Are you the 99% ? - Wallstreet Come Get It...

[daytona 5000]

 

[throwedindagame]

Even as a banker, I must say this picture is powerful.

In the foreground you have OWS protesters....in the background you have a wall street investment bank.

Two diferent worlds juxtaposed.
  

 

[diceloveme]

Ksteezy looking real bad in here bruh.

 

[sillyputty]

Originally Posted by diceloveme

Ksteezy looking real bad in here bruh.

Man, whats new? 
Seriously, I don't even disagree with dude THAT much but its really that some of his arguments are full of so many fallacies at times I feel utterly compelled to respond...its like social contract theory to at least address misconceptions he holds yet touts as insurmountable fact...especially when it contradicts his entire and current state of being. 

Not saying we have to agree but damn man, allow some room for some PERSPECTIVE in your life. 

 

[omgitswes]

There's a pretty interesting article in the newest Forbes.
Had a billionaire who went undercover talked to the OWS protestors.

 

[the great hibachi]

Originally Posted by omgitswes

There's a pretty interesting article in the newest Forbes.
Had a billionaire who went undercover talked to the OWS protestors.

And?

 

[omgitswes]

Jeff Greene talks with OWS activist. Photo credit: Evan Kafka for Forbes

Occupy Wall Street has camped out in lower Manhattan for several weeks, railing against the top 1% of the country. So how does the apex of the pyramid regard this movement? We asked several Forbes 400 members to go undercover and visit the belly of the beast with us. Only one agreed: billionaire real estate investor Jeff Greene. An unsuccessful Democratic candidate in Florida for the U.S. Senate last year, he was as sympathetic to the protesters’ income inequality message as the .0004% could possibly be (he bicycled four miles to check out the protest on Monday afternoon). But even Greene was ­surprised by what he found down in Zuccotti Park. Here are his thoughts from the day:

Upon Arrival: To me Occupy Wall Street is symbolic. Nothing is going to come of this immediately, though I hope that it will help shape what’s to come. Right now it’s like a college sit-in, demonstrating middle-class frustration, but it could eventually lead to violence and that is the scary next step.

First Impressions: It looks like a street fair to me. If I had been dropped off not knowing what it was, that’s what I would think. People are buying cookies, musicians are singing, people are eating. I talk to people about what they are protesting, but they can’t say. If I had to guess, I’d say that 10% are protesters, 10% journalists, 10% musicians and 70% are tourists. I spoke to people from Switzerland and Israel. I expected thousands of people from what I had seen reported in the media. It was probably 50 to 100 ­people, many just lying around.

The Experience: No one knows who I am. But not one person has come up to me to discuss anything of note. If this were my demonstration, I’d be pulling people aside and trying to talk to them. To me it’s much ado about nothing. I thought there would be at least one or two booths of highly educated people with information and ideas of what should be done. I am not seeing anything intellectual coming out of this. Whether you are a capitalist or a socialist, there are smart people on both sides, but I don’t see any left-wing professors or anyone with specific ideas. They complained about the 1% versus the 99% and how the 1% rules government, and I said that it only takes 51% to put the person you want in office. The guy who claimed to be the press person for Occupy Wall Street talked about planting more farms. I told him I grow my own tomatoes, but this just isn’t the point.

Jeff Greene, the billionaire who agreed to visit Occupy Wall Street with me on Monday, is appearing on Your World With Cavuto on Fox this Thursday afternoon at 4:30 to talk about the Forbes story and his experience visiting protesters downtown.

Greene is a member of the 1%, but he was once part of the 99% (as were 68% of the Forbes 400 who made their own fortunes). He paid for Johns Hopkins U. working as a busboy at the Breakers Hotel in Palm Beach, teaching Hebrew School part-time and checking IDs outside a gym. He also traveled the country selling circus tickets in later years, and put himself through Harvard Business School. Last year he spent $24 million trying to win the democratic nomination for the Florida senate seat.

Though he lost the race, he is clearly still interested in the direction of this country and concerned about income inequality. Here are some of his additional remarks that didn’t make it into the magazine piece:

You can’t ignore people who are struggling. History has shown us that if you continue to empower the poor and desperate by not treating them well and not coming up with solutions to improve their lives, then it will end badly. That’s what happened in Egypt and Tunisia where the disenfranchised took the country.

I was once part of the 99%. I never thought I’d ever be part of the 1% but just the fact that I could try to achieve that was motivating. That’s what this country is about.

I see (Occupy Wall Street) as a small group of people that got an enormous amount of attention. I love that they are getting attention and bringing attention to the fact that the race to top and race to bottom for next generation leaves too many people behind…One guy talked about how we need a maximum wage, not a minimum wage; another guy said we should all just be allowed to own a few acres. If the movement finds a charismatic leader, it might actually lead to something. To me it is just a big wake up call. I lived in LA during the riots and that was really scary.
There was no anger today. It really was a show. There should be anger, not at Wall Street, but at the way the economy isn’t working for them. The solution is to get everyone educated and make everyone competitive and provide a minimum standard of living


Bolded part is exactly what I've been trying to say.

 

[curbyourenthusiasm]

Originally Posted by omgitswes

Jeff Greene talks with OWS activist. Photo credit: Evan Kafka for Forbes

Occupy Wall Street has camped out in lower Manhattan for several weeks, railing against the top 1% of the country. So how does the apex of the pyramid regard this movement? We asked several Forbes 400 members to go undercover and visit the belly of the beast with us. Only one agreed: billionaire real estate investor Jeff Greene. An unsuccessful Democratic candidate in Florida for the U.S. Senate last year, he was as sympathetic to the protesters’ income inequality message as the .0004% could possibly be (he bicycled four miles to check out the protest on Monday afternoon). But even Greene was ­surprised by what he found down in Zuccotti Park. Here are his thoughts from the day:

Upon Arrival: To me Occupy Wall Street is symbolic. Nothing is going to come of this immediately, though I hope that it will help shape what’s to come. Right now it’s like a college sit-in, demonstrating middle-class frustration, but it could eventually lead to violence and that is the scary next step.

First Impressions: It looks like a street fair to me. If I had been dropped off not knowing what it was, that’s what I would think. People are buying cookies, musicians are singing, people are eating. I talk to people about what they are protesting, but they can’t say. If I had to guess, I’d say that 10% are protesters, 10% journalists, 10% musicians and 70% are tourists. I spoke to people from Switzerland and Israel. I expected thousands of people from what I had seen reported in the media. It was probably 50 to 100 ­people, many just lying around.

The Experience: No one knows who I am. But not one person has come up to me to discuss anything of note. If this were my demonstration, I’d be pulling people aside and trying to talk to them. To me it’s much ado about nothing. I thought there would be at least one or two booths of highly educated people with information and ideas of what should be done. I am not seeing anything intellectual coming out of this. Whether you are a capitalist or a socialist, there are smart people on both sides, but I don’t see any left-wing professors or anyone with specific ideas. They complained about the 1% versus the 99% and how the 1% rules government, and I said that it only takes 51% to put the person you want in office. The guy who claimed to be the press person for Occupy Wall Street talked about planting more farms. I told him I grow my own tomatoes, but this just isn’t the point.

Jeff Greene, the billionaire who agreed to visit Occupy Wall Street with me on Monday, is appearing on Your World With Cavuto on Fox this Thursday afternoon at 4:30 to talk about the Forbes story and his experience visiting protesters downtown.

Greene is a member of the 1%, but he was once part of the 99% (as were 68% of the Forbes 400 who made their own fortunes). He paid for Johns Hopkins U. working as a busboy at the Breakers Hotel in Palm Beach, teaching Hebrew School part-time and checking IDs outside a gym. He also traveled the country selling circus tickets in later years, and put himself through Harvard Business School. Last year he spent $24 million trying to win the democratic nomination for the Florida senate seat.

Though he lost the race, he is clearly still interested in the direction of this country and concerned about income inequality. Here are some of his additional remarks that didn’t make it into the magazine piece:

You can’t ignore people who are struggling. History has shown us that if you continue to empower the poor and desperate by not treating them well and not coming up with solutions to improve their lives, then it will end badly. That’s what happened in Egypt and Tunisia where the disenfranchised took the country.

I was once part of the 99%. I never thought I’d ever be part of the 1% but just the fact that I could try to achieve that was motivating. That’s what this country is about.

I see (Occupy Wall Street) as a small group of people that got an enormous amount of attention. I love that they are getting attention and bringing attention to the fact that the race to top and race to bottom for next generation leaves too many people behind…One guy talked about how we need a maximum wage, not a minimum wage; another guy said we should all just be allowed to own a few acres. If the movement finds a charismatic leader, it might actually lead to something. To me it is just a big wake up call. I lived in LA during the riots and that was really scary.
There was no anger today. It really was a show. There should be anger, not at Wall Street, but at the way the economy isn’t working for them. The solution is to get everyone educated and make everyone competitive and provide a minimum standard of living


Bolded part is exactly what I've been trying to say.



enlarged for emphasis.
  

 

[omgitswes]

Yuppp def agree with that. It's proven itself true numerous times throughout history

 

[witnesskb24]

Good read with the billionaire, should be more like them.

LMAO at half of the thread being deleted, forgot NT is going for the G rating now

 

[rufiorufiorufio]

 

[knightngale]

Originally Posted by omgitswes

Jeff Greene talks with OWS activist. Photo credit: Evan Kafka for Forbes

Occupy Wall Street has camped out in lower Manhattan for several weeks, railing against the top 1% of the country. So how does the apex of the pyramid regard this movement? We asked several Forbes 400 members to go undercover and visit the belly of the beast with us. Only one agreed: billionaire real estate investor Jeff Greene. An unsuccessful Democratic candidate in Florida for the U.S. Senate last year, he was as sympathetic to the protesters’ income inequality message as the .0004% could possibly be (he bicycled four miles to check out the protest on Monday afternoon). But even Greene was ­surprised by what he found down in Zuccotti Park. Here are his thoughts from the day:

Upon Arrival: To me Occupy Wall Street is symbolic. Nothing is going to come of this immediately, though I hope that it will help shape what’s to come. Right now it’s like a college sit-in, demonstrating middle-class frustration, but it could eventually lead to violence and that is the scary next step.

First Impressions: It looks like a street fair to me. If I had been dropped off not knowing what it was, that’s what I would think. People are buying cookies, musicians are singing, people are eating. I talk to people about what they are protesting, but they can’t say. If I had to guess, I’d say that 10% are protesters, 10% journalists, 10% musicians and 70% are tourists. I spoke to people from Switzerland and Israel. I expected thousands of people from what I had seen reported in the media. It was probably 50 to 100 ­people, many just lying around.

The Experience: No one knows who I am. But not one person has come up to me to discuss anything of note. If this were my demonstration, I’d be pulling people aside and trying to talk to them. To me it’s much ado about nothing. I thought there would be at least one or two booths of highly educated people with information and ideas of what should be done. I am not seeing anything intellectual coming out of this. Whether you are a capitalist or a socialist, there are smart people on both sides, but I don’t see any left-wing professors or anyone with specific ideas. They complained about the 1% versus the 99% and how the 1% rules government, and I said that it only takes 51% to put the person you want in office. The guy who claimed to be the press person for Occupy Wall Street talked about planting more farms. I told him I grow my own tomatoes, but this just isn’t the point.

Jeff Greene, the billionaire who agreed to visit Occupy Wall Street with me on Monday, is appearing on Your World With Cavuto on Fox this Thursday afternoon at 4:30 to talk about the Forbes story and his experience visiting protesters downtown.

Greene is a member of the 1%, but he was once part of the 99% (as were 68% of the Forbes 400 who made their own fortunes). He paid for Johns Hopkins U. working as a busboy at the Breakers Hotel in Palm Beach, teaching Hebrew School part-time and checking IDs outside a gym. He also traveled the country selling circus tickets in later years, and put himself through Harvard Business School. Last year he spent $24 million trying to win the democratic nomination for the Florida senate seat.

Though he lost the race, he is clearly still interested in the direction of this country and concerned about income inequality. Here are some of his additional remarks that didn’t make it into the magazine piece:

You can’t ignore people who are struggling. History has shown us that if you continue to empower the poor and desperate by not treating them well and not coming up with solutions to improve their lives, then it will end badly. That’s what happened in Egypt and Tunisia where the disenfranchised took the country.

I was once part of the 99%. I never thought I’d ever be part of the 1% but just the fact that I could try to achieve that was motivating. That’s what this country is about.

I see (Occupy Wall Street) as a small group of people that got an enormous amount of attention. I love that they are getting attention and bringing attention to the fact that the race to top and race to bottom for next generation leaves too many people behind…One guy talked about how we need a maximum wage, not a minimum wage; another guy said we should all just be allowed to own a few acres. If the movement finds a charismatic leader, it might actually lead to something. To me it is just a big wake up call. I lived in LA during the riots and that was really scary.
There was no anger today. It really was a show. There should be anger, not at Wall Street, but at the way the economy isn’t working for them. The solution is to get everyone educated and make everyone competitive and provide a minimum standard of living


Bolded part is exactly what I've been trying to say.


I wonder if a busboy can pay for those two universities these days without taking out those life ending student loans

 

[curbyourenthusiasm]

Originally Posted by knightngale

 

I wonder if a busboy can pay for those two universities these days without taking out those life ending student loans




of course you can work part time as a busboy and pay for hyperinflated tuitions of 2011

(he held 3 jobs at once, btw)

 

[frostythepoptart]

if someone can quickly educate me as to where i can find info on "68% of the forbes 400 starting at the 99%" thanks

 

[memphissfinest]

Jeff Greene talks with OWS activist. Photo credit: Evan Kafka for Forbes

Occupy Wall Street has camped out in lower Manhattan for several weeks, railing against the top 1% of the country. So how does the apex of the pyramid regard this movement? We asked several Forbes 400 members to go undercover and visit the belly of the beast with us. Only one agreed: billionaire real estate investor Jeff Greene. An unsuccessful Democratic candidate in Florida for the U.S. Senate last year, he was as sympathetic to the protesters’ income inequality message as the .0004% could possibly be (he bicycled four miles to check out the protest on Monday afternoon). But even Greene was ­surprised by what he found down in Zuccotti Park. Here are his thoughts from the day:

Upon Arrival: To me Occupy Wall Street is symbolic. Nothing is going to come of this immediately, though I hope that it will help shape what’s to come. Right now it’s like a college sit-in, demonstrating middle-class frustration, but it could eventually lead to violence and that is the scary next step.

First Impressions: It looks like a street fair to me. If I had been dropped off not knowing what it was, that’s what I would think. People are buying cookies, musicians are singing, people are eating. I talk to people about what they are protesting, but they can’t say. If I had to guess, I’d say that 10% are protesters, 10% journalists, 10% musicians and 70% are tourists. I spoke to people from Switzerland and Israel. I expected thousands of people from what I had seen reported in the media. It was probably 50 to 100 ­people, many just lying around.

The Experience: No one knows who I am. But not one person has come up to me to discuss anything of note. If this were my demonstration, I’d be pulling people aside and trying to talk to them. To me it’s much ado about nothing. I thought there would be at least one or two booths of highly educated people with information and ideas of what should be done. I am not seeing anything intellectual coming out of this. Whether you are a capitalist or a socialist, there are smart people on both sides, but I don’t see any left-wing professors or anyone with specific ideas. They complained about the 1% versus the 99% and how the 1% rules government, and I said that it only takes 51% to put the person you want in office. The guy who claimed to be the press person for Occupy Wall Street talked about planting more farms. I told him I grow my own tomatoes, but this just isn’t the point.

Jeff Greene, the billionaire who agreed to visit Occupy Wall Street with me on Monday, is appearing on Your World With Cavuto on Fox this Thursday afternoon at 4:30 to talk about the Forbes story and his experience visiting protesters downtown.

Greene is a member of the 1%, but he was once part of the 99% (as were 68% of the Forbes 400 who made their own fortunes). He paid for Johns Hopkins U. working as a busboy at the Breakers Hotel in Palm Beach, teaching Hebrew School part-time and checking IDs outside a gym. He also traveled the country selling circus tickets in later years, and put himself through Harvard Business School. Last year he spent $24 million trying to win the democratic nomination for the Florida senate seat.

Though he lost the race, he is clearly still interested in the direction of this country and concerned about income inequality. Here are some of his additional remarks that didn’t make it into the magazine piece:

You can’t ignore people who are struggling. History has shown us that if you continue to empower the poor and desperate by not treating them well and not coming up with solutions to improve their lives, then it will end badly. That’s what happened in Egypt and Tunisia where the disenfranchised took the country.

I was once part of the 99%. I never thought I’d ever be part of the 1% but just the fact that I could try to achieve that was motivating. That’s what this country is about.

I see (Occupy Wall Street) as a small group of people that got an enormous amount of attention. I love that they are getting attention and bringing attention to the fact that the race to top and race to bottom for next generation leaves too many people behind…One guy talked about how we need a maximum wage, not a minimum wage; another guy said we should all just be allowed to own a few acres. If the movement finds a charismatic leader, it might actually lead to something. To me it is just a big wake up call. I lived in LA during the riots and that was really scary.
There was no anger today. It really was a show. There should be anger, not at Wall Street, but at the way the economy isn’t working for them. The solution is to get everyone educated and make everyone competitive and provide a minimum standard of living


Bolded part is exactly what I've been trying to say.


  
THIS.

MAKES NO SENSE TO PROTEST AND NOT EVEN HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT WOULD REPLACE THE CURRENT SYSTEM.

RESPECT TO GREENE THOUGH.

 

[oo206oo]

go on somewhere, crumb.

Lol, "Crumb" made me chuckle.  
This dude ksteezy though, smh. He doesnt even care when he gets sonned, he keeps coming back cause he craves the attention so much. 

 

[crcballer55]

Originally Posted by frostythepoptart

if someone can quickly educate me as to where i can find info on "68% of the forbes 400 starting at the 99%" thanks

Try Forbes.com & Wikipedia

.

 

[the great hibachi]

Originally Posted by memphissfinest

THIS.

MAKES NO SENSE TO PROTEST AND NOT EVEN HAVE ANY IDEA OF WHAT WOULD REPLACE THE CURRENT SYSTEM.

RESPECT TO GREENE THOUGH.

*wonders if he read my post in the other thread*

 

[curbyourenthusiasm]

Originally Posted by frostythepoptart

if someone can quickly educate me as to where i can find info on "68% of the forbes 400 starting at the 99%" thanks

    



also,

how come you guys are still responding but havent read the article?

too much reading?

 

[omgitswes]

Originally Posted by CurbYourEnthusiasm

Originally Posted by knightngale

 

I wonder if a busboy can pay for those two universities these days without taking out those life ending student loans

of course you can work part time as a busboy and pay for hyperinflated tuitions of 2011

(he held 3 jobs at once, btw)


yeah man that's what I was saying in the other thread. Work hard enough and anything is possible.

Forbes has some really nice articles every once in a while, you can usually find a free subscription somewhere. I just use my sky miles and got this years

 

[young halo]

only thing missing is you posting pictures of yourself and outfits for other men on the internets...

 

[curbyourenthusiasm]

Originally Posted by omgitswes

Originally Posted by CurbYourEnthusiasm

Originally Posted by knightngale

I wonder if a busboy can pay for those two universities these days without taking out those life ending student loans

of course you can work part time as a busboy and pay for hyperinflated tuitions of 2011

(he held 3 jobs at once, btw)

yeah man that's what I was saying in the other thread. Work hard enough and anything is possible.

i was being sarcastic, b.

you cant pay for john hopkin's with a part time job as a busboy, dog...

  

 

[510hayward]

http://www.youtube.com/wa...&feature=player_embedded

 

[frostythepoptart]

Originally Posted by CurbYourEnthusiasm

Originally Posted by frostythepoptart

if someone can quickly educate me as to where i can find info on "68% of the forbes 400 starting at the 99%" thanks

    



also,

how come you guys are still responding but havent read the article?

too much reading?

whats so funny?

Damn everyone is here got that smug attitude. I checked forbes they had no info on how these people started simply the main source of acquiring wealth.

 

[curbyourenthusiasm]

nah i laughed cause that %%$$ seemed high to me, too...

i dont even need to dispute it, tho, ill let them have that 68% figure...its irrelevant.


the second part of my response was to the people still in here saying the protests have no point.