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So is everyone a Jew?
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Now, expand that map and tell me how far Sudan is from Senegambia.So Kush aint in the Bible anymore?
McGraw Hill aint playing around
You keep missing the point that I didn't negate the existence of Black Jews, hence the mention of Ethiopia in my previous comment (could also add Egypt and all the territories around the Horn of Africa).
What does the distance between Sudan and Senegambia have to do with anything?
Psalm 68:31 declares that “Cush shall reach out its arms to God!” (The early Church loved this promise, for they considered Cush to be a metaphor for the gentile Bride of Christ.) The Psalms predicted that one day people would recognize the spirituality of the Cu****es, and declare that they had been born anew in Zion (87:3-6). Isaiah foretold that God would bring forth a remnant from Cush (11:11), and a redeemed people bearing gifts to Zion (18:1-
. Zephaniah proclaimed that from beyond the rivers of Cush, God’s people should bring offerings (3:10). Amos expresses God’s concern for Cush: “‘Are you not like the Cu****es to me, O people of Israel?’ says the Lord” (9:7).Cameroon
Rabbi Yisrael Oriel, formerly Bodol Ngimbus-Ngimbus, was born into the Ba-Saa tribe. He says there were historically Jews in the area and that the word "Ba-Saa" is from the Hebrew for 'on a journey' and means "blessing". Rabbi Oriel claims to be a Levite descended from Moses and reportedly made aliya in 1988, and he was then apparently ordained as a rabbi by the Sephardic Chief Rabbi and appointed rabbi to Nigerian Jews.
Ghana
From the eighteenth century on what is now Ghana was a favorite locus for theories positing Israelite origins for various ethnic groups in the area. These theories were widespread and were taken up by powerful people in the twentieth century.[15] The House of Israel community of Sefwi Wiawso, Sefwi Sui has identified as Jewish since the early 1970s.[16] The Ga-Dangme tribe in the southern Region of Ghana assert that their ancestors are descendants of the tribe Gad and Dan who migrated south through Egypt. They observe many Hebraic traditions such as circumcision of their male child; they also cannot name their male child until he has been circumcised. They also have many ancient Jewish names that are traditional names.
Kenya
Theories suggesting Israelite origins particularly of the Masai abounded in the nineteenth century and were gradually absorbed into religious and societal practices throughout the area.[17] The chief proponent of Masai Israelite origins was a German officer Moritz Merkel whose detailed research is still in use today.[18] Of the many Judaic manifestations in the religious sphere is a small emergent community in Laikipia County, Kenya, which has abandoned Christianity and taken up Judaism. There are an estimated 5,000 of them at the present time. Although at first Messianic, they concluded that their beliefs were incompatible with Christianity and are now waiting to be instructed in traditional Judaism.[19] Some of the younger children of this community have been sent to the Abayudaya schools in Uganda to be instructed in Judaism and other subjects. Luos in Kenya are another of the groups considered by some to be of Israelite origin. They claim to have migrated hundreds of years ago from the north along the river Nile from Egypt through South Sudan and then into Kenya
Nigeria
Since the eighteenth century, there have been claims which state that the Igbo are of Jewish origin.[23] At the present time, the existence of Israelite associations is mainly attributed to the Igbo, many of whom claim Israelite origins. Most of the Jews of Nigeria can be found among the Igbo ethnic group. Certain Nigerian communities with Judaic practices have been receiving help from individual Israelis and American Jews who work in Nigeria with outreach organizations like Kulanu.[24][25] The number of Igbos in Nigeria who identify as Jews has been estimated to number around 4,000 (2016), along with 70 synagogues. Many have converted from Christianity.[25] Other sources give a higher estimate, claiming that some 30,000 Igbos were practicing some form of Judaism in 2008
Uganda
For centuries, it was believed that Jews inhabited the central portions of Africa. Some Africans were keen to adopt Judaism in recent times. One of these was Samei Kakungulu, one of the most remarkable Ugandans of his generation, a brilliant military strategist and a man who had a great amount of spiritual and intellectual curiosity. In 1919, having declared that "we now will be known as Jews," he was circumcised along with his first son, whom he called Yuda. His second son was subsequently circumcised on the eighth day, in the Jewish fashion, and he was named Nimrod. In 1922, Kakungulu published a 90-page book, which was essentially a guide to Judaism. He died a Jew (albeit one with a residual belief in Jesus) and his followers in Mbale, who are known as the Abayudaya, continued to practice Judaism, despite the persecution which they were subjected to during the rule of Idi Amin, when many of them converted to Christianity or Islam, and today, they are some thousand strong. In the twenty first century, the Abayudaya are considered observant practitioners of Judaism, many of them have undergone formal Orthodox conversions, and they have forged strong links with Jewish communities in the United States and Israel, along with increasingly strong links with Black Jewish communities in Africa and elsewhere.[27] In a relatively new movement, the Abayudaya of Uganda have converted to Judaism since 1917, influenced by the American William Saunders Crowdy, who claimed that African Americans were descended from the Jews
Etc Etc...
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"What heritage are we talking about? The fabricated one that claims people from West Africa are the Hebrews of the Bible?"
Neither one of us are historical or biblical scholars but I personally find it difficult to categorize so many folks beliefs as "fabricated" - especially when not one of the folks who claims the authority to categorize these beliefs as false have presented any evidence to the contrary or even been open to having a dialogue about it - even though the Bible itself speaks about Nubians / Ku****es (not Africans because Africa didn't exist back then).
Why is that?
IJS if Moses could wander around the desert for 40 years it stands to reason other folks move around too
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Kanye was a 100% right for those white lives matter shirts 
y’all have been proving it true ever since
Dudes claim to oppose white superiority but will defend it & reference their institutions religiously
y’all have been proving it true ever sinceDudes claim to oppose white superiority but will defend it & reference their institutions religiously
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It is pseudo history because there isn't any evidence to even suggest that this hypothesis might be true.
One of the main claim of BHIs is that the people taken from West Africa were the real Jews (according to the director of that movie). Where is the evidence that shows that the cultures from current Western Sahara to Angola share cultural commonalities that can be traced back to Middle Eastern Jews?
It can't be languages, mythologies, culinary customs, agricultural techniques, succession methods, social structure, transmission of knowledge, etc... because approaches varied from one West African society to another: you have matrilineal and patrilineal societies; animist, polytheist, and monotheist societies; societies that lived off rice agriculture and commerce and societies that lived off cattle raising and mining; you have democracies and monarchies; societies that believed in reincarnation and others that didn't.
There simply is too much diversity in the entirety of the continent (which is about three times the size of the US) to argue that Jews were the common ancestor of all West Africans (or even all Black Africans).
The country I'm from is about the size of California, and we have about 200 languages shared among 25 million people. Unless those Jews were on some Ghengis Khan ****, you can't tell me they're the source of this much diversity.
Meh...
Lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater here...every religion has its fair share of goofballs.
The Hebrew Israelite movement is rooted in Black Judaism, a belief system birthed in the late 1800s by black Christians from the South's Pentecostal "Holiness" movement. They claimed to have received a revelation: America's recently emancipated slaves were God's chosen people, the true Hebrews.
According to Black Judaism doctrine, when the Kingdom of Israel was destroyed, the Israelites were first scattered across the African continent and then selectively targeted by enemy African tribes who captured and sold them to European slave traders for bondage in the New World.
"It's a common myth that slaves were randomly shackled up and carried off to slavery," "General Yahanna," leader of the present-day Israelite School of Universal Practical Knowledge, told the Intelligence Report. Actually, "Slave traders sailed for months and days to get to specific pickup points. They knew what people they were taking — specifically, the lost tribes of Israel."
Black Judaism leaders preached self-empowerment and economic independence, an early form of black nationalism that was foundational for later groups like the Nation of Islam. Their rhetoric, emphasizing the biblical theme of an oppressed nation being led to a promised land, informed black activist thought right up through the speeches of Martin Luther King Jr.
Although followers of Black Judaism thought of themselves as the descendants of the biblical 12 tribes of Israel, most did not take that to mean that other people deserved condemnation or attack.
One notable exception was F.S. Cherry, a self-declared prophet who in 1886 started a "black Jew" church in Chattanooga, Tenn., where he preached that white people were inherently evil and hated by God. Cherry also instructed his followers that the earth is square and that Jesus would return in the year 2000 to install blacks over whites through a race war.
Just as today's racist Hebrew Israelite sects are hateful but smaller detachments of a larger, non-racist faith, Cherry, who relocated his congregation to Philadelphia in 1915, was far less popular in his time than non-racist Black Judaism founders like the Rev. William Christian and William Saunders Crowdy.
After Cherry, the next major purveyor of racist dogma among black Jews was Eber ben Yomin, also known as Abba Bivens, who in the 1960s broke away from the "Commandment Keepers," then the dominant mainstream black Jewish organization, to launch his own extremist sect, which became known as the Israelite School of Universal Practical Knowledge.
Initially based in a Harlem apartment, this new black Israelite group soon moved to a building on New York City's 125th Street, Harlem's main drag. Three of Bivens' disciples — Ahrayah, Masha and Yaiqab — joined with four "high priests" named Chaazaq, Lahab, Yahiya and Shar to take over leadership of the Israelite School. Collectively they were referred to as the "Seven Heads," the inner-circle governors of the black supremacist Hebrew Israelite movement.
Although they employed the same kind of radical rhetoric and confrontational street theater that other militant black groups of the 1970s did, racist Hebrew Israelites held themselves apart. They rejected the "Muslim" beliefs of groups like the Nation of Islam and refused to join with the pork-eating secularists of groups like the Black Panthers.
In the 1980s, the Seven Heads changed the name of their group to the Israelite Church of Universal Practical Knowledge.
The Israelite Church attempted to expand its visibility in the 1990s by declaring, as F.S. Cherry had before them, that Jesus Christ would return to earth in 2000 to enslave and destroy the white race. Meanwhile, some members began to break away and form their own racist Hebrew Israelite sects. One such member, Yahanna, started a chapter and reclaimed the original name Israelite School of Universal Practical Knowledge for his group.
When the year 2000 came without the Israelite Church's prophecy coming to pass, its leaders rebranded the organization as the Israelite Church of God in Jesus Christ, the name they still use today. The organization was taken over in late 2000 by "Chief High Priest Tazadaqyah," born Jermaine Grant, who declared himself the "Holy Spirit" and "The Comforter." Grant recently prophesied that a vengeful black Jesus would soon return to earth to kill or enslave all whites. Unlike Cherry, however, he didn't set a date.
History of Hebrew Israelism
The Hebrew Israelite movement is rooted in Black Judaism, a belief system birthed in the late 1800s by black Christians from the South's Pentecostal "Holiness" movement. They claimed to have received a revelation: America's recently emancipated slaves were God's chosen people, the true Hebrews.
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Demographic and commercial exchanges between Ancient Western/Central African societies and the upper regions of Africa and the middle east were limited due to the difficulty of crossing the Sahara. Ancient folks knew that migration across the desert was a death sentence. That's why Europeans established more permanent links with the continent by sea.
Most of the communities you listed are modern Jewish communities in Africa, and a number of them converted to Judaism (which is fine and legit) between the 18th and the 20th century (after unproven claims of Jewish ancestry, which is also fine since you can convert to Judaism).
The same Wikipedia article references Jewish communities in Ancient and Medieval Africa (which is of higher interest, since it establishes these people on the continent before the transatlantic slave trade), and you'll see that most of those communities are in:
- the Songhai empire
- Ethiopia, Somalia, Tanzania, Sudan, which makes sense since these are all located in Eastern Africa, and it's a region that has had established trade relationships with the Middle East since the dawn of human civilization.
- and the Maghreb, which also makes sense since Jews have been present in Europe and crossing the Mediterranean sea wasn't a problem.
The ethnic markers of most of the descendants of enslaved Africans place them way south of the Sahara desert, and way west of Sudan. The people they are related to are closer to the coastal areas of the West/Central Africa, and the Jewish presence in those areas at that time was either nonexistent or scarce.
Demographic and commercial exchanges between Ancient Western/Central African societies and the upper regions of Africa and the middle east were limited due to the difficulty of crossing the Sahara. Ancient folks knew that migration across the desert was a death sentence. That's why Europeans established more permanent links with the continent by sea.
Most of the communities you listed are modern Jewish communities in Africa, and a number of them converted to Judaism (which is fine and legit) between the 18th and the 20th century (after unproven claims of Jewish ancestry, which is also fine since you can convert to Judaism).
The same Wikipedia article references Jewish communities in Ancient and Medieval Africa (which is of higher interest, since it establishes these people on the continent before the transatlantic slave trade), and you'll see that most of those communities are in:
- the Songhai empire
- Ethiopia, Somalia, Tanzania, Sudan, which makes sense since these are all located in Eastern Africa, and it's a region that has had established trade relationships with the Middle East since the dawn of human civilization.
- and the Maghreb, which also makes sense since Jews have been present in Europe and crossing the Mediterranean sea wasn't a problem.
The ethnic markers of most of the descendants of enslaved Africans place them way south of the Sahara desert, and way west of Sudan. The people they are related to are closer to the coastal areas of the West/Central Africa, and the Jewish presence in those areas at that time was either nonexistent or scarce.
What are the "ethnic markers" of a group whose names, Gods, culture, religion, language, history, traditions, lineage, and even humanity was stolen from them for hundreds of years?
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I was specifically thinking about DNA testing.
But generally speaking about the Americas, it is not exactly true that everything was lost. Africans in Cuba and Brazil have kept some of their cultures and beliefs, which have changed and merged to adapt to their new environment.
I already posted about the book "Exchanging our Country Marks," which reveals the multiple layers of identity of enslaved Africans in the US.
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"High on the Hog" on Netflix covers the ways in which Black Americans preserved some of their culinary heritage. That's actually how I learned that rice was the reason the first Africans in the Carolinas were brought over.
It's also known that the way Americans (well Jack Daniels) distilled whisky is based on a water filtering technique that was brought from West Africa.
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This dude said her name should be revealed and ESPN execs buzzed in his ear and he had to quickly apologize and then now he's acting as he said this from a jump.
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**** explaining your blackness to anyone.
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So is everyone religious?
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I found that part to be hilarious.
I was specifically thinking about DNA testing.
But generally speaking about the Americas, it is not exactly true that everything was lost. Africans in Cuba and Brazil have kept some of their cultures and beliefs, which have changed and merged to adapt to their new environment.
I already posted about the book "Exchanging our Country Marks," which reveals the multiple layers of identity of enslaved Africans in the US.
Afropop Worldwide | The Cameroon-Cuba Connection
Special guest Dr. Ivor Miller, back from a 2021 research trip to Cameroon, takes us into the complexities of south Cameroonian spiritual tradition and its connection to the Cuban Abakuá secret society for men, featuring Abakuá-themed music from Cuba, ceremonial music from Cameroon, and Batanga...
"High on the Hog" on Netflix covers the ways in which Black Americans preserved some of their culinary heritage. That's actually how I learned that rice was the reason the first Africans in the Carolinas were brought over.
It's also known that the way Americans (well Jack Daniels) distilled whisky is based on a water filtering technique that was brought from West Africa.
Cant speak for those dropped off in Cuba or Brazil.
I don't share their culture or "ethnic markers" simply because my ancestors were dropped off at a different destination by different boats with different flags.
As for us here on this soil - everything means everything.
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Black folk in Europe don't use chapstick or something? See alot of cats with chapped lips
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Like Umar, not sure why Boyce won't just stick to his lane.
Not trying to tell him to, "Shutup and dribble" but when you CAN offer a great resource to your people sometimes the sideshow can get in the way of folks taking you seriously.
Not trying to tell him to, "Shutup and dribble" but when you CAN offer a great resource to your people sometimes the sideshow can get in the way of folks taking you seriously.
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