You know what, #%@! Chick-Fil-A!

[mints]

So Chick-Fil-A owner believes marriage is between a man and a woman.  That's their belief.  Who cares?  Not every business owner in society has to align to everyone's beliefs.  To all they gay people, get over it.  If you don't want to eat at Chick-Fil-A, then don't!  No need to make it a bigger issue.  I really don't see how one man's views effects your life in any sort of way.  Your real concern should be the US Courts and the legalization of gay marriage.  

You don't see how one man taking a portion of the profits he enjoys from a restaurant and putting it towards lobbying not just against stopping gay marriage from becoming legal where it isn't already legal, but rolling back the clock and making it illegal again affects others lives? I've known they were jerks for years and avoided eating there as much as possible, once this thing blew up acquaintances that just thought I had something against fast food chicken that's not popeyes were a little shocked to find out about some of the company's business practices. Aside from the anti-gay rights lobbying my biggest problem with them is the BS MLM style Leadership Conference, where you pretty much have to pony up the money and attend if you plan on moving up in their corporate structure.

 

[futuremd]

 

[lakersusctrojan]

You don't see how one man taking a portion of the profits he enjoys from a restaurant and putting it towards lobbying not just against stopping gay marriage from becoming legal where it isn't already legal, but rolling back the clock and making it illegal again affects others lives? I've known they were jerks for years and avoided eating there as much as possible, once this thing blew up acquaintances that just thought I had something against fast food chicken that's not popeyes were a little shocked to find out about some of the company's business practices. Aside from the anti-gay rights lobbying my biggest problem with them is the BS MLM style Leadership Conference, where you pretty much have to pony up the money and attend if you plan on moving up in their corporate structure.

It's his business, his money, his beliefs.  Who are you to determine how he spends his money or what he should believe in?  That's the problem with today's society.  Everyone wants to enforce their own beliefs on to others.  I have no problem of sharing your opinions or beliefs, but the moment you start to force others to sharing your beliefs, that's where it crosses the line.  Personally, he should've kept his opinion to himself and this drama would have been avoided.  Like I said, if you want to make an impact, do so with those that have influence ie the supreme court, state court etc.  As far as there corporate structure, that's is an entirely different issue.  Stick to the issue at hand.  I do not know their corporate structure and therefore cannot comment.  But sure, I see your point if true.

 

[futuremd]

 

[mints]

It's his business, his money, his beliefs.  Who are you to determine how he spends his money or what he should believe in?  That's the problem with today's society.  Everyone wants to enforce their own beliefs on to others.  I have no problem of sharing your opinions or beliefs, but the moment you start to force others to sharing your beliefs, that's where it crosses the line.  Personally, he should've kept his opinion to himself and this drama would have been avoided.  Like I said, if you want to make an impact, do so with those that have influence ie the supreme court, state court etc.  As far as there corporate structure, that's is an entirely different issue.  Stick to the issue at hand.  I do not know their corporate structure and therefore cannot comment.  But sure, I see your point if true.

I'm no one to say how he spends his money, I am someone to tell as many people as I know, especially the ones that believe in equal rights that when they go to Chick-fil-A a portion of the profits goes to lobbying groups that want to strip people of their rights. He can be as big a bigot as he wants to be, but he won't be able to use any money from me or like minded people to speak politically.

 

[lakersusctrojan]

I'm no one to say how he spends his money, I am someone to tell as many people as I know, especially the ones that believe in equal rights that when they go to Chick-fil-A a portion of the profits goes to lobbying groups that want to strip people of their rights. He can be as big a bigot as he wants to be, but he won't be able to use any money from me or like minded people to speak politically.

That's fair and reasonable.  If you are one who does not want to eat there, that is your choice and I agree with your beliefs completely.  Now if I want to eat there, that is my choice and you should have no influence on that.  

 

[mints]

Sorry to bump up the dead thread, but it appears the almighty dollar reigns supreme.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/19/chick-fil-a-to-halt-funding-of-anti-lgbt-groups-report/

The conservative fried chicken restaurant chain Chick-fil-A has agreed to stop funding groups opposing rights for LGBT people, some of which have been labeled as hate groups.

A press release from The Civil Rights Agenda (TCRA) said that Chick-fil-A had confirmed to Chicago Alderman Proco “Joe” Moreno that its nonprofit, the WinShape Foundation, would no longer donate money to anti-LGBT organizations.

“The WinShape Foundations [sic] is now taking a much closer look at the organizations it considers helping, and in that process will remain true to its stated philosophy of not supporting organizations with political agendas,” the letter stated.

TCRA noted that the company had clarified that groups like Focus on the Family and the National Organization for Marriage would cut off from future donations.

In a memo, Chick-fil-A executives have also told franchisees and stakeholders that the company’s policy is to “treat every person with honor, dignity and respect-regardless of their beliefs, race, creed, sexual orientation and gender,” and the “intent is not to engage in political or social debates.” Those guidelines were included in a document titled “Chick-fil-A: Who We Are.”

As a result of the new stance, Moreno has agreed to drop his efforts to block Chick-fil-A from opening a new restaurant in Chicago’s Northwest Side ward.

“We are very pleased with this outcome and thank Alderman Moreno for his work on this issue,” TCRA executive director Anthony Martinez said in a statement. “I think the most important part of this outcome is that Chick-fil-A has ceased their donations to anti-gay groups in 2011 and going forward. With some of the groups that they were donating to being classified as hate groups, and others actively trying to halt the movement toward full civil rights for LGBT people, Chick-fil-A has taken a big step forward.”

“We feel this is a strong step forward for Chick-fil-A and the LGBT community; although it is only a step,” Martinez added to Chicago Phoenix. “I’m not going to be eating at Chick-fil-A any time soon. … I think people should make that decision for themselves.”

Earlier this year, Chick-fil-A founder Dan Cathy told the Baptist Press that his company was “guilty as charged” of working to prevent marriage equality, sparking to a series of protests and counter-protests.

 

[lobotomybeats]

Sorry to bump up the dead thread, but it appears the almighty dollar reigns supreme.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/19/chick-fil-a-to-halt-funding-of-anti-lgbt-groups-report/

BRAVO!

 

[futuremd]

Sorry to bump up the dead thread, but it appears the almighty dollar reigns supreme.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/19/chick-fil-a-to-halt-funding-of-anti-lgbt-groups-report/

BRAVO!

Its funny how people said it couldn't be done.

Whats also funny is that CFA wins in the end because they're still going to convince people to come back and shop with them.

Ya'll can say "its just money" at the end of the day, but you can't forget how you would feel if they were donating to an Anti-You group. 

 

[Jordan8]

So the checks will just have Cathy's name on them personally instead of CFA?

 

[futuremd]

So the checks will just have Cathy's name on them personally instead of CFA?

Probably. 

But that was the problem in the first place. 

 

[futuremd]

Chalk this one up to the power of prayer. 

 

[futuremd]

Uh...welp...

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Dan Cathy tweeted a photo this week from the "WinShape Ride for the Family."

A Big Loophole? Chick-fil-A Is Already Raising Questionable Money

By Lucas Grindley

Originally published on Advocate.com September 20 2012 12:00 PM ET

Although Chick-fil-A supposedly assured a Chicago alderman that it would stop donating to antigay groups, this week it held a fundraiser for one anyway.

The fast food chain promised  in a letter to Alderman Proco "Joe" Moreno, reported by theChicago Phoenix, that it would end giving to any groups with "political agendas," implying it had stopped a practice that had led to about $5 million for antigay groups. But there might be a loophole.

Although the company's foundation might not be donating directly, Chick-fil-A President Dan Cathy tweeted a photo  on Tuesday from the 2012 WinShape Ride for the Family. He wrote alongside the picture of a pack of motorcyclists: "WinShape Ride for the Family bikers locked and loaded for 200 mile ride to Wilmington out of Charleston."

That long ride is a fundraiser for an organization that helps lobby against marriage equality. Registration forms for the event ask that checks be sent, not to the WinShape Foundation that Chick-fil-A operates, but directly to the Marriage and Family Foundation at 5200 Buffington Road in Atlanta, Ga.

The forms say the ride fee is $3,500 for each individual or couple. But sponsorship packages posted online show that organizations could pledge $5,000 for "silver" status, $10,000 for "gold" or $15,000 and more to reach "platinum." The Chick-fil-A logo accompanies everything, and so does the WinShape name, but it's unclear whether the foundation continues to make donations.

The Marriage and Family Foundation was not only included in the investigation by Equality Matters  of the fast-food chain's questionable giving history, it was identified  as the top antigay recipient in 2010. WinShape had given more than $1 million to the group in 2010 alone.

Equality Matters explained the group's history in detail. It was originally named the Marriage and Family Legacy Fund when it was founded in 2007 by a member of the Cathy family. In fact, the current Buffington Road address in Atlanta is now shared  by Chick-fil-A's headquarters.

The Marriage and Family Foundation was created as the "implementation and funding arm" for something called the Marriage CoMission, which Equality Matters  says is host to an annual conference about the supposed decline of marriage. The conference has been attended  by the founders of the National Organization for Marriage and Exodus International, which had once focused on changing people from gay to straight. The Cathy-family group originally was intended to contribute to multi-million dollar public awareness campaigns about its values.

Granted, the group's sole focus isn't on same-sex marriage. The CoMission emphasizes lowering the divorce rate and making couples more satisfied in their marriages, for example. But even in those instances, the group has made clear  it's worried only about heterosexuals being happy in their marriages and avoiding divorce.

Chick-fil-A was facing backlash not only from the local Chicago lawmaker, who blocked the chain's expansion to his neighborhood, but also from dozens of college campuses where protests were spreading. The chain is located in campus food courts across the country. Campus Pride had led in a lot of the college-level backlash and on Wednesday announced it has suspended  its "5 Simple Facts about Chick-fil-A" awareness campaign in response to recent meetings with Dan Cathy himself. It too had seen reason to believe the company is intent on changing its ways and Executive Director Shane Windmeyer struck a cautious note while saying he is "pleased" by what could be ahead.

The company itself has so far been mum on any change in policy. Representatives did not return multiple calls and emails for comment on this story. And they had also refused requests from mainstream media to confirm the Chicago alderman's version of events.

(UPDATE: Chick-fil-A Releases Internal Memo, But Did It Dig a Deeper Hole?)

During an appearance on Current TV  on Wednesday, Moreno claimed Chick-fil-A had taken "a big step forward." But when Cenk Uygur, host of The Young Turks, asked why the company wouldn't confirm its changing views, Moreno said it was apparently the company's policy not to talk about it.

Uygur asked why anyone should believe Chick-fil-A when it says it will stop making antigay donations, and Moreno said he'd seen new financial statements and the antigay groups were missing — although he did not say specifically whether the Cathy family's own Marriage and Family Foundation was also gone.

Although the company has no official anti-discrimination policy, it reportedly sent a memo to local operators explaining that everyone should be treated the same. The notice, titled “Chick-fil-A: Who We Are,” said the company would “treat every person with honor, dignity and respect — regardless of their beliefs, race, creed, sexual orientation and gender.” The complete memo was not shared, but it didn't appear to have included the word "discrimination."

Since this isn't any different from what Chick-fil-A has long claimed in public statements on Facebook and elsewhere, Uygur asked Moreno why it matters. "What if they don't follow through?" he asked.

"They would be breaking the law," Moreno said, citing his city's human rights ordinance.  "Now that they have adopted that within an official company document, in the legal field if they were to break that, or if a franchisee was to discriminate, there is going to be severe legal retributions to the company."

The Civil Rights Agenda of Illinois had been advising Moreno on his conversation with Chick-fil-A, and it touted  the apparent change in policy on Wednesday. But when reached today with information about the Marriage and Family Foundation fundraiser this week, Executive Director Anthony Martinez was concerned it might violate the spirit of that agreement.

"The agreement was that the foundation would no longer give to these groups, so we are going to have to take some time to obviously look into this," said Martinez. He said his group and the alderman both understood it would be important to monitor Chick-fil-A going forward.

Martinez said the Marriage and Family Foundation would need to have changed its ways in order for Chick-fil-A to honor what it told the alderman.

"In the past, their practices have definitely been against the marriage equality movement," Martinez said. "So the concern would be that, since it was founded by the Cathys, would be going forward is what they are using that money for.... Supporting family and marriage is definitely a good thing, but if they are working against marriage equality, obviously that is something that needs to be addressed."

Watch video of the Current TV interview with the alderman below.

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Source URL:  http://www.advocate.com/business/20...-money-very-week-anti-marriage-equality-group

 

[mints]

I knew deep down that they'd find a way to have it both ways, but I do find it hilarious that a bunch of angry right wingers that screamed it was a first amendment issue back in April/May now plan on boycotting CFA for kowtowing to liberal pressure.

 

[eracism]

CFA donates to a hate group and this bigot signs a law protecting CFA from discrimination.

 

[robtoofresco]

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I'm not going to stop eating at Chick-Fil-A.

Chick-Fil-A > Gay Marriage

 

[tr1ll]

On the real, unless CFA outright says or does something straight up discriminatory, you're gonna be hard pressed to find any chicken loving mfer to give up CFA. I know gay people what eat it without a bat of the eye. LBGQT mite as whale sit on down and eat this here chicken sammich. **** to delicious.

 

[sharpshooter718]

You don't see how one man taking a portion of the profits he enjoys from a restaurant and putting it towards lobbying not just against stopping gay marriage from becoming legal where it isn't already legal, but rolling back the clock and making it illegal again affects others lives? I've known they were jerks for years and avoided eating there as much as possible, once this thing blew up acquaintances that just thought I had something against fast food chicken that's not popeyes were a little shocked to find out about some of the company's business practices. Aside from the anti-gay rights lobbying my biggest problem with them is the BS MLM style Leadership Conference, where you pretty much have to pony up the money and attend if you plan on moving up in their corporate structure.

Most organization s will want your time and money in exchange for benefits...

 

[shogun]

People wanna cancel culture stuff unless it’s something they really like or can’t give up.

 

[eracism]

That's funny to you?

This isn't even about gay marriage anymore. They moved the goal posts even further out. Imposing their White Christian laws in the second biggest state in a country that prides itself as being the "Land of the Free". This is too disgusting to be funny.

 

[SC kid]

He said he would support them even if "they dug up MLKs grave and pissed on him"

 

[DCAllAfrican]

That's funny to you?

This isn't even about gay marriage anymore. They moved the goal posts even further out. Imposing their White Christian laws in the second biggest state in a country that prides itself as being the "Land of the Free". This is too disgusting to be funny.

Yes it is funny to me. Move along.

It was a funny joke. Move along

 

[sooperhooper]

Hmm. This could go left.

 

[nawghtyhare]

marry who u want
but leave cfa outta this
they entitled to feel how they feel