**CHIEF KEEF**

[i lax bro]

chief keef is been played everywhere man, I live in winnetka, which is a place where no one has any idea or relation with what keef raps about, yet I hear it played all over town lmao . Im sure no one actually listens to him for lyrics, but the beats + the catchyness of his songs for getting turnt up make him popular. My parents hate rap, and they say the same thing as the previous posters said, consumers make rappers relevant, not their music.

 

[fray salters]

Yea but Keef is contributing to this cycle and not only that but now he got people in other areas starting to want to be like him. Kids are impressionable as it is. We don't need to see this glorified. And Mobb Deep was a different situation. Them cats were rappin' about the ish but they weren't glorifying it.
I'm in my 20's so I can understand Keef and rock with some of his music without letting it cloud my judgement or be impressionable to me. But these 16 or 17 year olds out here? They are stupid as it is.

They don't need any help in that regard.

How do you figure they (or any other rapper who's rapped about violent things) weren't glorifying it?

MOP had a robbery anthem (Ante Up) that was being played in NBA arenas when it was hot. Aint hear nobody say how detrimental to society they were.

That JayLoud situation is just sad. Dude can't even wear a shirt in his best friends memory. They going hard. 

If you really think dude got shot only because he was wearing a hoodie...I have no words for you.

 

[iblink]

What's the story behind the JayLoud murder?

 

[meek meals]

well looks like he's gonna flop first week, bout time people start realizing his music sucks
http://www.sohh.com/2012/12/chief_keef_tis_first-week_sales_projecti.html

sorry to be the one to break it to you...but that's not what happened.

it's just nobody felt like it was artistry mastered so nobody thought it was worth a purchase
but trust me just as many people as before (if not more) are bumpin it in their whips and using it
for turn up purposes.

It sold like that because Interscope did not do any non-internet promo for this . . . not one 106 appearance, no television videos (although I'm sure they tried to get him a video on TV with Hate Being Sober but he blew that off), and I just think Chief Keef don't care about selling records

 

[guccjermaine]

So y'all applaud dude because he is a "real gangster" and is really "about that life"? I guess I have my morals all out of whack then......

smh so of you value the wrong things man...

Real recognize Real. He may be ignorant but that's who he really is. You don't have to accept him or his music that's your choice.

 

[fray salters]

I'm trying to figure how that's flopping. He sold more than Future did and he's everywhere right now.

 

[rocyaice]

How do you figure they (or any other rapper who's rapped about violent things) weren't glorifying it?

MOP had a robbery anthem (Ante Up) that was being played in NBA arenas when it was hot. Aint hear nobody say how detrimental to society they were.



If you really think dude got shot only because he was wearing a hoodie...I have no words for you.

Its the imagery though. MOP wasn't talkin' to kids. Yea they heard it. Hell I think I was in middle school when Ante Up dropped. It was a cold record. But never did I feel like they were glorifying it. Just rapping it. There's a difference. MOP were some old heads who rapped about robbing people. Chief Keef is 17. He's talking to 17 year olds. At the most impressionable and dumbest time of your life is when your 17. Right after 16 and right before 18. And its not just his music or videos. The social media aspect of him talkin' reckless is a big contribution too. Like I said, I like the lil' homey music. I rock with it. I like his energy. I like his movement. But I can also see how detrimental this is to our society. Its plain as day. Why do you think Iovine putting his money and team behind it? Its just his worst nightmare though because he has somebody who's young and doesn't give a F bout his priorities. It will be the last time he signs a 17 year old rapper I bet you.

 

[rocyaice]

Real recognize Real. He may be ignorant but that's who he really is. You don't have to accept him or his music that's your choice.

Real recognize real? That makes you real fam? How old are you? :x

I'm trying to figure how that's flopping. He sold more than Future did and he's everywhere right now.

Yea but Future didn't have a December release. Album sales are at their HIGHEST in the month of December. And 50k....yea not good. If this wasn't December chances are Keef would've done the 25k or below.

Its a flop but I mean it had to be expected. He did nothing to promote the album. He dropped viral videos to a fanbase that's been downloading his mixtape and more than likely download his album too. Not smart marketing. Interscope might as well drop him and not lose anymore money on him then they already have. And if he just wants to do viral videos he should've just stayed independant. He could've did 50k on his own.

 

[hoosierdaddy317]

Alright enough is enough...

Obviously there various perspectives you can use to view the substance in Keef's music. Whether you choose the "Dudes promoting violence and is a bad influence on society" OR "he's a product of his environment", he's still going to be himself and there's still going to be gang-wars / killings in Chi Town.

Not saying that I condone his subject matter in his raps, but I just like dudes music. His production is nice, decent flow, catchy hooks... idk **** just rides to me. The main problem about his music he conducts is obviously his age. I guarantee if dude wasn't 17, his "negative influence" would be overlooked. There's plenty of gangbanging rappers from the Chi, Keef just so happens to be the "poster boy" per say.

At the end of the day, like Future said " A killer gonna be a killer"... ain't no way around that **** forreal. So just enjoy or ignore his music. It's that easy lol. Literally

 

[Jordan8]

I know keef fans aren't the smartest but I done had numerous ****** try to tell me Kanye had nothing to do with Keef blowing up

 

[illphillip]

I'm saying. Dudes pick and choose when they wanna be social ambassadors. When it's Ross, dudes wanna be like he's hurting the youth but when it's Keef, dudes wanna celebrate and applaud someone half their age being trapped in a dumb pointless cycle.​

Make up y'all's mind. Either y'all do not care about the social ramifications of rap music or you hate and resent every rapper to ever glamorize drug dealing and murdering (including Biggie, Hov, etc.).​

Let's make a very clear distinction, since you decided you wanted to bring up Ross.

I don't like Keef, I don't listen to Keef. But by most accounts, when it comes to his music, the vibe I get is Keef is being Keef.

Is that a good thing in my opinion? No. This and only this has been my issue with Ross.

When someone plays a role, and it ain't really them by most accounts and even by their OWN account (on some "yea, that's not me. Oops, I forgot what I looked like 10 years ago and where I worked"), and that role is glorifying a lifestyle that can be perceived as detrimental, and they ain't even realistic about it, that's something I take issue with.

And for the record, I BEEN said this about Mobb Deep too. You know this is you been 'round here long enough.

See the difference? One is a wild boy who raps about being a wild boy. The other is a man with a questionable past who seemingly adopted the persona of a drug kingpin because he knew that was marketable as a rapper.

I don't listen to Jay and his music and think of him as an "actor". Same with Keef. Same with Cudi, Drake. Common. Big Sean. Kendrick. Maino, TI, Gucci. MOP. Be they "gangster" or not, there are plenty of guys whose music seems to represent their personas.

When you adopt a notorious drug kingpin's name, look, identity, etc., that is something totally different than what we're dealing with in Keef.

 

[nationaltruckerdave]

I know keef fans aren't the smartest but I done had numerous ****** try to tell me Kanye had nothing to do with Keef blowing up

Kanye didn't have nothing to do with Keef blowig up, Keef ain't need Kanye to do that whack remix

 

[160jordansdeep]

I don't know why you still buy physical cds.
do you realize that itunes has extra tracks? then certain retailers have diff tracks?
they're screwing people that still buy cds

i'm stuck

i still have to hold music in my hands for some reason

i know its silly

 

[benny bugatti]

I think Keef has way more influence on the youth than Ross. Most people take Rawse as fiction anyway, so it's not like he's really convincing anyone to sell crack. Keef is making it cool to be a stupid gangbanger.

 

[illphillip]

^^^

I'm not sure young people make that distinction. Adults know Ross is fiction. Partially because we're old enough to remember the CO situation.

Kids may not.

Anyone who can be influenced to think it's "cool to be a stupid gangbanger" can be influenced to think it's cool to be a drug kingpin.

 

[killmoves301]

I think what y'all r forgetting us as humans we hav always been violent shouts out to Jesus and glorifying drugs is nothing new people been getting high. Chief keef can not b held responsible for teenagers who try to smoke weed nor shud he be blamed if ur friend or family dies of gang or drug related violence.

 

[waitwut]

I know keef fans aren't the smartest but I done had numerous ****** try to tell me Kanye had nothing to do with Keef blowing up

Kanye didn't have nothing to do with Keef blowig up, Keef ain't need Kanye to do that whack remix

you do know the original dont like had like less than a million views before the remix came out? then it blew up to like 15-20mil

i wouldnt be a keef fan if yeezy didnt remix it i never even knew who he was til then

you might've thought it was whack but it gave keef a huge spot light

 

[meek meals]

I know keef fans aren't the smartest but I done had numerous ****** try to tell me Kanye had nothing to do with Keef blowing up

Kanye didn't have nothing to do with Keef blowig up, Keef ain't need Kanye to do that whack remix

you do know the original dont like had like less than a million views before the remix came out? then it blew up to like 15-20mil

i wouldnt be a keef fan if yeezy didnt remix it i never even knew who he was til then

you might've thought it was whack but it gave keef a huge spot light

IDL had less than a million but that wasn't his only song . . . all of his videos were approaching that upper hundred thousands, close to a million views pre-Kanye

Ye def introduced him to the blogosphere . . . he had been buzzing in chicago for a while

The bassline and synths on that remix tho

Travis Scott is a beast

 

[meek meals]

Chief keef Rappers in general can not b held responsible for teenagers who try to smoke weed nor shud he be blamed if ur friend or family dies of gang or drug related violence.

 

[nako xl]

I'm trying to figure how that's flopping. He sold more than Future did and he's everywhere right now.

He sold more than Future AND Flocka's debuts but their HUGE records became singles after the release of his album.

Keef has nothing as good as I Don't Like or Love Sosa left on the album.  He already dropped those, got co-signs from Kanye and Drake, and every rap blog.  Pitchfork practically campaigned for him themselves, he got major features from 50, Wiz, Jeezy, Ross (and the entire GOOD music camp basically with his collab), released his album in the christmas season and he still only sold 50k...?  And now he's pissed his label off?  They might shelve him.

People did see this coming...

Chief Keef may have nabbed 50 Cent and Wiz Khalifa for his new single "Hate Being Sober," but he reportedly wasn't able to hang with the guys on the set of his own video.

Last night, Fif took to Twitter to state that the young rapper didn't show up to the shoot. "I never saw anything like this on the first song," he wrote. "Its not funny @chiefkeef didn't sell any records yet,they will pull the plug on him."

 

[fray salters]

He sold more than Future AND Flocka's debuts but their HUGE records became singles after the release of his album.

Keef has nothing as good as I Don't Like or Love Sosa left on the album.  He already dropped those, got co-signs from Kanye and Drake, and every rap blog.  Pitchfork practically campaigned for him themselves, he got major features from 50, Wiz, Jeezy, Ross (and the entire GOOD music camp basically with his collab), released his album in the christmas season and he still only sold 50k...?  And now he's pissed his label off?  They might shelve him.

People did see this coming...

Hate Being Sober won't be as big as Love Sosa?

Ehh...the video was finished with Keef finishing his part separately. Wiz is even on record saying that him missing the shoot wasn't a big deal and people made that seem bigger than what it was.

50 is mad because he couldn't get that 30K out of the kid to have his people shoot the video.

 

[kingb]

Chicago just hit 500 murders for 2012 this has Nothing to do with keef and his gbe click with songs like "Up them poles" keefs music makes you calm & gives You serenity

 

[airuphere23]

Chicago just hit 500 murders for 2012 this has Nothing to do with keef and his gbe click with songs like "Up them poles" keefs music makes you calm & gives You serenity

Oh.....

 

[guttagetsbusy]

Rap fans are fickle and do not know what they want entirely out of the music rap/hip-hop artists provide them. Being caught up in an artist's life outside of the booth so much has put a dent in how people perceive music.

 

[fray salters]

Rap fans are fickle and do not know what they want entirely out of the music rap/hip-hop artists provide them. Being caught up in an artist's life outside of the booth so much has put a dent in how people perceive music.

Whose fault is that...the fans or the artists?

What other genre is centered around images outside of the music?

The two go hand in hand. You can't blame the fans for that. The fans didn't create and push the whole "keep it real" aspect of the culture.