Best president to ever lead this country?

Originally Posted by Demps

Originally Posted by Flyest In The Hood

ohdannyboy wrote:
George W. Bush

The swagger and nonchalant attitude that dude had will never be matched. Def
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George w. Bush.


Bush Sr. > W
 
ShadyKay NT wrote:
Unless you lived in the years of a president's tenure...how can you seriously make a credible opinion on that person's impact on the nation. Sure history books tell you everything you "need" to know about presidents, but one has to experience it to really know.
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]You need to understand that the decisions a president makes during his time in office cannot be fully evaluated for years if not decades. Do you think people living during Abraham Lincoln's presidency could truly understand the impact of the emancipation proclamation or the civil war?[/font]

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Do you think people living during the construction of the National Highway system understood its implications for the future population distribution of the United States and the subsequent developments of white flight and the black migration to urban centers?[/font]

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ShadyKay NT wrote:
Unless you lived in the years of a president's tenure...how can you seriously make a credible opinion on that person's impact on the nation. Sure history books tell you everything you "need" to know about presidents, but one has to experience it to really know.
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]You need to understand that the decisions a president makes during his time in office cannot be fully evaluated for years if not decades. Do you think people living during Abraham Lincoln's presidency could truly understand the impact of the emancipation proclamation or the civil war?[/font]

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Do you think people living during the construction of the National Highway system understood its implications for the future population distribution of the United States and the subsequent developments of white flight and the black migration to urban centers?[/font]

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Do you think people who are alive NOW will truly understand the implications of our wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? Doubtful. [/font]

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]To truly understand the impact that a president's policys have had on a nation you must view their impacts 10, 20, and 30 years after the fact.[/font]

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Originally Posted by ShadyKay NT

Unless you lived in the years of a president's tenure...how can you seriously make a credible opinion on that person's impact on the nation. Sure history books tell you everything you "need" to know about presidents, but one has to experience it to really know.
Then what purpose do Historians serve?


Anyway, President Lincoln or FDR are appropriate answers, though as noted, they led this country in a time of war, which served to enhance their "greatness." Calvin Coolidge would also be a good choice for "best president," as he led America into the modern age with incredible economic achievement. I'll go with President Lincoln, for all the obvious reasons.

Of course, it's quite difficult to judge, seeing as how we aren't privy to classified information and thus aren't able to properly assess all the reasons why certain decisions were made, and the circumstances that surround those decisions.
 
Originally Posted by ShadyKay NT

Unless you lived in the years of a president's tenure...how can you seriously make a credible opinion on that person's impact on the nation. Sure history books tell you everything you "need" to know about presidents, but one has to experience it to really know.
Then what purpose do Historians serve?


Anyway, President Lincoln or FDR are appropriate answers, though as noted, they led this country in a time of war, which served to enhance their "greatness." Calvin Coolidge would also be a good choice for "best president," as he led America into the modern age with incredible economic achievement. I'll go with President Lincoln, for all the obvious reasons.

Of course, it's quite difficult to judge, seeing as how we aren't privy to classified information and thus aren't able to properly assess all the reasons why certain decisions were made, and the circumstances that surround those decisions.
 
FDR.

The Great Depression and then most of WW2 seemed like impossible situations to lead his country through. Unfortunately, he didn't live to see the end of WW2.
 
FDR.

The Great Depression and then most of WW2 seemed like impossible situations to lead his country through. Unfortunately, he didn't live to see the end of WW2.
 
Lincoln- only freed slaves, so he could eventually begin segragation.

JFK- was corrupt like his whole family.

FDR probably, served 4 terms for a reason  
 
Lincoln- only freed slaves, so he could eventually begin segragation.

JFK- was corrupt like his whole family.

FDR probably, served 4 terms for a reason  
 
Funny some people are basing this off "swag" and other things....Scary that those same people vote
 
Funny some people are basing this off "swag" and other things....Scary that those same people vote
 
Originally Posted by DwyaneWadeOG

ShadyKay NT wrote:
Unless you lived in the years of a president's tenure...how can you seriously make a credible opinion on that person's impact on the nation. Sure history books tell you everything you "need" to know about presidents, but one has to experience it to really know.

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]You need to understand that the decisions a president makes during his time in office cannot be fully evaluated for years if not decades. Do you think people living during Abraham Lincoln's presidency could truly understand the impact of the emancipation proclamation or the civil war?[/font]

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Do you think people living during the construction of the National Highway system understood its implications for the future population distribution of the United States and the subsequent developments of white flight and the black migration to urban centers?[/font]

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Do you think people who are alive NOW will truly understand the implications of our wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? Doubtful. [/font]

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]To truly understand the impact that a president's policys have had on a nation you must view their impacts 10, 20, and 30 years after the fact.[/font]

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i like these statements.  great debate
 
Originally Posted by DwyaneWadeOG

ShadyKay NT wrote:
Unless you lived in the years of a president's tenure...how can you seriously make a credible opinion on that person's impact on the nation. Sure history books tell you everything you "need" to know about presidents, but one has to experience it to really know.

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]You need to understand that the decisions a president makes during his time in office cannot be fully evaluated for years if not decades. Do you think people living during Abraham Lincoln's presidency could truly understand the impact of the emancipation proclamation or the civil war?[/font]

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Do you think people living during the construction of the National Highway system understood its implications for the future population distribution of the United States and the subsequent developments of white flight and the black migration to urban centers?[/font]

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Do you think people who are alive NOW will truly understand the implications of our wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? Doubtful. [/font]

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]To truly understand the impact that a president's policys have had on a nation you must view their impacts 10, 20, and 30 years after the fact.[/font]

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i like these statements.  great debate
 
Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

Abraham Lincoln saved the union.

Gotta go with him.



Indeed. There would be no "United" States of America without Lincoln. And no, it's not about slavery.
 
Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

Abraham Lincoln saved the union.

Gotta go with him.



Indeed. There would be no "United" States of America without Lincoln. And no, it's not about slavery.
 
Originally Posted by ShadyKay NT

Unless you lived in the years of a president's tenure...how can you seriously make a credible opinion on that person's impact on the nation. Sure history books tell you everything you "need" to know about presidents, but one has to experience it to really know.
Are you kidding me?! NTers love speaking on and arguing about things they have no idea about. When I saw the title of this topic I just knew there was going to be a whole lot of stupidity. Reading these replies in here only confirms it.
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