2010 Official Boxing Thread: Soto/Antillon, 2010 Fight of the Year.

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Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

he Leaped out the ring like sabu. get this #*$% boy outta here

This *++% got me weak...

Have not heard that name in ages.

Sidenote: I think PBF should use Mr. Perfect's ring entrance music for his next fight

 

[proshares]

I just hope PBF and Manny come to an agreement, I really don't want to see the devil put Margarito in there with Manny.

 

[got shoes]

I knew it was dove b4 the replay. He clearly thought he was Shamu the Whale out there. lol

 

[h3at23]

Damn, I also missed a Mags fight?!

 

[h3at23]

GUNNA GET IT wrote:

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explain how he landed on his left side but was holdin his right side when he was layin on the ground face first

Im leavin the house on that note

*Seinfeld gif*


If you look closely, he hit the right side of his head 1st on the side of the ring before landing on the table.

 

[caponecartels]

I heard Margarito actually used some defense against Garcia.

 

[bigmike23]

His head didn't hit a god damn thing


Then when he rolled on the table they stoped him but HE rolled his body off it

 

[gunna get it]

Originally Posted by CaponeCartels

I heard Margarito actually used some defense against Garcia.

Yea thats why I thought his chin might be suspect. he took a cple shots early then after that he covered up. u know not the usual block everything with his face Margarito that we've grown acustomed to seeing.
 that Garcia guy was straight bush league tho, all hooks and hitting behind the head late.

even I couldnt co-sign what he was doing to Antonio and I hate him
  

 

[caponecartels]

Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

Yea thats why I thought his chin might be suspect. he took a cple shots early then after that he covered up. u know not the usual block everything with his face Margarito that we've grown acustomed to seeing.
 that Garcia guy was straight bush league tho, all hooks and hitting behind the head late.

even I couldnt co-sign what he was doing to Antonio and I hate him
  

Damn, That's how you know Gracia was garbage.

 

[proshares]

It'll definitely be interesting to see where he goes from here. Can't say I'm not subconsciously rooting for him.

 

[proshares]

Watching the replay, looks like Kermit pulled the first two rounds out. Wouldn't be opposed to a rematch.

 

[dontsteponmyshoes]

dude doesnt deserve a rematch tna wrestling should be his next stop

 

[scott frost]

Just caught the fight on my DVR and immediately came to check out this thread, needless to say I was not disappointed. The Sabu reference, and subsequent posting of the picture of him flying out of the rign, is quite frankly one of the funnier things I have read in a very long time

 

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Originally Posted by DontStepOnMyShoes

dude doesnt deserve a rematch tna wrestling should be his next stop

Yea, after re-watching him and the Pierce-esque performance I've changed my train of thought

 

[kn0wledgeable]

found some pics of pacquiao when he was 17 if anyone wants to look at them. there's more pics in the link


pacman at 17 pics

edit.

i posted the pics in here cause if i post them as their own thread....a lot of people gonna say he's juicing(which he may be) but we all know he started fighting at 106.

 

[gunna get it]

yea those pics def didnt deserve its own thread. most boxing fans have seen Pac in his younger days.
being a teenager has lil to do with whether he's clean or not, so I would hope no one would draw any foolish conclusions from pics from 15 or so yrs ago

 

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Junior middleweight Paul Williams Tech. Dec. 4 Kermit Cintron Scores: 40-36, 39-37 Williams, 40-36 Cintron​

Records: Williams, 39-1, 27 KOs; Cintron, 32-3-1, 28 KOs

Rafael's remark: That was interesting, wasn't it? It's not every day that you see a fight just about to break out when all of a sudden a guy goes flying out of the ring, bringing the bout to an abrupt halt. It was that kind of brutally disappointing night for everyone involved, from the fighters to the promoters to HBO to the fans. In one of the stranger things you'll ever see in boxing (which is saying an awful lot), Cintron and Williams got tangled up less than 30 seconds into the fourth round when Williams slipped to the canvas, and Cintron tripped over him and went flying between the ropes. Cintron landed headfirst on a ringside table before crashing to the floor. And just like that, the fight was over. Cintron wanted to continue, but California ringside doctor Paul Wallace called off the fight. California is one of the rare states in which the doctor or the referee can stop the fight. So Cintron was fitted with a neck brace and taken away on a stretcher and to the hospital as a precaution while Williams received a ridiculous technical decision win due to California's horrible and antiquated rules. In almost every other state in the nation, the fight would have been ruled a no decision because it would have been fought under the Association of Boxing Commissions rules, which say a fight must go four complete rounds before you can go to the cards for a technical decision. Those are the rules the Cintron camp wanted before the fight, but they were rejected. The geniuses in California, however, have a rule that as long as the fourth round begins, a technical decision can be declared if there is an accidental foul. So this one ended early in the fourth round and it went to the cards, which included having the judges absurdly score the partial fourth round in which nothing definitive happened other than Cintron being ejected from the ring. The judges blew it big time. How in the world could one judge (James Jen Kin) have it 40-36 for Williams while another (Jerry Cantu) had the same score for Cintron? Ridiculous. Only judge Fritz Werner, who had it 39-37 for Williams, was in the ballpark. At the very least, the fourth round should have been even on all three cards because nothing of consequence happened in the 30-second round. If you have to score the fourth round, ESPN.com had it 39-38 for Cintron while watching from the comfort of the recliner. In any event, neither Williams, 28, of Augusta, Ga., nor Puerto Rico's Cintron, 30, looked all that good for the first three-plus rounds. They both landed some solid shots and were fighting on even terms, even though many in the extremely sparse crowd were booing. But the fight, matching former welterweight titleholders, was just starting to heat up when it came to the abrupt end. Cintron was disgusted as he was being wheeled away. Even Williams seemed almost embarrassed about being given a "win" under the bizarre circumstances. What a disappointing night. Lou DiBella, Cintron's promoter, told ESPN.com that he would protest the result but really wanted Cintron to get a rematch more than anything. A rematch is obviously in order, but Williams has his eye on a bigger fight against either Floyd Mayweather Jr. or Manny Pacquiao at welterweight if those two stars don't meet. The fight appears unlikely, but you never know. One thing is for sure -- if there is a rematch, it shouldn't take place on the West Coast in front of a virtually empty arena, because neither man has any fans there. It should happen on the East Coast, where it would have at least a chance to sell tickets. Williams also could go after a rematch with Sergio Martinez, whom he barely outpointed in a sensational fight in December before Martinez went on to win the middleweight championship from Kelly Pavlik last month.

Records: Mendez, 16-1, 9 KOs; Honorio, 28-5-1, 14 KOs

Rafael's remark: Mendez, 23, a New York-based native of the Dominican Republic, was a 2004 Dominican Olympian. A bright prospect, he was signed with Top Rank until suffering a surprising split-decision loss in an eight-rounder to Jaime Sandoval in October 2008. Top Rank lost confidence in him, and he signed with Lou DiBella. After a couple of wins, he took on Mexico's Honorio, 30, a battle-tested contender, in a crossroads bout. Honorio had won four in a row to re-establish himself since being knocked out in one round by then-featherweight titlist Robert Guerrero in November 2007. Honorio was the aggressor and was busier, but Mendez was a little quicker and slicker as he claimed the competitive decision for the biggest victory of his career, his fourth win in a row since the lone loss.

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Saturday at Carson, Calif.​

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Junior lightweight
Argenis Mendez W12 Martin Honorio
Scores: 116-112 (twice), 114-114
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Junior middleweight Antonio Margarito W10 Roberto Garcia Scores: 100-88, 99-90, 99-89​

Records: Margarito, 38-6, 27 KOs; Garcia, 28-3, 21 KOs

Rafael's remark: After a stretch of 16 months out of the ring, Margarito made his comeback in front of more than 17,000 supportive fans at a bullring in Mexico, where he was hailed as a returning hero. However, he was fighting in Mexico because he is not licensed in the United States, at least not yet. That's because of the well-documented reason why he was out of the ring for so long. We all know the story by now, about how prior to his welterweight title defense against Shane Mosley in January 2009 in Los Angeles, Mosley's trainer, Naazim Richardson, objected to the way Margarito's hands were wrapped. Illegal pads coated with a plaster-like substance were subsequently discovered in his hand wraps. His hands were rewrapped, the fight went on and Mosley beat the living daylights out of him until knocking him out in the ninth round for an upset. Margarito and trainer Javier Capetillo, who took the blame for the illegal inserts, later had their licenses revoked by California officials, sending them into a deserved exile. With the year up, Margarito, who severed ties with Capetillo, returned to action in Mexico, where he always would have been welcome during his suspension. He faced the extraordinarily slow but tough Garcia in the main event of a Top Rank "Latin Fury" pay-per-view card. With new trainer Robert Garcia (no relation to the opponent) in his corner, Margarito rolled to a lopsided decision. Margarito, 32, of Mexico, dropped Roberto Garcia, 30, of Weslaco, Texas, in the first round with a nice three-punch combination punctuated by a hard right hand and was in control all the way. Garcia battled back as best as possible, but Margarito was simply too good and talented for him. The bout was never in doubt, especially after Garcia was docked points by referee Jose Guadalupe Garcia for head butting in the eighth round and for a low blow in the 10th round. Considering the long layoff and the fact that he was coming off a one-sided knockout loss, Margarito looked pretty good, although Garcia was the absolute perfect opponent for him. What Margarito does next will depend on a few things. Can he get a license in the United States? He probably will be able to in many jurisdictions, but it might take some jumping through hoops to get one. But he probably will at some point. Assuming he is eventually licensed, whom will he fight? Top Rank's Bob Arum has mentioned a possible fight with Manny Pacquiao, which is a fight Margarito says he wants badly. Of course, the world wants to see Pacquiao against Floyd Mayweather, so a Margarito fight would come off only in the event that mega-fight doesn't happen. There also potentially could be a rematch with Miguel Cotto if Cotto defeats Yuri Foreman on June 5 or a rematch with middleweight champ Sergio Martinez, whom Margarito knocked out in 2000. There are interesting options for Margarito, even if there are still a lot of folks who don't believe he should be allowed to fight because of the hand-wrapping scandal, for which he has never taken responsibility.

Records: Solis, 39-2-2, 28 KOs; Santiago, 21-3-1, 14 KOs

Rafael's remark: Mexico's Solis, 30, the brother of former junior flyweight titlist Ulises Solis, is a good fighter. Think about it -- in a 12-year pro career, his only losses have come to Manny Pacquiao via eighth-round knockout in 2007 and a decision loss challenging Cristobal Cruz for a featherweight title in July 2009. Solis had previously defeated Cruz in 2003. In any event, after losing the decision to Cruz in their title rematch, Solis moved up to junior lightweight and survived a knockdown to knock out Likar Ramos in the seventh round to win an interim belt in February. It's one of the bogus WBA variety, the sort the vile organization gives out just because. The reality is that Japan's active and uninjured Takashi Uchiyama holds the title. But that doesn't stop the WBA from handing out another one for no reason other than the sanction fee that goes with it. So Solis and his handlers, Top Rank and Fernando Beltran, paid the piper, and he defended it against Puerto Rico's Mario Santiago, 31, whose career has really fallen off with his second loss in a row. Solis utterly dominated. He was quicker and very accurate with his punches throughout the fight, cracking Santiago upstairs and downstairs and taking very little fire in return. Santiago had come within a point of winning a featherweight belt from Steven Luevano in June 2008 but wound up with a draw. Then Santiago won two fights in a row before losing a decision to Bernabe Concepcion in February in a fight in which Top Rank promoter Bob Arum had promised the winner a shot at featherweight titlist Juan Manuel Lopez in July. Although Santiago lost, he still wound up getting a nice consolation prize -- a shot at Solis' belt and a $50,000 payday. He better enjoy it, because there aren't going to be too many more of those purses with the ineffective way he fought. As if the scores weren't obviously going to be hugely lopsided in favor of Solis, Santiago lost a point for hitting behind the head in the ninth round.

Records: Antillon, 28-1, 20 KOs; Gonzalez, 27-2-1, 21 KOs

Rafael's remark: Antillon, 27, of Maywood, Calif., was on a good roll when he ran into Miguel Acosta in a fight for an interim belt 10 months ago. Antillon was handling himself well before he walked into a big knockout punch and was stopped in the ninth round of the upset loss. Now, he's won two in a row since that crushing loss, including this exciting but one-sided decision against Nicaragua's Gonzalez, 24, who entered the bout 12-0-1 in his past 13. Antillon was just stronger and let Gonzalez know it. Antillon took his share of blows, but he was the better man. He dropped Gonzalez in the first round and again in the seventh round en route to the lopsided decision. Antillon was originally supposed to fight the more dangerous Brandon Rios, but Rios suffered a cut during training and was replaced by Gonzalez on short notice. Top Rank could put Antillon-Rios on a future card, or one of them could get a fight with highly regarded Anthony Peterson this summer.

Records: Garcia, 22-0, 18 KOs; Navarrete, 24-8-3, 13 KOs

Rafael's remark: Garcia, 22, of Oxnard, Calif., is a tremendous prospect who looks like a future champion. But he's young and still needs experience in tough fights, and Mexico's Navarrete, 28, gave him the toughest bout of his career. The fight was not even slated to be part of the Top Rank pay-per-view card until flyweight prospect Alonso Lopez's bout was called off at the last minute. So Garcia and Navarrete were moved up to the televised part of the card. Lucky for us. It turned to be a heck of a scrap and one in which Garcia got a good test. Garcia clearly won, but it wasn't easy, as they had numerous exchanges and Navarrete buzzed Garcia (trained by older brother and former world titleholder Robert Garcia) a few times, including in the toe-to-toe eighth round in which both men were going for the knockout. Good fight to open the show. Navarrete fell to 1-4 in his past five, but he'd probably give anyone a test.

Records: Benavidez, 5-0, 5 KOs; Pacheco, 3-6-1, 1 KO

Rafael's remark: Top Rank's highly touted Benavidez is just 17 (he turns 18 next week) but fights in a style mature beyond his years. The former amateur standout from Phoenix turned pro in January and is trained by Freddie Roach, although with Roach prepping Amir Khan for Saturday's title defense against Paulie Malignaggi, he was not in the corner. But Benavidez did not need him as he routed Mexico's Pacheco. He dropped Pacheco with a body shot, and although Pacheco got up, he fell again and the referee stopped the bout. Top Rank will keep Benavidez busy fighting roughly once a month. He's expected back on the June 26 pay-per-view card headlined by Julio Cesar Chavez against John Duddy in San Antonio.

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Saturday at Aguascalientes, Mexico ​

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Junior lightweight
Jorge Solis W12 Mario Santiago
Retains an interim junior lightweight title
Scores: 119-108, 118-109 (twice)
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Lightweight
Urbano Antillon W10 Rene Gonzalez
Scores: 100-90, 99-91 (twice)
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Featherweight
Miguel Angel "Mikey" Garcia W8 Pedro Navarrete

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Junior welterweight
Jose Benavidez TKO1 Arnoldo Pacheco

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Junior bantamweight Hugo Cazares W12 Nobuo Nashiro Wins a junior bantamweight title Scores: 117-111 (twice), 115-113​

Records: Cazares, 31-6-2, 22 KOs; Nashiro, 13-2-1, 8 KOs ​

Rafael's remark: When Japan's Nashiro defended his 115-pound belt against Mexico's Cazares in Japan in September, Nashiro, 28, retained his title via split draw for his third defense in an excellent fight. Because it was so good and ended in a draw, you know what that meant, right? Immediate rematch. That's what they did, and Cazares, on the road again, took a clear decision in another excellent fight to claim a title in his second division. Cazares, 32, also was a former legitimate junior flyweight world champion before losing the title to Ivan "Iron Boy" Calderon in 2007 and eventually moving up two weight divisions. Unlike the fight this past fall, there was no debate about the winner this time around. Cazares clearly won, despite the closer-than-expected 115-113 scorecard. Cazares was busier and appeared to land the heavier blows against a Nashiro who wasn't as sharp as he usually is. But it was still an entertaining bout, one in which Japanese reporter Joe Kozumi quoted referee Russell Mora as saying it was "the hardest toe-to-toe combat he had ever officiated." The last few rounds were grueling and exciting, culminating with a fantastic 12th round in which they traded toe to toe for virtually the entire three minutes. It's definitely a round of the year candidate up there with the final round of the Mikkel Kessler-Carl Froch classic 12th round. So now Cazares owns a WBA title. Lucky him. Too bad there are two other guys in his division who also have junior bantamweight titles. Vic Darchinyan, the legit champion, is the so-called "super" champion who has unified titles. And then there is Nonito Donaire, who has an interim title. But having a bunch of titles from the same organization in one division is so much fun, right? Hey, titles for everyone!

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Saturday at Osaka, Japan ​

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Light heavyweight Yordanis Despaigne W10 Richard Hall Scores: 100-90 (three times)​

Records: Despaigne, 6-0, 4 KOs; Hall, 29-8, 27 KOs

Rafael's remark: Despaigne isn't your average 6-0 fighter. He was an Olympian for the powerhouse Cuban team in 2004 before eventually defecting and turning pro last May. Despaigne owns an amateur victory against Andre Dirrell (2004 Olympic bronze winner and super middleweight contender) and defeated Jean Pascal (reigning light heavyweight titlist) and Karoly Balzsay (former super middleweight titlist) in the 2004 Games before eventually falling to Dirrell. So when featherweight contender Antonio Escalante, scheduled to headline "Friday Night Fights" in his hometown of El Paso, withdrew because of elbow injures, Despaigne-Hall was made and the fight moved to the Albuquerque, N.M., to top a card being promoted by former world champ Danny Romero. It looked like an interesting match. In the 38-year-old Hall, Despaigne was facing an extremely experienced opponent. Hall, from Jamaica and living in South Florida, challenged a prime Roy Jones Jr. for the light heavyweight title and was stopped in the 11th round in 2000. He also twice challenged then-titlist Dariusz Michalczewski in 2001 and 2002 but was stopped late in both fights. Hall returned from a two-year layoff to stop Jaffa Ballogou in the first round in February and looked like he might pose a test for a new professional. But Despaigne totally dominated. He picked the slower Hall apart, turning in a steady performance to shut him out and drop Hall to 2-4 in his past six bouts. Clearly, Despaigne, with such a prodigious amateur career, is on the fast track.

Records: Mitchell, 17-0-1, 11 KOs; White, 22-2, 18 KOs

Rafael's remark: At a time when the notion of an American heavyweight prospect is an alien concept, Mitchell, of Brandywine, Md., has promise. The former Michigan linebacker came late to boxing, so even though he is 27, he's very much in the learning stage of his career after just a handful of amateur fights. But at 6-foot-2, 241 pounds, Mitchell, who turned pro in 2008, has good size and a desire to learn. He also has a reputation as a hard worker in the gym and fights in a pleasing style. So maybe his efforts will pay off and he'll become a contender in a division desperate for a fresh American face. He certainly got some nice exposure in the "Friday Night Fights" opening bout and looked excellent destroying Louisiana's White, 25. Mitchell dropped him in the first round, cut him and then finished him in the second round. It was a quick and explosive performance -- just like we want to see from heavyweights -- but he did what he was supposed to do. Even though White has a great record, he's terrible. The first time he fought anyone with a pulse, Dominick Guinn smashed him in the first round in April 2009. White's record is glossy because his opponents have been the dregs of the sport, guys with records like 5-27, 6-32, 6-10, 2-9, 7-35 and 9-34-2. So on the one hand, let's give Mitchell, one of Golden Boy's and manager Shelly Finkel's projects, credit for looking great (nice jab, keeps his hands up nicely, doesn't waste a lot of punches, etc. …). On the other hand, let's keep things in perspective because he fought a guy who was there to make him look that good. That said, more televised Mitchell fights would be a good thing.

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Friday at Albuquerque, N.M. ​

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Heavyweight
Seth Mitchell TKO2 Johnnie White

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Junior welterweight Danny Garcia TKO7 Chris Fernandez ​

Records: Garcia, 17-0, 11 KOs; Fernandez, 18-10-1, 10 KOs

Rafael's remark: Garcia has been put on the fast track by Golden Boy Promotions and manager Shelly Finkel since turning pro in late 2007 after a standout amateur career in which he won a 2006 U.S. national title and made it to the Olympic trials finals but just missed out on making the 2008 U.S. team. But while Garcia is a good-looking prospect, he still has work to do, particularly on defense. That's OK, though, because he's only 22 and slowly stepping up his level of competition. Fighting in his hometown for only the second time, Garcia headlined on Telefutura's "Solo Boxeo Tecate" and pounded on Salt Lake City's Fernandez. Garcia badly rocked him with a big overhand right in the third round, opened a cut under his right eye in the fourth round and generally pounded on him throughout the fight. In the seventh round, he was rocking him some more, especially with right hands, until Fernandez's corner had seen enough and threw in the towel, forcing referee Steve Smoger to stop the one-sided fight at 1 minute, 18 seconds of the seventh round. Fernandez, 34, was a very experienced opponent, having faced such notable fighters as Paulie Malignaggi and Devon Alexander, but he also has now lost three in a row and five of his past seven bouts.

Records: Dargan, 8-0, 4 KOs; Ruiz, 7-12-1, 1 KOs

Rafael's remark: Philadelphia's Dargan, 24, who was a standout amateur before turning pro in late 2007, trained for the fight alongside Shane Mosley as he prepared for his showdown with Floyd Mayweather Jr. on May 1. Dargan was one of Mosley's sparring partners, and they share the same trainer, Naazim Richardson, who is Dargan's cousin. Dargan was well prepared as he dominated Miami's Ruiz, 29. Dargan dropped him four times -- twice in the second round (although the first one was highly questionable) and once in the third, and finished him with another in the fourth.

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Friday at Philadelphia​

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Lightweight
Karl Dargan KO5 Jorge Ruiz
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[proshares]

A good amount of title fights this weekend, solid upcoming weekend.

 

[jking0821]

Did anyone in here see the Williams vs Cintron fight. I was mad excited for it i am one of the few Paul Williams fans out there and love his fights.

Apparently HBO is pulling the clip of the fight offline? I personally thought A. Cintron just gave up and didn't want to fight or B. The fight was fixed. I can't believe they are not making a big deal out of this. The man dove out of the ring and just laid there. He is a trained athlete! You're telling me he couldn't withstand that fall.

FIXED

 

[bigmike23]

According to trainer Freddie Roach, who is in New York with WBA junior welterweight champion Amir Khan, negotiations for a Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight is expected to begin this week. Roach told reporters the negotiations could begin as early as Tuesday once the elections in the Philippines, where Pacquiao is running for a congressional seat, are completed.

Roach told BoxingScene.com's Lem Satterfield on Sunday that Mayweather is the opponent of choice, but he doesn't have any problems with facing the Plan B opponent Antonio Margarito.

The biggest issue in making the fight is Mayweather's demand for random Olympic-style drug tests. The last time they tried to make a deal, earlier this year, the two fighters could not agree on the cut-off date for tests.  

Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum of Top Rank said earlier today that Manny's political run will not effect his return to the ring. Arum told a radio show in the Philippines that Pacquiao will return in November against Mayweather or Margarito.

 

[dako akong otin]

[h1]And The NEEEWWW Congressman From Sarangani Province, Manny Pacquiao![/h1]
By Michael Woods

Picture Michael Buffer saying this....

And NEW congressman from Sarangani Province, Manny Pacquiao!

TSS doesn't want to get all Dewey-Truman on you, but it looks like Pacman will conquer a new arena, the political one, with a victory over for Roy Chiongbian. Monday's election has Pacqauio, age 31, looking like a runaway winner, by a 3-to-1 or 2-to-1 margin, for the Philippine House of Congress. The polls are closed, as the time zone in the Philippines is 12 hours ahead of the Eastern (US) Time Zone. So...it's all over but the counting. One must point out, that only in politics, are folks more nervous as they await results than in boxing. Judges are prone to screwups in the sweet science, and as we all learned in the 2000 Presidential runoff, voting machines, and paper ballots,  can be manipulated. 

When Pacman announced his run, naysayers pointed out that Chiongbian's dad actually created the province, in 1992, and his mother was the Governor of Sarangani, while the family controls vast business interests, and an entrenched political machine which wouldn't be easy to best. So, a victory would be considered if not a shock, then a heady message as to the sway of the pugilistic icon.

There were accounts of disruptions at more than 80 polling places, including bombings, shootouts, kidnappings and the destruction of voting machines. There are approximately 223,000 voters in the province, and turnout looked to be considerable.
Promoter Bob Arum is with Manny, awaiting word on the final tally. He has indicated he's psyched for a Manny win, but reality must intrude. It isn't easy serving so many masters, and the people of the province will be tugging hard on Pacquiao if he wins. Serving God, his family, boxing, and the expectations of the people will not be easy. One wonders--will this foray into politics be a seed for his downfall? Could he simultaneously give enough of his sweat, blood and time to politics, while training to fight Floyd Mayweather, if Arum can get a deal done? Manny supposedly has to convince his mother Dionisia that a final bout, or a fight with Mayweather, makes sense at this juncture, so add that hurdle to the other bunch that Pacman must get over.

It must be noted--Congress in the Phillipines meets July 4th, for a session lasting thirty days or less. The President may call emergency sessions, special sessions, but the July term is the sole primary session in a calendar year. Meaning, Manny might be able to do the Congressional thing, and then turn his attention back to the fight game, in a semi seamless fashion..

 

[ag 47]

I'ma be pissed if Pacquiao %@@$% out and "retires" to do this congress thing...

 

[jagshemash]

Oh Kermit...

Doctor: Cintron Said He Couldn't Continue; Rematch Balk Posted by: Rick Reeno on 05-10-2010.

>>>Click Here For Tons of More Breaking Boxing News, Articles and Insider Information<<< By Rick Reeno The drama from last Saturday's junior middleweight contest between Paul Williams and Kermit Cintron is still going strong. Cintron, and his promoter Lou DiBella, plan to make good on their promise to file a petition with the California State Athletic Commission to reverse last Saturday's four round technical split-decision loss to Williams. The fight, which took place at the Home Depot Center in Carson, ended in the fourth round when during a clinch Williams tried to do a quick side maneuver to land a hook, which sent both fighters falling backwards. Williams fell on the canvas, while Cintron went through the ropes and landed on a ringside table. Cintron spoke with BoxingScene.com late Saturday night, and claimed the ringside physician would not allow him to continue. According to Cintron, he asked the doctor for a few minutes to catch his breath after the fall knocked the wind out of him - and the doctor, fearing that Cintron may have suffered a punctured lung, refused his request and stopped the contest. "When I went out of the ring. I hit the corner of something on my right lower back and it took my breath away. I couldn't catch my breath for about a minute. [The doctor] kept telling me the fight was over and 'let's take you to the hospital so we can check you.' I was fine after a minute. All I needed to do was catch my breath. The guy that was holding my head, he kept saying that I had a punctured lung. I said that 'seriously, I'm fine now, I want to continue the fight and don't take this fight away from me' and they took the f**king fight away from me," Cintron told BoxingScene.com. The doctor, Paul Wallace, is now defending himself. According to Wallace, Cintron was asked twice if he was able to continue and both times he replied "no." Wallace said he would have allowed the fight to restart if Cintron had indicated that he was capable of continuing. "I did say I wanted the fight stopped because the fighter twice said he could not continue He was asked, 'Can you continue?' and he said 'no.' Twice. If he had mentioned to me something like, 'Give me a moment ... ,' I understand; these are warriors. Any hint that he still wanted to participate we would've given that to him. We would have got him up and given him a second evaluation," Wallace told The LA Times. Once Wallace called the fight, he claims Cintron changed his mind and wanted the fight to continue. "[Cintron] did change his mind [and said] 'I want to fight, don't take the fight from me,'" Wallace said. Williams' promoter Dan Goossen is still in disbelief over how the fight played out. Pursuant to the governing rules of California, the fight was sent to the scorecards because three rounds had been completed. But Goossen told BoxingScene.com the fight should have been ruled as a technical knockout win for Williams - because there was no involvement of a foul, accidental or intentional. While Cintron wants to secure an immediate rematch, Goossen sees no reason for another fight to happen. If HBO is interested in a return bout, then Goossen and Team Williams will consider it, but otherwise they plan to move forward. "It's certainly not the way we wanted the fight to end. I thought Paul was coming on and getting back into his punisher style and then this happened, but the rules - and any rules - not just California rules and not just the unified rules - clearly state that if a fighter sustains an injury that is an accident, and is not an accidental foul or has anything to do with a foul, and the fighter can't continue - then everybody's rules say the same thing - the fighter who wasn't injured wins by TKO. It went to the decision but it should have been a TKO. No one likes a fight to end like this. No one walks away real happy but a W is a W," Goossen told BoxingScene.com. "I didn't see anything compelling in that fight to have rematch. Certainly if HBO was interested, we would take a look at anything in that regard. We came there to fight, that's what want we wanted to do. Rhe way it ended certainly wasn't satisfying for anyone and we move on from here."

 

[jagshemash]

Also, this Friday Shobox is going to start being presented in full HD (finally).

If anyone needs any HD fights from late '09 to the present, let me know.  I'm able to transfer the streams from my cablebox to my pc in full 1080i.

Here's a sample from the Mayweather-Mosley fight if anyone wants to check it out but keep in mind the files are huge...like 6gb an hour.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GZNCS9TZ

 

[scott frost]

I was fine after a minute. All I needed to do was catch my breath

.....people who have been shot been up quicker than Kermy