Posted by Mcflyy

A.J looked damn good tonight.

Originally Posted by 4wrestling

Big Johnny dancing

anybody got a gif yet? 
and Mizark screaming down on Show had me in tears

damn good episode of SD imo

 

[Peep Game]

Let Eve cook

The hell

 

[4wrestling]

There is a good chance that there will be NO Money in the Bank match at Mania, and instead it will be replaced with a 4 vs 4 or 5 vs 5 Team Laurinaitis vs Team Teddy match.
They also piped in "Teddy" chants during the segment on Raw.

 

[naija nitemare]

No MITB?
Why Wrestlemania always gotta have stupid %%! %%%% on it all the time

Team Trump v. Team McMahon, Bret Hart vs McMahon, Big Show getting KTFO by Mayweather was

though

But for real @%!! all that %%%%

 

[bratz dos]

Thats clearly what the fans want. Not a match that everyone enjoys and actually means something.

 

[naija nitemare]

For real, you can't really build wrestler-centric storylines off a stupid +%@ match like that

I guess characters who don't compete for titles are more important to the WWE

 

[King of Trash Style]

Originally Posted by 4wrestling

There is a good chance that there will be NO Money in the Bank match at Mania, and instead it will be replaced with a 4 vs 4 or 5 vs 5 Team Laurinaitis vs Team Teddy match.
They also piped in "Teddy" chants during the segment on Raw.

 

[King of Trash Style]

I feel like this Mania is going to be the worse ever between booking and injuries









































Im talking WM 9 and 13 bad

 

[hombrelobo]

Originally Posted by 4wrestling

Originally Posted by CelticsPride34

Originally Posted by 4wrestling


Dolph posing.

Swagger doing pushups.

Vickie yelling.

What an awesome team.

I read this as sarcasm... was I supposed to?...

No, I really thought they were awesome tonight.