Delete/Lock...Draft talk over in JPZ's thread....

Originally Posted by FoShizzle

If Jrue Holiday gets drafted over Steph Curry or Johnny Flynn something is wrong with the world.
How? Jrue is bigger then both, has just as good pg skills as both, he's defensive specialist.....

How would that be wrong? If Rubio is not at 4 I wouldn't mind getting Jrue even though its a reach.
 
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he has more upside because he has more explosion.


Shooting? Tyler
Rebounding? Griffin
Passing? even
Speed? Tyler
Winning? Tyler
Ballhandling? even
on ball defense? Tyler
weakside defense? Griffin
blocks? Griffin
 
Originally Posted by Weaponry Expert


Wait, so now the media was against Tyler Hansbrough?
Id picked Griffin over Hansbrough because the NBA is more about athletic ability than basketball skill on the front line.

Or because he is flat out a better basketball player


no, but the media stereotypes just like fans do. White players work hard and are smart, black players run like gazelles and jump out of the gym.
 
Originally Posted by Im Not You

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You should pick Griffin over Hansbrough in any circumstance...college or NBA
pick up
YMCA
boys and girls club league
AAU
Euroleague
who goes to get groceries for the crib
who gets a cell phone first (if you a parent)
etc......
 
Originally Posted by manamazing55

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he has more upside because he has more explosion.


Shooting? Tyler
Rebounding? Griffin
Passing? even
Speed? Tyler
Winning? Tyler
Ballhandling? even
on ball defense? Tyler
weakside defense? Griffin
blocks? Griffin
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This is an individual statistic now?
 
Originally Posted by kchildz1

I believe Curry will be a bust in the league


With that shot, I doubt it. If he were three inches taller he would be going number 1.
 
Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by kchildz1

I believe Curry will be a bust in the league


With that shot, I doubt it. If he were three inches taller he would be going number 1.
If he were 3 inches taller he probably wouldn't have been at Davidson either
 
Originally Posted by manamazing55

Shooting? Tyler
Rebounding? Griffin
Passing? even
Speed? Tyler
Winning? Tyler
Ballhandling? even
on ball defense? Tyler
weakside defense? Griffin
blocks? Griffin


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Originally Posted by Im Not You

Originally Posted by manamazing55

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he has more upside because he has more explosion.


Shooting? Tyler
Rebounding? Griffin
Passing? even
Speed? Tyler
Winning? Tyler
Ballhandling? even
on ball defense? Tyler
weakside defense? Griffin
blocks? Griffin
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This is an individual statistic now?


its a mindset, its something you get used to doing. It makes you push yourself to keep that level of excellence.
 
Originally Posted by manamazing55

Originally Posted by Im Not You

Originally Posted by manamazing55

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he has more upside because he has more explosion.


Shooting? Tyler
Rebounding? Griffin
Passing? even
Speed? Tyler
Winning? Tyler
Ballhandling? even
on ball defense? Tyler
weakside defense? Griffin
blocks? Griffin
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This is an individual statistic now?


its a mindset, its something you get used to doing. It makes you push yourself to keep that level of excellence.
None of that made any sense...

Winning is when one group of 12 beats the other group of 12...simple as that.

Blake Griffin is just flat out BETTER than Tyler Hansbrough however you want to slice it. Forget upside.
 
Originally Posted by Im Not You

Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by kchildz1

I believe Curry will be a bust in the league


With that shot, I doubt it. If he were three inches taller he would be going number 1.
If he were 3 inches taller he probably wouldn't have been at Davidson either


....my point was not to play the what if game, but rather the fact that the only way he would flop would be because of his size, which I don't think hewill. He CAN make his own shot.
 
Originally Posted by manamazing55

^

he has more upside because he has more explosion.


Shooting? Tyler
Rebounding? Griffin
Passing? even
Speed? Tyler
Winning? Tyler
Ballhandling? even
on ball defense? Tyler
weakside defense? Griffin
blocks? Griffin
You might be the only person in America who will be upset when Tyler Hansbrough doesn't go #1 overall....

And you REALLY think all that separates TH from Blake Griffin is "explosion????" Seriously?
 
Originally Posted by Fede DPT

There is NO reason why the Knicks should not take Flynn.
Theres NO reason why the Knicks should take Flynn if Curry is there at 8
 
Originally Posted by yungmatt

Originally Posted by Fede DPT

There is NO reason why the Knicks should not take Flynn.
Theres NO reason why the Knicks should take Flynn if Curry is there at 8
right now, this is true. FLynn 6OT game got scouts going crazy still
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Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Originally Posted by manamazing55

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he has more upside because he has more explosion.


Shooting? Tyler
Rebounding? Griffin
Passing? even
Speed? Tyler
Winning? Tyler
Ballhandling? even
on ball defense? Tyler
weakside defense? Griffin
blocks? Griffin
You might be the only person in America who will be upset when Tyler Hansbrough doesn't go #1 overall....

And you REALLY think all that separates TH from Blake Griffin is "explosion????" Seriously?


he shouldnt go top 5 because he doesnt have top 5 explosion and jumping ability.

I hope he goes to a team in the late first round that needs his experience and skills.

Blake Griffin is better in that he is a year younger and is more of an elite leaper, rebounder. Blake Griffin is NOT a cant miss prospect however. This is aweak draft class and he might have the best upside in the minds of the NBA teams, but it is not a shoe in that he will be a perennial all star. He has ALOT ofwork to do to be a reliable low post scoring option for a team. A top 5 is expected to be able to be a go to guy at some point.

Pointing out that there isnt such a disparity between their abilities doesnt mean Im trying to say Hansbrough should be #1 or his better in the long run thanGriffin.
 
Originally Posted by yungmatt

Originally Posted by Fede DPT

There is NO reason why the Knicks should not take Flynn.
Theres NO reason why the Knicks should take Flynn if Curry is there at 8


Curry is good, but I don't know how you guys see him being better than Flynn. More athletic, bigger body, more all around game. Flynn is the goods.
 
Originally Posted by manamazing55

Blake Griffin is better in that he is a year younger and is more of an elite leaper, rebounder. Blake Griffin is NOT a cant miss prospect however.
Pointing out that there isnt such a disparity between their abilities doesnt mean Im trying to say Hansbrough should be #1 or his better in the long run than Griffin.

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Hansbum is like 24 aint he?
 
Originally Posted by Fede DPT

Originally Posted by yungmatt

Originally Posted by Fede DPT

There is NO reason why the Knicks should not take Flynn.
Theres NO reason why the Knicks should take Flynn if Curry is there at 8


Curry is good, but I don't know how you guys see him being better than Flynn. More athletic, bigger body, more all around game. Flynn is the goods.
Curry's potential in D'Antoni's offense >>> Flynn's potential in D'Antoni's offense.
 
Originally Posted by yungmatt

Originally Posted by manamazing55

Blake Griffin is better in that he is a year younger and is more of an elite leaper, rebounder. Blake Griffin is NOT a cant miss prospect however.
Pointing out that there isnt such a disparity between their abilities doesnt mean Im trying to say Hansbrough should be #1 or his better in the long run than Griffin.

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Hansbum is like 24 aint he?


Hansbum? Dominated college ball for 4 years. All Time leading scorer in ACC history. NPOY. National Champion.

I want bums on my team every year
 
Originally Posted by Im Not You

Curry's potential in D'Antoni's offense >>> Flynn's potential in D'Antoni's offense.


You base that on what, exactly? What does Curry do that Flynn cant? Explain it to me. Tell me something Curry did that Flynn didn't do against way bettercompetition.
 
Originally Posted by Fede DPT

Originally Posted by Im Not You

Curry's potential in D'Antoni's offense >>> Flynn's potential in D'Antoni's offense.


You base that on what, exactly? What does Curry do that Flynn cant? Explain it to me. Tell me something Curry did that Flynn didn't do against way better competition.
Shoot...which is the one skill that will guarantee you a job in the NBA.

In an uptempo offense predicated on shooters and ball movement...I don't see what Flynn brings to the table that Curry can't. Maybe in a typicaloffense I'd probably rather have Flynn. When looking at prospects in a specific system...the "all around" player doesn't always make the mostsense. Chris Paul is the best point guard in the NBA...better than Nash was...even in Nash's prime. Replace Nash with Paul on the Run N Gun Suns teams andthey aren't the same. Why? Because Nash's skillset is just a better fit for the system. Same thing I see with Curry and the Knicks right now.
 
Dominated college ball? What Kevin Durant did was dominate, what Blake Griffin did was dominate, Hansbum was far from dominating. His teams were superior tomost, he was not.
 
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