ADOS

What strategy is this? Speeding towards a wall in hopes that it opens up when you're about to hit it?

You're not gonna vote and then what? Trump is gonna get four more years, create more Flints through the EPA's easing of environmental regulations, make the Civil Rights divisions of various federal departments less effective (or completely useless), get rid of programs that help those Black folks who depend on them, and at the end of his second term, hand you over a polluted and sterile land while he and his billionaire buddies eat lab-grown meat and veggies in their million dollar bunkers.


https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/republican-voter-suppression-713557/



Read and learn. You are barking at the wrong tree.


I wish this post and the article within were actually read by certain folks in this thread. Here go your "tangibles".
 
It's no way to have real convo's when dudes get defensive and hurt when you criticize a certain political party.
You're not trying to have a conversation. You're the one who's butt hurt because those who don't buy your position can explain why and you can't counter them. So you either sidestep the discussion, or you invent narratives to give your position some weight like the example below:
Like I said we get. We you defended Bill and Hillary for their BS when it was time to vote for her. Now you tryna explain and dress up Robert Bird and the Virginia governors racism. Tryna say the NAACP vouched for Robert Bird. We got it. :lol:

Nobody defended either the Virginia governor or Robert Bird.
You have constantly ignored that there were racists in the Democratic party who remained in there because they prioritized its left-wing policies over their feelings for minorities. You stay posting strawmen instead of answering the questions that are asked, such as:

"how do you plan on achieving the goal of reparations by giving more power to the GOP, considering that encouraging more people to not vote will result in GOP victories, and not the pause to the electoral process you think will happen?"
 
Wait the political strategy is to just withhold the vote until someone just up and chooses to meet all the demands out of the goodness of their heart?
You and gry60 gry60 had two on the best comments on this issue.

You when you said that if your enemy is fine with your course of action, then maybe you should rethink it.

And gry60 when he said dudes don't want change they want a benevolent Santa Claus

There are lot of parallels between the DSA and ADOS. The DSA has had a lot of progress moving the party toward them. Instead of looking at them and trying to replicate their success, dudes want to try something that goes against all political sense.
 
You're not trying to have a conversation. You're the one who's butt hurt because those who don't buy your position can explain why and you can't counter them. So you either sidestep the discussion, or you invent narratives to give your position some weight like the example below:


Nobody defended either the Virginia governor or Robert Bird.
You have constantly ignored that there were racists in the Democratic party who remained in there because they prioritized its left-wing policies over their feelings for minorities. You stay posting strawmen instead of answering the questions that are asked, such as:

"how do you plan on achieving the goal of reparations by giving more power to the GOP, considering that encouraging more people to not vote will result in GOP victories, and not the pause to the electoral process you think will happen?"
I do not care if you "buy" into anything I'm saying. :lol:


That's the thing. Y'all ride or die democrat boys are the ones that keep tryna convert people like annoying *** Jehovah's witnesses.
 
I do not care if you "buy" into anything I'm saying. :lol:


That's the thing. Y'all ride or die democrat boys are the ones that keep tryna convert people like annoying *** Jehovah's witnesses.

I'd rather be a democrat boy than a white supremacist.
 
If you dudes are so mad about people saying the Dems are the only reasonable choice on the ballot, why is it I never here you all talk about proportional representation, or rank choice voting, or 50% +1 presidential elections.

I would think dude complaining about both sides would have an interest into making the electoral system more open to alternative parties and independents.
 
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If you dudes are so mad about people saying the Dems are the only reasonable choice on the ballot, why is it I never here you all talk about proportional representation, or rank choice voting, of 50% +1 presidential elections.

I would think dude complaining about both sides would have an interest into making the electoral system more open to alternative parties and independents.

It's almost as if he has an exceedingly shallow understanding of civics, the political process, and black history!
 
Ok. That's a low bar to hold yourself to. :lol:

and history has shown us Democrats can be WS too. Directly and affiliated with them.

You didn't get it.

https://www.theroot.com/cheaters-never-win-except-when-republicans-suppress-1829804891

You wanna know why I left the Republican Party as it exists today? Here it is; this was the last straw: I was in the closed Senate Republican Caucus when the final round of multiple Voter ID bills were being discussed. A handful of the GOP Senators were giddy about the ramifications and literally singled out the prospects of suppressing minority and college voters. Think about that for a minute. Elected officials planning and happy to help deny a fellow American’s constitutional right to vote in order to increase their own chances to hang onto power.” - Todd Allbaugh

Changing the rules
In 2008, county councilman Ernest Montgomery prepared to run for reelection in the tiny town of Calera, Alabama. But the city decided to redraw its voting districts and add thousands of white voters to the traditionally black part of town represented by Montgomery, the city’s only black councilman.

The county allowed Calera to add these white voters without having them reviewed by the Justice Department, even though the county was one of the places with such a long history of discrimination against black voters the Voting Rights Act of 1965 required federal approval before changing any voting rules.

Montgomery lost the election, but Barack Obama’s Justice Department demanded that Calera hold a new election. Calera didn’t want to do it, but a federal court upheld the Justice Department’s decision. Montgomery eventually won his seat, which he still holds. But the white people in Shelby County were so upset they decided to take Attorney General Eric Holder to the Supreme Court—and eventually won.

That’s how Shelby County v Eric Holder decimated the Voting Rights Act of 1965.

For years, on the Sunday before each election, black churches in Cleveland, Ohio, would load their congregations onto buses and head to the polls to vote. Even though its population is 28 percent black, 56 percent of Cuyahoga County’s weekend voters in the 2008 election were black. Early voting was a big strategy in Obama’s 2008 election and helped elect the first black president.

Ohio made sure that would never happen again.

Early voting and extended voting hours are important to black voters because African Americans are twice as likely to work jobs that pay hourly wages. Waiting in line to vote literally costs black voters. Yet, states such as Ohio and Nebraska have reduced the days and hours citizens are allowed to vote.

In the 2016 Elections, black people waited an average of 16 minutes to vote, while white voters waited less than 10 minutes, according to a Massachusetts Institute of Technology voter survey. Georgia is currently trying to force Atlanta to close its polls an hour early on election day because ... you know ... that’s where the blacks vote. And in North Carolina, a federal court found that cuts to the state’s early voting hours were part of a Republican effort to intentionally decreased black turnout

Voter Purges
In 2014, a rat chewed through wires at the Hancock County, Ga., courthouse, sparking a fire that destroyed the voter rolls, including the rolls for Sparta, Ga., which is 86 percent black. Hancock County officials began rebuilding its list of eligible voters—but only the white ones.

The all-white county board of elections challenged and purged 187 of the 1,100 registered voters. Most of the 187 voters purged were black. Some of them were purged because their voter registration didn’t match the state databases. Others were thrown off voter rolls because of “third-party challenges,” the practice of private citizens saying that a person no longer lives in the voting district.

Nine of the 10 states where felons can permanently lose their voting rights are under trifecta Republican control (state house, state senate, and governor). Many of those states have slim Republican majorities. In Florida, Real Clear Politics has Democratic nominee Andrew Gillum leading Republican Ron DeSantis by 3.7 points. Trump won the state in 2016 by less than two points.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...urt-strikes-down-north-carolinas-voter-id-law
A federal appeals court has overturned North Carolina's sweeping voter ID law, ruling that the law was passed with "discriminatory intent" and was designed to impose barriers to block African-Americans from voting.

I hope Tariq's message spreads far and wide. Pretty soon, Massa won't have to work so hard to keep Black voices from being heard. :lol:
 
White supremists and Democrats are not mutually exclusive. A Venn diagram may be required to illustrate this point to self appointed nt political experts.

Ados are awakening and realizing that Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin. Both are complicit in maintaining an evil system where the barometer of justice varies depending on the pigment of your skin. While one brand’s behavior may be exceedingly brazen in comparison, don’t be lulled asleep by the passive aggressive, patronizing ways of the other.

Ados remain steadfast in your ideals. Vote for a candidate that meets specifics for you and yours. Don’t just cast away your vote for tradition or fear, there is power into holding on to it. When a certain party that promises tangibles to specialized groups including transsexuals and non-citizens dismissively tell Ados that they can’t just single them out for upliftment realize that 85 percent of us won’t just give it away are votes, they will have to come back to the table with more. This is a marathon not a sprint. We have been exceedingly patient for 400+ years. We are playing the long game, knowing a 2020 democratic bandaid over a chasm is insufficient to ailing the ills of our community.

Be cognizant of self proclaimed allies of the Ados movement, many from the diaspora, our brothers and sisters from the islands and the motherland. They may take up our mantle, but understand that ultimately the nature of one’s own preservation will come in conflict with Ados optimum goal. So while you will feel comfortable with 4 more years of 45 because the first 2 have been no worse than any, they won’t because of the consequences their own may suffer. Then you will understand the motivation behind them being overly critical of you exercising political savviness by exchanging your vote for tangibles. You holding on to your vote is a threat to their quality of life. Don’t be shamed or offended by the character attacks. I myself have been accused of co-opting the Ados movement by a black immigrant on this site for demanding monetary compensation as part of the reparations needed to make my people whole again. When shown that this is indeed an item on the black agenda at Ados101.com, crickets ensued.

Stay coded up Ados brethren. The powers that be are taking notice, as we went from being considered a fringe movement of Russian bots to forcing presidential candidates to address our questions and concerns in a short 3 weeks. Things won’t change if we en masse resume to our old habits of blindly supporting the Democrats at the polls. Continue holding them accountable and as always, no tangibles, no vote.
 
Tariq be sounding like Trump when he rants about how black people shouldn't support immigrants and the LGBT lmao

because ADOS shares anti immigration policies as da immigration restrictionist wing of Republicans advocate for.

newsflash, this ADOS movement isn't some flash in da pan fly by night endeavor...go to da Coli, place is filled to da brim with advocates in da root sections.

im GLAAAAD certain non hispanic immgrants folks gettin that fresh slap in da face of da ADOS awareness...cuz ya finally seeing what us hispanic/asian immigrants already knew about hostility towards immigration laws.
 
Ok. That's a low bar to hold yourself to. :lol:

and history has shown us Democrats can be WS too.

too? lol they created da KKK....

thats like sayin "black people can make rock too"

certain people advocating da submission of your will exclusively to one party because of historical laws passed that behooves them never take da time to explain that those laws were intended to strategically enslave da demographic politically to that party (Lyndon B Johnson was a über racist).

stay independent. your political trappings should be dictated by what a political party does for you issue by issue.
 
I accused you of co-opting the message because of your hostility toward black immigrants. So spare us the victim act.
 
too? lol they created da KKK....

thats like sayin "black people can make rock too"

certain people advocating da submission of your will exclusively to one party because of historical laws passed that behooves them never take da time to explain that those laws were intended to strategically enslave da demographic politically to that party (Lyndon B Johnson was a über racist).

stay independent. your political trappings should be dictated by what a political party does for you issue by issue.
I posted examples of the GOP actively suppressing Black folks' 1st amendment right at the ballot box. If both parties are the same, show me how the Democratic party pursues the same goal of disenfranchising Black voters.

You, Maximus Meridius Maximus Meridius , and largofool largofool are arguing in bad faith. You keep assuming that those who support Democrats are saying they are perfect when that is not the position being presented.

What is being said is this: two political entities can make things happen in Congress, and you **** on the one that can push your cause forward while the other actively tries to make your issues disappear from public discourse. What do you plan to do to make things happen?

Not participate? The GOP doesn't want you to participate
(which is why I called the reactionaries in this thread White Supremacists).

The one that includes you in their platform can simply ignore your problems if they figure out it is useless to fight for you.

Then what?


largofool largofool You keep talking about those "4 more years of Trump that will be detrimental to Black immigrants."

I'll tell you that most Black immigrants come here with a previous education (you actually need at least a high school diploma to be able to apply for a visa, immigrant or not. Even winning the Green Card lottery isn't an exception to that rule). They already have experience, most are religious (and socially conservative), believe in the "hard work/trickle down/low taxes" right-wing policy trifecta that has wrecked havoc on the American middle class because they grew up under the same austerity policies in their countries and "made it" there. Many of them would love nothing more than see the remaining American jobs be shipped to their countries where they can do it cheaper than American workers. In their countries, they beat, maim, or burn criminals to death and people cheer. Consequently, many respond positively to Republican claims that Democrats are soft on crime.

Those who come here to go to school and end up settling have paid at least twice as much as American students (just in terms of tuition), with limited access to financial help and job opportunities while they are in school. In fact, they only qualify for merit-based scholarships, and can only work full-time at the end of their studies for a maximum of 18 months. They are restricted to 20 hrs/week of on-campus jobs available to them after their second year of college (and students on work-study programs have priority over foreign students). Then, there is the entire work-visa-to-permanent-residency journey that is costly as ****. They have money to pay for school, and many don't care much about Black issues. Actually, many of them find it unfair that some Americans get financial help based on their racial background.

The Black immigrant experience, along with the principles they have been brought up with make them more likely to support right-wing policies. You will find more Trump voters among Black Americans that recently immigrated than among Black Americans who have been here since the early 20th century and before.

They won't be hurt that much by Trump's policies because they can pick up their stuff and leave if life becomes too difficult for Black people in America. Many have homes in their home countries that they have built or have inherited.

Do you have that option?

Be careful what you wish for.
 
I gotta spoonfeed y'all like children cuz I hate what this thread has turned into. Too much ignorance being passed for "analysis in here". Read these posts and click and download those links.

M Mark Antony Maximus Meridius Maximus Meridius
Derrick Bell's Interest Convergence
https://ufile.io/hkajl
https://ufile.io/9s1h5

I made an error. It wasn't Harold Cruse I was referring to, it was Harry Haywood. But the idea isn't new.

Harry Haywood
https://ufile.io/6eb96
https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/black-belt-republic-1928-1934/

Some history on reparations
Callie House:
https://ufile.io/oljan
https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/callie-house-c-1861-1928/

Estimating the cost of Reparations and the discourse surrounding it:
https://ufile.io/ns98y
https://ufile.io/j8hgd
https://ufile.io/6ymll
https://ufile.io/1p4rx

Books:

Capitalism and Slavery by Eric Williams
https://b-ok.xyz/book/852465/91d51c

Pages from a Black Radicals Notebook by James Boggs
https://b-ok.xyz/book/2550146/1eb388

Long Overdue: The Politics of Racial Reparations
https://b-ok.cc/book/859793/3e3fc0

The Half That Has Never Been Told: Slavery and the Making of American Capitalism
https://b-ok.cc/book/2378661/46c016

The Price Of the ticket: Barack Obama and The Rise and decline of Black Politics
https://b-ok.cc/book/2646811/9ff063

Knocking The Hustle: Against The Neo-liberal Turn in Black Politics
https://b-ok.cc/book/2707605/5cfc69

Bloomberg's New York: Class and Governance in the Luxury City
https://b-ok.cc/book/1204759/1b8a49

This getting long so I'll stop here. READ!!!! READ!!! READ!!!

Reconstruction is one of the most vastly understudied eras of American history. So much of what is going on right now politically mirrors that era when African Americans were coming out of slavery and the civil war and fighting for their humanity to be recognized by the state. This was the era where America could've truly changed in a major way when it came to reparations, public education, land rights, Human rights etc but whites listened to the siren call of segregation and Jim Crow. Here are some good reading materials to look at and reflect on. First, Here is some background information on what Reconstruction was:



1867 Reconstruction Acts
https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/1867-reconstruction-acts/

Reconstruction Amendments
https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/reconstruction-amendments/

The Other ’68: Black Power During Reconstruction

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By Adam Sanchez

From the urban rebellions to the salute at the Olympics, commemorations of 1968 — a pivotal year of Black Power — have appeared in news headlines throughout this anniversary year. Yet 2018 also marks the 150th anniversary of 1868 — the height of Black Power during Reconstruction.

It’s not surprising this anniversary has been ignored. Reconstruction is given short shrift in classrooms across the country and history textbooks tend to focus their narrative on the battles between the president and Congress. The year 1868 comes up in textbooks as significant only because of the election of Ulysses S. Grant. This focus on those at the top, misses the groundswell of activity that made the year so explosive.

We lost one of the few historians who wrote about the importance of 1868 earlier this year. Lerone Bennett Jr., historian, journalist, and editor at Ebony magazine for decades, died this February at the age of 89. His book on Reconstruction, Black Power U.S.A., remains one of the most powerful and engaging texts on the era.

Bennett calls 1868 “The Glory Year”:

In the North, in this year, there was wild talk of using troops to forcibly dissolve Congress and arrest its leaders; and in the South thousands on thousands of angry Black people thronged the dusty roads, shouting defiance and demanding a division of the loaves and fishes. This was the year of the 14th Amendment; this was the year men made the Declaration of Independence walk in the streets; this was the year almost all things were made new…. During the whole of this pivotal year, the South vibrated with the impassioned sounds of extraordinary assemblages of Blacks, native whites, and Northern newcomers.

It was in 1868, in state after state, when Black men, many of them formerly enslaved, gathered with white men, many of them poor and disempowered until Reconstruction, to rewrite the constitutions of the South.

In the early years following the Civil War, however, far from having the power to reshape the basic law of the land, for many Blacks it seemed as if freedom would not be that different from slavery. After Lincoln’s assassination, President Johnson pardoned former slaveowners, returning land to them that had been confiscated and given to freedpeople, and laid out extremely lenient requirements for Southern states to rejoin the union.

Johnson’s actions gave a green light to white planters who led violent campaigns to intimidate freedpeople back into submission. Southern states passed new laws known as Black Codes, aimed at imposing slavery by another name. For example, Mississippi demanded that freedpeople carry proof they had entered into a labor contract or they could be imprisoned. The law also forbade African Americans from renting or leasing land. In South Carolina, Blacks unwilling to be farm workers had to get special permission from a court.

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But throughout the South, Black people refused to go back. They organized into Union Leagues, defending each other from white attacks and organizing boycotts and strikes to prevent plantation owners from imposing slavery-like conditions. They organized Black political conventions across the South to demand the right to vote, schools, fair wages, and land. They marched, protested, and flooded Congress with petitions and resolutions. Their efforts were successful.

When Congress convened in 1866, they refused to seat the delegates — many of them former Confederates — from Johnson’s state governments. Instead they came up with their own Reconstruction plan requiring states to hold new conventions to rewrite state constitutions and adopt the 14th Amendment declaring Black people citizens whose rights could not be violated by laws like the Black Codes.

By the time the new voter registration process was completed, Blacks were a majority of the registered voters in Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Louisiana, and Georgia. In South Carolina, there were nearly two Blacks registered for every white person. In every other Southern state, they held sizable and influential minorities.

Starting in Alabama in November of 1867 and ending with Texas that opened its convention in June of 1868, multiracial assemblies met in Southern state capitol buildings — most built by the labor of the enslaved — to radically alter the political and economic landscape.

As Bennett points out,

Here were no middle-class lawyers and businessmen speaking for the people. Here, for the first and last time in America, was an assemblage of people, many of them poor, speaking for themselves…. Although experienced men, some of them lawyers and former legislators, moved to the fore in many places, there was, in every state convention, an articulate core of common people who spoke with uncommon authority, not because they had conferred with the people, but because they were the people.

In the name of the people these delegates fought to make Southern constitutions reflect social and economic justice. The Mississippi state convention passed a tax for the relief of needy freedmen and a resolution that would have returned property taken from freedmen if it hadn’t been vetoed by the general controlling the state. In Alabama, a resolution passed that allowed freedmen to collect $10 a month in back pay from former masters for any work completed after January 1, 1863, when the Emancipation Proclamation took effect.

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In South Carolina, the only state where Blacks made up a majority of the delegates, the convention passed a resolution asking Congress to lend the state $1 million to buy land for poor whites and Blacks. When Congress rejected the proposal, the first South Carolina legislature under the new constitution passed a homestead law to aid poor farmers and shifted the tax burden to large plantation owners.

At a time when even most Northern states restricted the franchise to white men, every convention extended suffrage to Black men and a few delegates, like W. J. Whipper in South Carolina and Thomas Bayne in Virginia, pushed to extend the franchise to women as well. Several conventions expanded women’s property rights and in South Carolina legalized divorce.

Also unlike the Northern constitutions, the South’s new laws protected Black civil rights. Blacks could now hold office, serve on juries, and several constitutions explicitly banned the kind of discrimination that would later characterize the Jim Crow South.

The Reconstruction conventions provided for the first tax-supported public schools throughout the South. A few states even mandated integration. Louisiana’s constitution, for example, provided for free public education for “all children between 6 and 21 years of age” and emphasized that “there shall be no separate schools or institutions of learning established exclusively for any race.”

Yet none of these accomplishments is highlighted in today’s corporate textbooks. Glencoe’s American Journey, offers one line summing up these revolutionary conventions: “By 1868, seven Southern states — Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, North Carolina and South Carolina — had established new governments and met the requirements for readmission.” Even this is more than most textbooks allot. The texts that I’ve reviewed mention African Americans as beneficiaries of Congress’ benevolent policies, not as actors in securing their own liberation.

The history of this transformative year is worth resurrecting. Like in 1968, the achievements of the Black freedom struggle, inspired others to fight against their own oppression. 1868 was also the year that organizing pressured Congress to enact an eight-hour work day for federal employees. William Sylvis, who argued that Black and women workers should be welcomed into the white male labor movement, was elected president of the National Labor Union — the first national labor federation. Augusta Lewis formed the first female union, the Women’s Typographical Union in New York City, and made common cause with suffragists. Women’s rights advocates and abolitionists still worked together for universal suffrage in the American Equal Rights Association.

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The explosion of grassroots activism during 1868 offers teachers the opportunity to bring this democratic ferment into our classrooms. In a role play activity I wrote with the Zinn Education Project’s Nqobile Mthethwa, students take on the roles of Sylvis, Lewis, and others who fought for women’s and workers’ rights, as well as P. B. S. Pinchback, W. J. Whipper, and other key players in the 1868 conventions. As students “meet” these individuals, they learn about the revolutionary possibility of solidarity. They also learn how racism, sexism, and classism can divide movements with devastating consequences. The dissolution of these alliances helped pave the path for Reconstruction’s end.

Yet in 1868, what had seemed impossible only a decade before — four million enslaved people wielding political power in the South — became a reality. Black Southerners led a political revolution that for a short time advanced the interests of all poor and working-class people. The implications of this achievement are hard to grasp. In today’s deeply unequal society the typical U.S. Congress member — a majority of whom are millionaires — is at least 12 times richer than the ordinary U.S. citizen. How might society change if teachers, nurses, waiters, transportation and construction workers, and other working-class people rewrote the laws of the land? Recalling a time when the empowerment of the most oppressed in our society paved the way for other social struggles also gives weight to today’s slogan that all lives will matter only when Black lives matter.

1868 is a year we should remember and learn from.

https://www.zinnedproject.org/if-we-knew-our-history/black-power-during-reconstruction/
 
Read these books as well. If you can find em on PDF then cool, if not, buy em and spread the information.
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NATIONAL COALITION OF BLACKS FOR REPARATIONS IN AMERICA (N’COBRA)
The National Coalition of Blacks for Reparations in America (N’COBRA) is the premiere mass-based coalition of organizations and individuals organized for the sole purpose of obtaining reparations for African descendants in the United States.

N’COBRA’s founding meeting, September 26, 1987, was convened for the purpose of broadening the base of support for the long-standing reparations movement. N’COBRA has individual members, national and local organizational members and organizational affiliates. N’COBRA has chapters, members, affiliates, and supporters throughout the U. S. and in Africa, Europe, Central and South America and the Caribbean. N’COBRA is directed nationally by a board of directors. N’COBRA’s campaigns and work is organized through nine national commissions: Economic Development, Human Resources, Legal Strategies, Legislation, Information and Media, Membership and Organizational Development, International Affairs, Youth and Education and seven standing committees: Nomination , Executive, Conference, Fund Development, ASHE, National office and National Campaign(s). N’COBRA holds an annual national membership meeting and conference, usually held the fourth weekend in June, to conduct the business of the Coalition as well as to evaluate and introduce new campaigns and strategies.

https://www.ncobraonline.org/

This org has been doing this work for decades. Get involved and support them. Make sure you download the links and primers on that site as well. And as always.....

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