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"Losing Gortat Was A Big Loss For Them"
[::2009 Champion LAKERS OFF-SEASON THREAD Vol. Boring Non-News Days Causing In-Thread Tension::]
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"Losing Gortat Was A Big Loss For Them"
notorious 858
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Originally Posted by badboyf0life420
just stop ... you cant have an opinion if u dont even know whos playing on one team...
btw vince carter >>>>> hedo
Seriously !
I haven't been able to keep up with all of the NBA off season free agency stuff. I'm in Germany right now. Also if you think Vince Carter is a lotbetter than Hedo is than your a fool. VC is not the VC he was early in his career in Toronto when he was a top 5 player in the league. Heck right now VC is noteven top 10 in the NBA. The Magic may look better on paper but Hedo was a better fit for their team, he's a better spot up 3 point shooter and plays betterdefense than VC. VC & defense
Just look at it this way 3 of the Magic's starting 5 players from last year's team that made the Finals are gone !. You can have all the talent in theworld on one team but it don't mean that team will be a favorite to make it to the Finals or win a championship. A good example is the 2003-2004 Laker teamwhen they had Shaq, Kobe, GP, and the Mailman.
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Bass, carter, barnes, healthy jameer
the magic look promising.
and kobe always seem to have a hard time against carter
the magic look promising.
and kobe always seem to have a hard time against carter
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VC is better than turk...vc played consistant this season and he finally played 80 gamesOriginally Posted by Notorious 858
Originally Posted by badboyf0life420
just stop ... you cant have an opinion if u dont even know whos playing on one team...
btw vince carter >>>>> hedo
Seriously !
I haven't been able to keep up with all of the NBA off season free agency stuff. I'm in Germany right now. Also if you think Vince Carter is a lot better than Hedo is than your a fool. VC is not the VC he was early in his career in Toronto when he was a top 5 player in the league. Heck right now VC is not even top 10 in the NBA. The Magic may look better on paper but Hedo was a better fit for their team, he's a better spot up 3 point shooter and plays better defense than VC. VC & defensethose 2 words have and never will be associated with him. As far as VC 3 point shooting and mid range game is concerned the guy is above average but is also a very streaky shooter.
Just look at it this way 3 of the Magic's starting 5 players from last year's team that made the Finals are gone !. You can have all the talent in the world on one team but it don't mean that team will be a favorite to make it to the Finals or win a championship. A good example is the 2003-2004 Laker team when they had Shaq, Kobe, GP, and the Mailman.
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lakers/cavs on christmas day is going to be official soon.
- Sep 29, 2008
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Hell NO!
Everytime the play against each other.. Kobe always goes hard on him.. he even tries to toy with him a little bit.. i always noticed Kobe bringing out somefancy dribbles or whatnot to make VC look like a fool..
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Man I wish this lamar would sign already. I can get a lamar authentic for 40% off but I don't want to pull the tigger until I know what's up...
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We can't afford Iverson. In fact, there's very little we can afford since we're over the cap. We already used our MLE to sign Artest and ourBAE/LLE to sign Brown. Can we even sign a player to the veteran's minimum? We are allowed to re-sign Odom for more than that because he played for us lastseason.
People keep asking why not sign David Lee or Allen Iverson. The answer is simply because we can't.
People keep asking why not sign David Lee or Allen Iverson. The answer is simply because we can't.
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[h2]July 29, 2009[/h2]http://
[h3]A logical endgame: Udonis for Lamar
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[h3]> Posted by Ira Winderman on July 29, 2009 01:35 AM[/h3]
So the Lakers don't want to commit significant long-term money to a 30-year-old Lamar Odom? Understood, considering where they find themselves against the dollar-for-dollar luxury tax.
So the Heat isn't as concerned because just about all of its salaries come off the books after the coming season, when few are expected to be re-signed? Understood, as well.
So why not make it work for all parties involved, including Odom, who certainly is worth more than the $5.9 million mid-level exception?
Here's how: Work out a sign-and-trade agreement utilizing the expiring contract of Heat power forward Udonis Haslem.
For the Lakers, it provides a capable option for the power rotation behind Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum, one who is championship tested. And it still leaves the Lakers with Ron Artest and Luke Walton at small forward to fill in for that aspect of Odom's game.
For Odom, it means being able to start a contract with the Heat at about $9 million, the figure he has been working with in his dealings with the Lakers. The difference is the Heat appears willing to guarantee more seasons.
So, to recap: The Lakers would get something tangible for Odom. Odom would get his money, and not be left sulking as a mere "mid-level" player. And the Heat would reduce its glut at forward and open a clear rotation role for Michael Beasley.
Has it already been discussed? Considering the Lakers' hard line, who knows? But it certainly would seem to make sense for all involved.
(Also, your Heat questions are answered regularly at Ask Ira! and for Heat updates check out our Twitter feed.)
Rumors are all over the place now...
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I would not mind getting Haslem at all,
if we cannot re-sign Lamar that would be a very nice alternative option
if we cannot re-sign Lamar that would be a very nice alternative option
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Lakers better not do this
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i would start haslem and make bynum come off the bench lol haslem reminds me of horrace grant 
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Last but not least
I haven't heard this but I am on the search.
Damn....
I went from
Trading for Haslem is obviously better than letting Lamar leave for nothing. But Lamar declining the Miami offer makes me think he's going to come back toLA for sure.
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Odom is the only option for me.. If he doesn't come back then we'll just have to do it with the team we got.
Ima be at a funeral tomorrow, so I'll be out til Friday......if this deal goes down, I won't be happy, but it is better then nothing. Haslem is betterthen letting LO walk, so I can't be too mad at that.
All said though, if he turned down that MLE offer, and just wants a little extra money from Buss, and we could simply offer that money and keep him and notworry about getting Haslem adjusted to his role, and keep the extra ball handler that Odom is and the extra creator as well as locker room fav, that's mychoice.
Hope it ends the way we want it. Come on Lamar, sign the deal.
All said though, if he turned down that MLE offer, and just wants a little extra money from Buss, and we could simply offer that money and keep him and notworry about getting Haslem adjusted to his role, and keep the extra ball handler that Odom is and the extra creator as well as locker room fav, that's mychoice.
Hope it ends the way we want it. Come on Lamar, sign the deal.
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I tweet LO every day and he has YET to even send me one tweet
Hijo Del Promo
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Originally Posted by dirtyxcanto
I tweet LO every day and he has YET to even send me one tweet
its ok dude, keep at it.. mention candy or something, i did and he hit me back around the finals
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anygivensunday
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the lakers need to stop *$$%%%%%#+%! and give LO what he wants.. We're not winning without him.
ben roethlisberger
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Same here. I am not 100% confident we can repeat this year without him coming off the bench.
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Leave Odom alone man. This is the only time he's ever been wanted in his whole career. Instead of teams trying to get rid of him, they're finallyfighting for him. He's milking this for all it's worth.
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I love haslem as a player but we need a 4 that can step behind the 3 point line and start the offense if we want to most effective.
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??Originally Posted by Goldmember
Hell NO!
Everytime the play against each other.. Kobe always goes hard on him.. he even tries to toy with him a little bit.. i always noticed Kobe bringing out some fancy dribbles or whatnot to make VC look like a fool..
kobe vs nets in 2008 in 2 games...he averaged 13 pts 3 rebs 6ast shooting 27% from the field (5-1
35mpgkobe vs nets in 2007 in 2 games...he averaged 18pts 4rebs 7ast while shooting 29% from the field (5-17) 40mpg
kobe vs nets in 2006 in 2 games...he averaged 20pts 6rebs 10ast 4.5TO'swhile shooting 32% from the field (6-1
41mpgkobe vs nets in 2005 in 2 games...he averaged 35pts 2rebs 7ast 6TO's while shooting 38% from the field (11-30) 47mpg
kobe is the better play we know that...but when they go up against each other kobe seems to always have a hard time..
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Ummm.. so VC was the reason for all of that?Originally Posted by imINchucks5
??Originally Posted by Goldmember
Hell NO!
Everytime the play against each other.. Kobe always goes hard on him.. he even tries to toy with him a little bit.. i always noticed Kobe bringing out some fancy dribbles or whatnot to make VC look like a fool..
kobe vs nets in 2008 in 2 games...he averaged 13 pts 3 rebs 6ast shooting 27% from the field (5-1
kobe vs nets in 2007 in 2 games...he averaged 18pts 4rebs 7ast while shooting 29% from the field (5-17) 40mpg
kobe vs nets in 2006 in 2 games...he averaged 20pts 6rebs 10ast 4.5TO'swhile shooting 32% from the field (6-1
kobe vs nets in 2005 in 2 games...he averaged 35pts 2rebs 7ast 6TO's while shooting 38% from the field (11-30) 47mpg
kobe is the better play we know that...but when they go up against each other kobe seems to always have a hard time..
Did you watched all that games?
I'm just asking cause i cant remember most of that games
I know for the fact that Kobe always seemed to force plays (add the fancy stuffs that i mentioned earlier) when goin up against VC ..and that causes him a LOTof turnovers..
