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[yeeupp]

Danilo Gallinari, during the presentation of the NBA Europe Live game between Armani Jeans Milano and New York Knicks, made a promise: 'I will play for Italy at Eurobasket in 2011'. Italy will play Qualification Round next summer but Gallinari won't play for the National Team because has a special program for the offseason that he must follow to keep the back strong and ready for the next NBA season. Sportando

 

[proshares]

That reminds me, I bought that Gallo T off the nbastore and it came yesterday. Pretty sick. Post up a pic later on.

 

[duba169]

straight up, I want to fight chris boussard. I want to meet him in a dark alley and beat him with a baseball bat. i've never hated a "journalist" more in my life.
I actually wish physical harm on him

he just said "if the knicks don't get lebron or wade which they probably won't they should trade for gilbert arenas"

even skip bayless said he was crazy

then to end the segment he said new york, new york city of dreams and just smiled.

 

[pr0phecy718]

Originally Posted by Spectacular23

lmao, yo, go to the bulls thread, them N's literally convince themselves they got Lebron tied on and that hes gonna be a bull,

screw what everyone is talking about in their threads...lets focus on whats going on with our team thread

My fellow team NYK fans stay united

 

[rko2004]

Originally Posted by DubA169

straight up, I want to fight chris boussard. I want to meet him in a dark alley and beat him with a baseball bat. i've never hated a "journalist" more in my life.
I actually wish physical harm on him

he just said "if the knicks don't get lebron or wade which they probably won't they should trade for gilbert arenas"

even skip bayless said he was crazy

then to end the segment he said new york, new york city of dreams and just smiled.

 

[duba169]

lol

the guy lives in New Jersey. he's gonna be heckled for all the crap he has been spewing. he should be tarred and feathered.

 

[live boy d]

Is this the NBA off season or the NY KNICKS offseason thread ? just asking because we have a few of chicago and whoever fans coming into our thread out of the wood werk bringing nothin but BS i mean is team nyk going into these other teams offseason threads and trolling ?

 

[pauliepeppas]

#%!* Broussard...guy had to get robbed or something in New York, he spews all this stuff but he's the one who left the great state of Ohio to take a job in the city. clown

 

[kn0wledgeable]

is stanley robinson coming out from uconn? i wouldnt mind the knicks picking him up in the second round.

 

[duba169]

magic thinks lebron is coming to the knicks. says we can make him a billionare and winning here would trump everywhere else. take it for what it's worth, which isn't much

http://www.nypost.com/p/s...m_tfZtmYakE1aDUb5hBcTkTK

 

[ehh]

^ I like any and all positive news but that article is from mid-December.  

 

[johnnyredstorm]

Wilson should have just gone to the same dude I go to by St. John's.

 

[sirius lee handsome]

I used to cop just east of where Wilson got bagged near Springfield Blvd. I'd just hop on the Clearview and be ghost.

 

[pr0phecy718]

smh @DubA169

 

[live boy d]

Mike Francesa is saying the nets will be named the "NEW YORK (blank)" when they move....

 

[proshares]

You still smoking Frank, I thought you woulda been stopped by now

 

[duba169]

GILBERT?! %*%%%#* GILBERT!????!?? i wanted to break my television

and apparently half of team knicks could have helped Wilson get some bud. no need for him to put himself at risk. you need to reach out to the fans wilson! i'll spark up!







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Reevaluating the Contenders

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This is a supplement to Basketball Prospectus' series previewing the NBA's 2010 free agency. Part one projected the future value of the top players on the market, part two compared the contenders to sign a max free agent and part three explored other ways those teams could use their cap space.

Since we last took a look at the top contenders in the summer of2010 free-agent derby in March, much has changed. It was always myintent to update that column after the NBA Draft Lottery, when we hadclarity about where several of these teams would pick. The timing alsoworks well because speculation about LeBron Jameschanging teams has reached a fever pitch following Cleveland's earlyexit from the playoffs. Lastly, the cap projection has grown moreoptimistic, giving several teams more flexibility.

The most important difference here, however, might be something thathas nothing to do with any of these teams but simply the way I'mevaluating them. As I introduced in my awards column, I'm moving toward an updated version of WARPthat credits three-point shooters for their ability to space the floor.While the transition is not complete, and will not be until next seasonat the very earliest, I thought it would be appropriate to redo theplayer projections using these new and improved ratings that bettervalue perimeter players relative to their interior counterparts.

As a reminder, the goal is this: Trying to put some data behind whatis by nature the very subjective question of what is the bestdestination for the superstars expected to become free agents thissummer (James most notable among the group, which also includes Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh)by rating the future prospects of the teams with space to sign a maxfree agent. Now, it's important to note that team quality is surelyjust one of many factors that will go into these players' decisions ofwhere to continue to career, but of them it's the only one we canreally quantify.

What this involves is a comprehensive valuation of all of a team'sassets--players, future draft picks and cap space. Think of this as anobjective version, if less comprehensive, of ESPN's future power rankings (Insider). Underlying this effort is the use of three-year WARP projections based on the 10 most similar players from our SCHOENE projection system. Draft picks were valued using the average performance of past players by pick number, and cap space is generally valued at 1 WARP for each $2.5 million of room, a figure based on the historic efficiency of the free-agent market.

Because we're interested primarily in comparing these teams as theylook to prospective free-agent additions, we were able to simplify afew assumptions. The value of the first $16.6 million in cap space foreach team--the amount projections indicate will be needed to sign aplayer to a max contract--is the same, and picks from 2011 and beyondwere projected with identical value (at the level of the 15th overallpick in the first round; second-round picks beyond 2010 do not have anyvalue above replacement level by this method).

We'll go in reverse order, and apologies to the Sacramento Kings, who are not included because I do not expect them to pursue a max free agent.

Washington Wizards

Player/Asset         10-11  11-12  12-13  Total-----------------------------------------------2010 Rd 1             2.9    5.0    7.3    15.2Andray Blatche        4.3    5.5    4.8    14.6Gilbert Arenas        6.2    3.9    3.2    13.3JaVale McGee          4.1    4.1    4.5    12.72011 Rd 1                    0.7    1.5     2.22010 Rd 1 (CLE)       0.2    0.6    1.0     1.72010 Rd 2             0.0    0.3    0.6     0.92012 Rd 1                           0.7     0.7Nick Young           -0.1    0.4    0.3     0.72011 Rd 2                    0.0    0.0     0.02012 Rd 2                    0.0    0.0     0.0Quinton Ross         -0.9    0.0    0.0    -0.9Al Thornton          -0.1   -1.2   -1.8    -3.1-----------------------------------------------Total               16.7    19.3   22.0    57.9

Winning the lottery more than doubled the value of the Wizards'first-round pick, and with John Wall (presumably) around Washington'slong-term future is bright. Still, it would take an awfully hopefulassessment of Wall's game to convince any of this year's marquee freeagents to sign with a team that has so many other question marks. TheWizards should continue to point toward future free-agent classes, whenthe sales job is easier because Wall is closer to superstardom andWashington has added another lottery pick.

Chicago Bulls

Player/Asset         10-11  11-12  12-13  Total-----------------------------------------------Derrick Rose          9.1   10.0    9.8    28.8Luol Deng             3.3    2.3    3.1     8.7Taj Gibson            3.0    2.7    0.7     6.4James Johnson         1.9    3.0    1.4     6.3Joakim Noah           3.4    1.7    1.1     6.3Kirk Hinrich          2.5    2.2    0.9     5.62010 Cap Space        1.5    1.5    1.5     4.52010 Rd 1 (MIL)       0.6    1.3    2.0     3.92011 Rd 1                    0.7    1.5     2.22012 Rd 1                           0.7     0.7-----------------------------------------------Total                25.3   25.4   22.9    73.6

In the last week, a loose consensus has developed that the Bullswould be the best destination for James if he wants to win and win big,so it should be a surprise they rank here, right? Well, yes and no. Yesto the extent that I think we can all agree this projection badly,badly underestimates Noah's value. He was worth 6.6 WARP this season and is entering his prime at age 25, so even a pessimistic guess would be somewhere closer to 18 WARPover the next three years. Why is Noah's projection so much lower? Justone of those flukes of using a small group to project, I suspect.Several more accomplished players were just outside the group of 10players most similar to Noah and many of the top 10 peaked early.

Still, even if we adjust Noah's value, Chicago still comes out as analso-ran among these teams. I think the last memory we were left withof the Bulls (playing Cleveland tough in the first round of theplayoffs) has overshadowed the fact that this was a .500 team--andworse than that after dealing John Salmons.Noah and Derrick Rose are two great pieces, but nobody else on theroster projects as even an average starter over the long run, andChicago will have few avenues to improve after using its cap space thissummer.

Cleveland Cavaliers

Player/Asset         10-11  11-12  12-13  Total-----------------------------------------------Maurice Williams      6.9    7.8    6.6    21.3Leon Powe             4.5    3.4    4.3    12.1Delonte West          2.5    2.9    2.1     7.5Antawn Jamison        2.7    2.3    1.4     6.5Anderson Varejao      1.8    2.3    2.1     6.22010 MLE              2.0    2.0    2.0     6.0Daniel Gibson         1.9    1.7    1.5     5.1J.J. Hickson          0.0    1.2    1.4     2.6Jamario Moon          1.0    0.8    0.6     2.42011 Rd 1                    0.7    1.5     2.2Sebastian Telfair     1.5                   1.52012 Rd 1                           0.7     0.72011 Rd 2                    0.0    0.0     0.02012 Rd 2                    0.0    0.0     0.0Anthony Parker        0.2   -0.4    0.0    -0.3-----------------------------------------------Total                25.1   24.7   24.1    73.9

On paper, there's little reason from a basketball standpoint thatJames should re-sign with the Cavaliers. If taken extremely literally,the projections suggest that a Cleveland team without James would missthe playoffs next year. Several key players, including newcomer AntawnJamison, are aging badly and SCHOENE isn't especially bullish on J.J.Hickson's prospects. Where I do think this underrates the option ofstaying with the Cavaliers is that owner Dan Gilbert has shown thewillingness to spend to put a quality team around James, and expiringcontracts (like Jamison's in 2011-12) can be used to upgrade theroster. Still, as the Jamison trade itself shows, those additions tendto be second-tier solutions, not marquee additions.

L.A. Clippers

Player/Asset         10-11  11-12  12-13  Total-----------------------------------------------Blake Griffin         9.3    9.8    9.1    28.2Eric Gordon           4.2    5.6    6.5    16.3Baron Davis           6.5    5.2    3.5    15.2DeAndre Jordan        3.6    3.8    3.9    11.2Chris Kaman           3.7    2.0    1.6     7.32010 Rd 1             1.2    2.3    3.4     6.92011 Rd 1                    0.7    1.5     2.22012 Rd 1                           0.7     0.72012 Rd 1 (MIN)                     0.7     0.72010 Rd 2 (NYK)      -0.1    0.2    0.5     0.62011 Rd 2                    0.0    0.0     0.02011 Rd 2 (DET)              0.0    0.0     0.02012 Rd 2                           0.0     0.0-----------------------------------------------Total                28.4   29.6   31.3    89.4

ESPN.com's excellent Kevin Arnovitz has already made the very reasonable case for why the Clippers might be the best destination for James in basketball terms. The existing talent on the L.A.roster rates better than any of the cores of the other teams withsignificant cap space. The Clippers are also the only team ready-madefor James, who could slide in at small forward without the need to signanyone else or make any other moves. (Chicago, for example, wouldsurely trade Luol Deng, while Devin Harris' skills might be too redundant with James' addition in New Jersey.)

Comparing the Clippers to Chicago, Blake Griffin (whose projectionsare based on his translated college stats) rates as just as valuable asRose, his predecessor as the No. 1 overall pick, while Eric Gordon isof similar value to Noah. I'd take the rest of the Clippers' rosterover the other Bulls, and L.A.has a superior first-round pick. Alas, because they are the Clippersand because of Donald Sterling's less-than-sterling reputation, theteam probably has no real shot at James.

Miami Heat

Player/Asset         10-11  11-12  12-13  Total-----------------------------------------------Dwyane Wade          14.5   13.5    9.3    37.3Mario Chalmers        5.5    6.3    6.9    18.8Michael Beasley       3.8    5.3    6.0    15.1Dorell Wright         3.0    3.3    4.9    11.22010 Rd 1             0.6    1.2    1.9     3.72010 Cap Space        1.0    1.0    1.0     3.0Daequan Cook          0.8    0.9    0.8     2.62011 Rd 1                    0.7    1.5     2.2Joel Anthony          0.9    0.4   -0.3     1.02012 Rd 1                           0.7     0.72010 Rd 2            -0.1    0.2    0.4     0.42010 Rd 2 (NO)        0.0    0.1    0.3     0.42010 Rd 2 (TOR)      -0.1    0.1    0.3     0.32012 Rd 2 (NO)        0.0    0.0    0.0     0.0-----------------------------------------------Total                30.0   33.0   33.8    96.8

For our purposes, we'll assume for the moment that the rest of theHeat's cap space will be used on re-signing Dwyane Wade. With thattaken for granted, there's a lot to like about Miami's future. Theplayers on hand should be good enough to continue to finish in one ofthe bottom four playoff spots in the East even without adding anothermax free agent. The upside is obvious. Worth noting: First, I carvedout a significant chunk of the Heat's leftover cap space with the ideaof re-signing Dorell Wright, who established himself as a quality wingthis season. If you'd rather assume that Miami will spend that money ona veteran, the expected value would be similar if not lower. Second,SCHOENE is much, much more optimistic about Chalmers' future than theHeat apparently is as an organization.

New Jersey Nets

Player/Asset         10-11  11-12  12-13  Total-----------------------------------------------Brook Lopez          10.4   10.5   11.1    32.0Devin Harris          7.0    4.8    4.5    16.42010 Cap Space        4.0    4.0    4.0    12.02010 Rd 1             2.0    3.6    5.2    10.8Yi Jianlian           1.9    3.6    2.6     8.0Kris Humphries        2.2    2.5    2.0     6.7Terrence Williams     0.9    1.6    1.4     3.9Courtney Lee          0.0    1.2    1.3     2.52011 Rd 1             0.0    0.7    1.5     2.22010 Rd 1 (DAL)       0.2    0.7    1.1     2.1C. Douglas-Roberts   -0.2    0.0    1.2     0.92012 Rd 1                           0.7     0.72011 Rd 2                    0.0    0.0     0.02012 Rd 2                           0.0     0.02012 Rd 2 (MIA)                     0.0     0.0-----------------------------------------------Total                28.5   33.2   36.6    98.3

When the Nets' logo came up third in the draft lottery, New Jerseylost its chance to became the "it" destination for free agents thissummer. Still, that's not the real reason the Nets no longer rate quiteas well as they did in March. The No. 3 pick represented just about theaverage of New Jersey's possible selections. In practice, even thoughthere appears to be a drop-off after the consensus top two playersavailable (Wall and Evan Turner), the Nets could fill a hole at powerforward by drafting Georgia Tech's Derrick Favors to complement BrookLopez in a talented young frontcourt.

No, the Nets' real problem is that they were one of the worst teamsin the league when it came to outside shooting, so several players tooka major hit with the new alternate WARP.New Jersey's future still appears very bright, especially with thechance to spend $10 million more in free agency even after signing amax player, but the Nets are no longer far and away the best option onpaper.

New York Knicks

Player/Asset         10-11  11-12  12-13  Total-----------------------------------------------Chris Bosh           12.4   10.3    7.7    30.4Danilo Gallinari      5.1    6.8    8.2    20.2Bill Walker           5.5    6.7    7.0    19.2Wilson Chandler       2.8    6.4    4.0    13.2Toney Douglas         4.0    4.8    3.3    12.22011 Cap Space               4.0    4.0     8.02010 Cap Space        1.0    1.0    1.0     3.02011 Rd 1 (HOU/NYK)          0.6    1.2     1.82010 Rd 2 (LAC)       0.0    0.3    0.5     0.72012 Rd 2                           0.0     0.0-----------------------------------------------Total                30.7   41.0   36.9   108.7

I promise this is not our attempt to be part of the "LeBron PleaseCome to New York" storyline that has cropped up recently (besides, ofcourse, evaluating other teams as part of New York Magazine's feature).We came by these numbers honestly, which is not to say I necessarilybelieve in them. The Knicks more than any other team benefited fromreassessing players and putting a premium on shooting, which was NewYork's lone offensive strength in 2009-10. Every returning player onthe roster shot plenty of threes, so our projections for them are muchmore favorable now. Toney Douglas, for example, was rated as anafterthought in March; now he looks like a potential starting pointguard. That's probably going a bit far, though certainly shooting takeson paramount importance when we're talking about playing alongside aplayer like James sure to draw double-team attention.

The most stunning projection of all belongs to Bill Walker. Going onWalker's hot shooting after the trade deadline (including 41.3 percentaccuracy on threes), SCHOENE compares Walker to Reggie Miller and Peja Stojakovic,among others. Needless to say, that is a bit of a stretch. Walker was anice pickup and should be a tremendous bargain thanks to hisnon-guaranteed minimum contract for 2010-11, but I'd temper those WARP projections quite a bit.

We've also given the Knicks the benefit of the doubt by using Boshto estimate their second max-contract spot. The projection dropsconsiderably if we replace Bosh with Amar'e Stoudemire or David Lee(though the latter might be more cost-effective). Even if New York isnot as dominant as it looks by this assessment, though, the numberssuggest that the Knicks are a better option for James than the cynicswould have you believe. Gallinari is a solid, though not spectacular,No. 2 option and there is some other talent on hand.

I like the graphical comparison of teams' assets because it reallygets at the heart of this concept--considering all the different ways ateam can create wins in the future. The Clippers and the Nets havealready amassed quality talent and have draft picks on the way, butMiami and New York make up for it with their ability to add a secondmax free agent. Which is better? I think you could make an argument forany of the top four teams, as well as Chicago and possibly evenCleveland.

I wish there was a tidier conclusion to offer here, but there arestill important takeaways. The hype around the Bulls may be somewhatpremature, and if James does end up signing in New York, it's notnecessarily just for marketing purposes or the notion of winning overthe fans at Madison Square Garden. There's a basketball argument to bemade for the Knicks as well.

Kevin Pelton is an author of Basketball Prospectus.You can contact Kevin by clicking here or click here to see Kevin's other articles.

 

[duba169]

Osi is still mega salty






Umenyiora to LeBron: Stay in Cleveland


By Ohm Youngmisuk
ESPNNewYork.com
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Osi Umenyiora has some advice for LeBron James -- stay right where you are.

The Giants defensive end chimed in on the impending LBJ free agency sweepstakes and said the glare of the spotlight in New York can be a harsh and painful one for stars to play under.

"I know New York would love to have him and I'm sure Knicks fans hope he comes," Umenyiora wrote on his PlaymakerMobile.com blog on Wednesday. "Personally, I think he should stay in Cleveland. They need him and he's a Cleveland guy. It would be great to have him in New York but I think he should stay there. Ultimately, he has to make the decision that's best for him and his family."

Umenyiora explained that there's nothing quite like winning in New York City. The defensive end should know after enjoying a Super Bowl parade after the Giants won it all during the 2007 season.

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But Umenyiora knows how quickly things can sour. The Giants went 8-8 last season and missed the postseason after a 5-0 start. And Umenyiora lost his starting job while trying to come back from knee surgery.

This offseason, Umenyiora told reporters at the Super Bowl that he'd rather retire if he doesn't start again this season. He then heard all the speculation that he was going to be traded prior to the draft and then thought he would be dealt after the Giants used the 15th overall pick on another defensive end in Jason Pierre-Paul.

Umenyiora, though, wasn't traded and he blogged earlier this week that he is committed to helping the Giants win. He said he didn't understand "what all the fuss has been about with me."

"I think people have been looking for me to do something to cause dissension, but that's not happening," Umenyiora blogged on Monday.

Umenyiora knows what he has gone through is nothing compared to what James will experience should he become a Knick. He warned James what will be in store for him should he leave his cozy home in Cleveland for the biggest basketball stage in the world and fail to deliver with the enormous expectations of being New York's basketball savior.

"I will say this, if he does come to New York, don't have a bad game," Umenyiora blogged. "Not one because Knicks fans will come down on him. There is no better place to be when you're winning than New York. And there's no better place to be than New York, it's a great city with great energy. But it does go both ways. When you lose, it's tough."

Ohm Youngmisuk covers the Giants for ESPNNewYork.com. Follow him on Twitter.

 

[nyelectric]

I didn't get to watch the lottery, but this is hilarious. I knew they wouldn't get the number one pick. Way to throw the season for no reason. How very Jersey of them.

Anyone that think she's going to the Nets is crazy. You think he wants to go from Cleveland to Newark? What the #*@! is the difference there? And that Brooklyn Stadium, if it ever gets built, which it obviously won't in two years, will be such a piece of crap no one will want it to be their legacy.

 

[ehh]

LOL @ Osi.  No wonder he played like *@%% this year, I didn't know he was so mentally soft.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

Originally Posted by SIRIUS LEE HANDSOME

I used to cop just east of where Wilson got bagged near Springfield Blvd. I'd just hop on the Clearview and be ghost.

You gotta be careful on the Cleaverview.  My cousin got booked going 120 by a cop that was hiding in the bushes.

And Bobby, I got nothing better to do 

I only smoke like two to three times a week, at the most, so it isn't all that bad.  Just one of the perks of being an aspiring writer in college

 

[duba169]

that brooklyn stadium will not be a piece of crap. The man has so much money that he doesn't know how much money he has.

 

[rashi]

So, David Lee is "bye bye"?

 

[nyelectric]

I don't think it's as simple as him having money. Ratner is trying to cheap out on the whole thing. Otherwise wouldn't they still be talking about Gehry? And not this guy:

 

[Bonafide]

Wilson gotta be smarter