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Deng mentoring Ingram will be a great thing for his development though.
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b scott has been disqualified from sidelines
I think Beal can play all 82 as long as the Wizards keep him away from light and water and don't feed him after midnightBeal playing 50 games.Beal just needs to stay healthy and avg 20 a game
@ Mozgov and Deng on the downside of their careers being "solid" players.
You better than this P, Lakers woulda been better off not committing years.
Grizz winning the same amount of games Beal playingdid dude who bet someone his Grizz would win 50 games last season pay up? I remember seeing that in the thread last year
We'll find out if there are fourth year options or not.@ Mozgov and Deng on the downside of their careers being "solid" players.
You better than this P, Lakers woulda been better off not committing years.
exactly. Its the years. 3 year deals would have looked so much better. Would have gone from horrendous deals to not good deals.
he isnt b scottI honestly hope Luke isn't all for show, he seems like an interesting character would like to see him flourish
As long as the lakers will have room to keep their young guys long term and sign a few max players it's a fine move. If it keeps them from doing either of those it's a horrible move
It's not irrelevant you never know what could happen. It's fun to make jokes and what not but its still better to have space regardless over using it on players that get you bottom lottery picks and not to the playoffsThey have room for only one max player next summer I think
Which is kind of irrelevant if they dont start winning games.
I think the nba has made it loud and clear in regards to the lakers: were not playing for you unless you stop being a damn circus on the floor (kobe obviously had a lot to do with this along with byron and his man up chirade)
So the bottom line is you gotta try to win games while the youngsters develop. You need vets to do that. Luol for sure helps with this. We'll see about Timo.
If timo's knees arent shot and deng can give at least two out of four good years then the deal is fine to me
By feng'a fourth year the youngsters should be primed and able to really compete in the nba.
Over the course of the 4 years with timo and luol youre hoping that they along with the youngsters can contribute to winning. They have to start winning so they can land some gamechangers.
The money is a bit high but no one really good wants to play for lal without money and security, plus the market dictates what lal has to pay. Im sure they didnt go into the summer saying 72Ms for luol deng over 4 years is ideal but if they get an uptick in wins with him contributing over the next couple of years then its worth it
Love the that these Internet gm's assume "these simpleton's can't wrap their tiny brains around the cap going up" as if you needed to be tesla to understand teams can spend more and salaries areally going to increase. I think everyone fully understands it . It's still insane to think Mike Conley will be making twice as much as LeBron 2 years ago , regardless of the circumstances around it .
Exactly.
I was one of the main ones discussing how the cap changes would affect things, still doesn't mean the majority of these deals are not garbage with or without the jump.
Giving Conley, an undersized PG who's win share per 48 and TS% hasn't improved in 4 years, a full max doesn't make sense under any cap.
You know who Conley compares most to in terms of win share and all other stats at this point in their respective careers?
George Hill
Jose Calderon
Mike Bibby
I like Conley as a player but if I was Memphis I would have let him walk and started over rather than give him this deal.
He's just not a max player under any circumstance.
That Memphis team will lose in the 1st round next year. They just gave a combined 250 million dollars to a wing coming off microfracture surgery who hasn't improved in years and a PG who's undersized and hasn't improved since he turned 25 either.
One thing I will say is that Conley for sure makes Grizz better, they were +7.1 with him on the floor which is pretty elite. Then you look at the #'s and just realize that the team besides him and Marc is just not very good and that he basically always plays with Marc so that number is fools gold.
Parsons made Dallas literally 1 point better on offense and a bit worse on defense and they gave him 95 million, these are handicapping moves even under the new cap.
This man has had ithow is it insane? you worried about what players are making now compared to other 2 years ago?
wash ya face
that's the female in you worrying about other grown men making more money...stop watching wallets and watch the game...
the discussions in here should be about how new teams going to stack up, but all you dudes been *****ing and moaning about money as if its directly affecting you...
you still gotta punch the clock on tuesday whether or not conley get 130 mill...
wash ya face also
It's not irrelevant you never know what could happen. It's fun to make jokes and what not but its still better to have space regardless over using it on players that get you bottom lottery picks and not to the playoffs
As long as the lakers will have room to keep their young guys long term and sign a few max players it's a fine move. If it keeps them from doing either of those it's a horrible move
The lakers should be trying to get to the bottom of the lottery
They dont need anymore youngsters
Time to start being competitive
The lakers should be trying to get to the bottom of the lottery
They dont need anymore youngsters
Time to start being competitive
@ Moz ever being good again.
When is the last time a 30 year old 7'1 260+ pound center with 12 years of pro experience coming off a terrible season pleagued by injury returned to form?
It's not happening, that's a pipe dream.
I doubt he can even play starter minutes.
Deng's contract is bad but not as bad as Moz, he still probably has a year left of good basketball.
The bigger problem with him is that he ruins Randle's development which is idiotic considering they used a lottery pick on him and he shows great potential.