I guess you missed the offense in 08Originally Posted by CasperJr
fixedOriginally Posted by fraij da 5 11
The O was the biggest FRAUD in preseason history
We must be watching different teams thenOriginally Posted by THE GR8
not to jinx it or anything but the Bears D has been on point thus far with Lovie taking over defensive play calling duties. They are definitley older and there is no Urlacher but although i know it is early they have DEFINITLEY played the best since we lost Rivera as our DC after those 2 years with just dominating, dominating defense.... hopefully we can keep it up cause i def got faith in Cutler and our O, and its usually the other way around with us
Hopefully they can keep it up and its not a repeat of that year where we went to the superbowl where our O looked like a dominant unit through the 1st 8 or so games and people were calling Rex Grossman an MVP candiate only to get exposed after that (luckily though we still had a functional tough RBin Tommy Jones and that was enough to go to the SB behind a dominant defense and one of the best ST units ive ever seen with Robby Gould's kicking, Hester being our entire offense, Maynard being Maynard, and a ST tackling unit behind Ayabadejo who was a BEAST that would always generate take aways.)
ohh really? lets take a step into the time machineOriginally Posted by fraij da 5 11
I guess you missed the offense in 08Originally Posted by CasperJr
fixedOriginally Posted by fraij da 5 11
The O was the biggest FRAUD in preseason history
Give it a rest man, damn. I dunno how many times I gotta say I don't derive my opinions of the offense from the preseason
Originally Posted by CasperJr
ohh really? lets take a step into the time machineOriginally Posted by fraij da 5 11
I guess you missed the offense in 08Originally Posted by CasperJr
fixedOriginally Posted by fraij da 5 11
The O was the biggest FRAUD in preseason history
Give it a rest man, damn. I dunno how many times I gotta say I don't derive my opinions of the offense from the preseason
now wat was you sayin?
i see you 2 packers fans didnt pick up on wat i was really pointing out.............try to look a lil harder
What are you trying to point out there bud?I said Rodgers looked ultra poised in the preseason which he did, and i said he will be a top 5QB, which i believe he will.
The one he threw to Sidney Rice was a good ball, but just a little bit overthrown...
What our D hasnt been good? We played two offenses supposed to be 2 of the best in the L and we literally shut down the Packers entire O(run+pass) other than that 55 yard TD bomb. They would have had wayy less points than they did if it wasnt for all of Jay's TOs which is not their faultespecially considering we got no Urlacher. And than the next day other than a few drives at 1st when Ben picked us to pieces our D was VERY strong for the mostpart especially in the 2nd half when they couldnt complete a pass and they couldnt run on us all game. And these were the champions and the D held strongenough to pick up a W.Originally Posted by illmatic34
We must be watching different teams thenOriginally Posted by THE GR8
not to jinx it or anything but the Bears D has been on point thus far with Lovie taking over defensive play calling duties. They are definitley older and there is no Urlacher but although i know it is early they have DEFINITLEY played the best since we lost Rivera as our DC after those 2 years with just dominating, dominating defense.... hopefully we can keep it up cause i def got faith in Cutler and our O, and its usually the other way around with us
Hopefully they can keep it up and its not a repeat of that year where we went to the superbowl where our O looked like a dominant unit through the 1st 8 or so games and people were calling Rex Grossman an MVP candiate only to get exposed after that (luckily though we still had a functional tough RBin Tommy Jones and that was enough to go to the SB behind a dominant defense and one of the best ST units ive ever seen with Robby Gould's kicking, Hester being our entire offense, Maynard being Maynard, and a ST tackling unit behind Ayabadejo who was a BEAST that would always generate take aways.)
[h1]Packers' Rodgers still has much to prove[/h1] [h1][/h1]
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Posted Sept. 21, 2009 @ 10:35 a.m.
By Nolan Nawrocki
Prior to finishing his first year as a starter, Packers QB Aaron Rodgers was awarded a long-term extension, and the media widely began to paint him as an up-and-coming star.
Through two weeks of the 2009 season, savvy evaluators remain very skeptical, pointing out his tendency to squeeze, squeeze and squeeze the ball before he unloads it, taking too much time to get it out of his hands and pull the trigger. His offensive line did not give him much help in the 31-24 loss to the Bengals, especially after OLT Chad Clifton was knocked out of the game early in the second half, and the pocket began to fold very fast.
ORT Allen Barbre is still very much a project, not strong enough or physical enough to handle the right side, and OLG Daryn Colledge, a college left tackle, proved why he needed to move inside as a pro when he kicked out to replace the injured Clifton. Colledge's short arms and soft demeanor allowed the Bengals to terrorize the corner. The Packers' edges looked like a swinging gate for most of the second half, as Antwan Odom notched a career-high five sacks, and pressure on Rodgers was very consistent.
Nonetheless, no quarterback can expect the pocket to remain clean, and Rodgers, who lacks escapability, was just as much to blame for not getting rid of the ball more quickly. He too easily is tracked down like he is moving in mud anytime a defender comes close to him, and his eyes too quickly began to drop when he was pressured.
"Everyone wants to anoint him before he passed the test," an NFL evaluator said following the game. "He was 6-10 in his first year as a starter, and people want to say he is better than (Brett) Favre. If I were Brett, it would probably hit my button, too. What has (Rodgers) done?"
Some evaluators are even convinced backup Matt Flynn has a brighter future than Rodgers, having shown great ball placement in the preseason and much better escapability, which is more valued behind a line playing as poorly as the Packers'. If Rodgers should go down, as he has had a tendency to do early in his career, it could be a blessing in disguise.
The jury remains out not only on Rodgers but on a Packers team that many predicted could contend for the NFC championship. The running game is struggling to establish itself, and the Packers barely escaped the first week, in which the Bears were badly stricken by injury and Jay Cutler tossed a career-high four interceptions in a loud, hostile environment. Now, the Packers could be seriously tested next week by a St. Louis defense that has been much improved under Steve Spagnuolo's leadership.
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[h1][/h1]Some evaluators are even convinced backup Matt Flynn has a brighter future than Rodgers
Originally Posted by JPZx
The one he threw to Sidney Rice was a good ball, but just a little bit overthrown...
The other two were lofted because Favre was hit as he was throwing it and the ball got elevated because of it. Seriously.
"The Lions did a good job of controlling the line of scrimmage against what the Vikings say is a great defense"
We only let the Lions get one, single touchdown. 13 points in all....I don't care who the team is that we're playing, keeping a team to 13 points is great. Greenway absolutely owned Stafford....2 interceptions where he read his eyes all the way.
By the way...Pettigrew is slow as hell. I didn't like that pick before the game and it's even less appealing to me now. Should have gone with Oher. The Lions have absolutely no line but yet they decided to use their #20 pick on a TE?
Considering the score's of last years' games between the Lions/Vikings were 12-10 and then 20-16 (point differential of 6) and then we beat the Lions this season just this past Sunday by the score of 27-13 (point differential of 14) I'd say the Vikings are in great shape. The Lions always play us tough....to come out of that game with a 2 TD win is great and I'm very satisfied with it.
