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[color= rgb(102, 0, 153)]You should get paid for what you do....communism as an idea is great but then why should you get whati make for myself? and then it usually leads to a dictatorship............[/color]
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I totally agree. Look how well it worked in the Soviet Union.Originally Posted by damnitzvin
everything is shared, thus everybody wins
Originally Posted by JChambers
You could also say "Hitler shaped Germany into a world power, he was a good leader."Originally Posted by Sputnik
Los Yankees. Why Do you go to the restaurant or get fast food. This is the reason they imported certain resources; it's more efficient and possibly cheaper. It wasn't Stalin that made "communism" look bad. It's the US that associates the word with evil. Stalin shaped Russia into a world power, he was a good leader. Sure there were sacrifices in the process, but aren't there always?
Originally Posted by B Smooth 202
I've just realized no human run system of government or ideology will ever really work.
Originally Posted by Sputnik
Originally Posted by JChambers
You could also say "Hitler shaped Germany into a world power, he was a good leader."Originally Posted by Sputnik
Los Yankees. Why Do you go to the restaurant or get fast food. This is the reason they imported certain resources; it's more efficient and possibly cheaper. It wasn't Stalin that made "communism" look bad. It's the US that associates the word with evil. Stalin shaped Russia into a world power, he was a good leader. Sure there were sacrifices in the process, but aren't there always?
Hitler was an amazing leader, with horrible intentions. If you disagree, you are an idiot.
i wanna go to cuba one day before da embargos are gone....i would LOVE to see how a world looks void of commercialismOriginally Posted by airmaxpenny1
You really understand nothing about Cuba Bro.
so you are an idiot.Originally Posted by JChambers
Originally Posted by Sputnik
Originally Posted by JChambers
You could also say "Hitler shaped Germany into a world power, he was a good leader."Originally Posted by Sputnik
Los Yankees. Why Do you go to the restaurant or get fast food. This is the reason they imported certain resources; it's more efficient and possibly cheaper. It wasn't Stalin that made "communism" look bad. It's the US that associates the word with evil. Stalin shaped Russia into a world power, he was a good leader. Sure there were sacrifices in the process, but aren't there always?
Hitler was an amazing leader, with horrible intentions. If you disagree, you are an idiot.
How old are you?
Originally Posted by pinkpob
Originally Posted by B Smooth 202
I've just realized no human run system of government or ideology will ever really work.
I know. I can't wait till our Robot Master's take over
[color= rgb(102, 0, 153)]He was a great leader...he got his people brainwashed and did things to gainpower....great leader, horrible cause[/color]Originally Posted by Sputnik
so you are an idiot.Originally Posted by JChambers
Originally Posted by Sputnik
Originally Posted by JChambers
You could also say "Hitler shaped Germany into a world power, he was a good leader."Originally Posted by Sputnik
Los Yankees. Why Do you go to the restaurant or get fast food. This is the reason they imported certain resources; it's more efficient and possibly cheaper. It wasn't Stalin that made "communism" look bad. It's the US that associates the word with evil. Stalin shaped Russia into a world power, he was a good leader. Sure there were sacrifices in the process, but aren't there always?
Hitler was an amazing leader, with horrible intentions. If you disagree, you are an idiot.
How old are you?
I never said anything you just assumed. I talked about what ppl would ideally prefer based on them being irrational. Nothing in my post impliescapitalism is better than communism or that countries who are capitalist do better than countries that are communist.Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1
Originally Posted by Master Zik
Well that was his few on us and some other Western European countries. When you look at places like Cuba and Russia the corruption is clear. Although like someone said you could just call those dictatorships (but they did start off communist). China happens to be a special case.Originally Posted by CallHimAR
Very true.Originally Posted by Master Zik
Power corrupts.
Only perfect people can make communism work.
However the only reason we are not perfect, in what would most likely be Marx's opinion, is because we have been living in a Capitalist society for so long we think it is "natural."
I can understand both sides of the argument in capitalism vs. communism and both have their pros and cons. Communism leaves no room for fantasies of one day living in the lap of luxury where you're rich and don't have to work where as capitalism leaves plenty of room of the fear of hitting rock bottom living on the street not knowing where you're next meal is gonna come from.
As people a lot of us are irrational when it comes to that and that's why most favor capitalism since communism in some ways takes away hope of a better life so to speak.
At the end of the day both have some form of a caste system but maybe that's cuz no country has really succeeded with either on a permanent basis.
You think there is any less corrpution here than there is in Cuba??? There is far more here, we just don't even realize it. The past 8 years of the Bush administration is rife with every type of societal ill and human rights violation one could imagine. And for you that act like the USSR failed, they are about to become a world power once again, while our star is fading. Within 40 years ago Russia will prolly be a more powerful country than us.
Originally Posted by Master Zik
I never said anything you just assumed. I talked about what ppl would ideally prefer based on them being irrational. Nothing in my post implies capitalism is better than communism or that countries who are capitalist do better than countries that are communist.
As we all know and I've said before the U.S. isn't even currently working under capitalist ideals and it hasn't been since around the first Bush administration. We all know how good we had it with the internet boom but that cash cow is gone.
Also capitalism or the lack thereof in this country is the least to blame for our downfall during the Bush administration. The amount of unconstitutional and reckless things are the cause(passing laws ignoring our civil liberties, going over Congress to start a war, etc.) The current state of America was inevitable the way things have been going the past decade.
Furthermore the USSR did fail. You know Russia is no longer communist right? Also lets not act like Russia is about to become a world power due to communism.
Originally Posted by Sputnik
so you are an idiot.Originally Posted by JChambers
Originally Posted by Sputnik
Originally Posted by JChambers
You could also say "Hitler shaped Germany into a world power, he was a good leader."Originally Posted by Sputnik
Los Yankees. Why Do you go to the restaurant or get fast food. This is the reason they imported certain resources; it's more efficient and possibly cheaper. It wasn't Stalin that made "communism" look bad. It's the US that associates the word with evil. Stalin shaped Russia into a world power, he was a good leader. Sure there were sacrifices in the process, but aren't there always?
Hitler was an amazing leader, with horrible intentions. If you disagree, you are an idiot.
How old are you?
Originally Posted by damnitzvin
everything is shared, thus everybody wins
Then lazy scumbags will get money they don't deserve.
This is a TERRIBLE argument for many reasons. One of them being that there are rich lazy scumbags out there. The idea that rich people = hardworking and noble and that poor people = lazy scumbags is a myth perpetuated by some of capitalism's biggest supporters.