Delete/Lock...Draft talk over in JPZ's thread....

Originally Posted by Kiddin Like Jason

Get Gani if anyone out of that craptacular group.
I would prefer Pendergraph.

God forbid that was a list of potential targets at 21.
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Yeah Jeff probably has the best shot at being a player out of those, but still not a great pool to be pulling a card from.

But, there's always picks, you just got to KNOW WHO to pick.

Definitely not Harangody's or Aboya's though.
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Originally Posted by bhzmafia14

Originally Posted by JapanAir21

Originally Posted by I NaSmatic I

Hopefully Gortat doesn't turn into Dan Gadzuric 2.0

Can't believe this is ANOTHER player the Suns drafted and traded away though.

Marcin Gortat, Luol Deng, Rudy Fernandez, Nate Robinson and Rajon Rondo
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...imagine those five in D'Antoni's offense along with Nash, Amare, etc.
How to ruin a franchise 101,
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Even if they had kept some of their guys like Fernandez, or Rajon Rondo, or Luol Deng, it would have made them exponentially better, but instead they trade away their draft picks, trade away huge pieces of their team like Marion, Bell, and Diaw, and you get huge contracts and players past their prime in Jason Richardson and Shaq.

I just don't get it.
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Who was the scout for the Suns during these drafts? The GM was stupid of course.
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I think it was Sarver's (owner) fault...he didn't want to spend the extra money.

Which was stupid considering they gave Boris Diaw that horrendous $45M extension and gave Marcus Banks another $25M to collect splinters on the bench
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Originally Posted by IMASOLEMAN18

whens will we start to see trades for picks?
Don't quote me on it, but I believe most pick trades done the day of. Or at least announced during the draft.
 
Originally Posted by JapanAir21

Originally Posted by pkballr

The only reason Rubio would come to Sacramento is because he knows he'll get franchise status and starter minutes when he plays here. Plus, it's more exposure compared to the middle coast. Can't wait for Friday though, seems like Sacramento will be bringing in Flynn, Jennings, and Holiday all for workouts. Battle of the PG's...
What's friday?

And I'm really starting to like Jennings as non-top three picks.
Maybe Friday is also the day Rubio meets the Kings in Sacramento...
 
The Clippers can seriously rebuild their team with this draft. Eric Gordon seems like a legitimate scorer in the league and can play the 2 for them. Blake Iseriously think will be an all-star in this league and will be great. The team comes down to which Baron Davis shows up. If we see anything like how he was onthe Warriors when he led them to the playoffs then the Clippers may be able to sneak into the playoffs this year. Just maybe.
 
Are the Clippers historically a bad franchise? Yes. But you people make it seem like they're the scum of the earth or something. It's was just a fewyears ago when everyone on here was jumping on the bandwagon and calling them the "Best Team in LA" the year they were a game away from theconference finals
 
[h1]Grizzlies expect Ricky Rubio visit for workout[/h1] [h2]Spanish guard reportedly plans U.S. trip as soon as next week[/h2]
By Ronald Tillery

Tuesday, June 9, 2009

If Spanish point guard Ricky Rubio indeed comes to the America and visits NBA teams before the draft, the Grizzlies expect to be part of the tour.

The 18-year-old's plans are still foreign to Griz general manager Chris Wallace, but several media outlets say Rubio and his family are scheduled to board a flight June 13 bound for the United States.

There are Internet and Spanish reports that contend Rubio would skip Memphis and visit only Los Angeles, Oklahoma City and Sacramento -- teams that own the first, third and fourth picks.

Wallace, though, said Monday afternoon that no one from Rubio's camp has indicated the Spaniard would bypass Memphis -- owners of the No. 2 overall selection.

"I don't have anything set up. But it's open-ended. If he's in the country, we definitely want him here," said Wallace, who is seriously considering selecting Rubio with the Grizzlies' lottery pick in the June 25 draft.

Wallace isn't putting stock in speculation about a Rubio visit to the U.S. -- he'll await definitive word from the player's representatives.

"All of that remains to be seen," Wallace said. "Nothing is set right now."

Rubio's intentions have been widely reported through sources since the draft lottery unfolded last month. The teenage point guard hasn't been quoted with any opinion about possibly landing in Memphis. Nor has Rubio's U.S. agent, Dan Fegan, publicly demanded the Griz not select his client.

Wallace also insists that his separate meetings with Fegan (in Los Angeles) and Rubio (in Barcelona) were "cordial" and "productive."

The next meeting between Rubio and his ACB League team, DKV Joventut, will likely take on a different tone regarding a contract between the parties.

Rubio reportedly notified DKV Joventut on Monday that he wanted to terminate a deal that would require a $6.6 million buyout for him to play in the NBA. Rubio is scheduled to earn just $175,000 next season with DKV Joventut.

"The (buyout) clauses are disproportionate to his salary -- abusive clauses," Rubio's father, Esteban, told ESPN.com. "We want to know, if he really left, whether or not he'd have to pay these amounts. It's fair for DKV Joventut to get paid a certain amount of money, but what they want to collect is out of proportion with what Ricky earns."

Rubio apparently hasn't filed a lawsuit and instead has asked for an arbitration hearing.

A favorable decision for Rubio would mean he could play in the NBA with no baggage. Rubio could decide to stay in Spain if an arbitrator rules that the buyout is reasonable.

Meanwhile, the Griz still are entertaining offers for the No. 2 pick as well as their 27th and 36th selections.

As the rumor mill churns, the Griz have been approached by several teams about acquiring the second overall pick. Boston, Houston and New York are said to be among the most recent suitors.

Boston and Houston would likely have to offer an established NBA player or two, given that neither team owns a first-round pick. New York owns the eighth pick and likely would want to move up for the opportunity to take Rubio.

Tip-ins: Griz brass conducted a pre-draft workout Monday with prospects that will be considered for their 27th and 36th picks. Chris Johnson (LSU), Josh Carter (Texas A&M), Wes Matthews (Marquette), Stefon Jackson (UTEP), Garrett Temple (LSU) participated. Jackson was asked to return today for a workout that will include former University of Memphis guard Antonio Anderson.

The Griz will conduct a second free-agent camp June 15-17 in FedExForum.
 
What if Boston offered Rondo and Allen for the no.2 pick and Darko.
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But seriously, what could Houston or Boston offer for the no.2 pick? I already have a feeling of what NY probably offered. Sign and trade for Lee and the 8thpick for no.2 pick and Darko's expiring.
 
Confirmed that Scottie Reynolds pulled out of the draft.

Good move for him b/c he damn sure wouldn't have been drafted.
 
Originally Posted by cleansneaksonly21

^^^i would do that trade on both ends... who would the Grizz target @8

From what I've read, Memphis likes Gerald Henderson, Tyreke Evans (probably won't be there), maybe Derozan or Curry. I'm starting to really likeHenderson. I see a little smaller Richardson Jefferson/Michael Finley in him. Either of these guys would be good fits since we would have covered the PF spotwith Lee.

I'm just not too sold on Lee. Barely saw any NYK games this season so I couldn't say I would love to have him, but know he definitely put up numbers inD'Antoni's system.
 
Originally Posted by SHUGES

Confirmed that Scottie Reynolds pulled out of the draft.

Good move for him b/c he damn sure wouldn't have been drafted.


Very smart decision on his part
 
Originally Posted by bhzmafia14


What if Boston offered Rondo and Allen for the no.2 pick and Darko.
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But seriously, what could Houston or Boston offer for the no.2 pick? I already have a feeling of what NY probably offered. Sign and trade for Lee and the 8th pick for no.2 pick and Darko's expiring.
DO IT!!!! I want Rubio in a Knicks uniform.
 
Originally Posted by bhzmafia14

Originally Posted by cleansneaksonly21

^^^i would do that trade on both ends... who would the Grizz target @8

From what I've read, Memphis likes Gerald Henderson, Tyreke Evans (probably won't be there), maybe Derozan or Curry. I'm starting to really like Henderson. I see a little smaller Richardson Jefferson/Michael Finley in him. Either of these guys would be good fits since we would have covered the PF spot with Lee.

I'm just not too sold on Lee. Barely saw any NYK games this season so I couldn't say I would love to have him, but know he definitely put up numbers in D'Antoni's system.
I personally like Earl Clark. He's athletic, got size and can do a lot of things. I'm not sure if he can translate to the SF positionthough.
 
Originally Posted by I NaSmatic I

Originally Posted by bhzmafia14

Originally Posted by cleansneaksonly21

^^^i would do that trade on both ends... who would the Grizz target @8

From what I've read, Memphis likes Gerald Henderson, Tyreke Evans (probably won't be there), maybe Derozan or Curry. I'm starting to really like Henderson. I see a little smaller Richardson Jefferson/Michael Finley in him. Either of these guys would be good fits since we would have covered the PF spot with Lee.

I'm just not too sold on Lee. Barely saw any NYK games this season so I couldn't say I would love to have him, but know he definitely put up numbers in D'Antoni's system.
I personally like Earl Clark. He's athletic, got size and can do a lot of things. I'm not sure if he can translate to the SF position though.


he can play the 3,4 and even some 2 imo. Like a more athletic rashard lewis. He needs to be more agressive though. A lot more agressive.
 
From Boston's perspective, I doubt they include Rondo and Ray. I doubt they're even serious about the #2. Boston makes this trade, draft Rubio, andthen what? They lose their SG in the process. Doesn't really make sense.

For Houston, I thought if it's true, T-Mac would be included. But thinking about it some more, Memphis already got grief for trading the #2 for an expiringin the Gasol trade. They'd probably get grief again trading the #2 for an expiring, basically. Probably a Ron Artest with a new deal in place since Memphisis under the cap + maybe Brooks to give Memphis PG depth. And Houston takes back Jaric and helps Memphis rid themselves of his contract.

...or Memphis wants back Battier
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Maybe Danny Ainge is so hesitant about giving Rajon Rondo a large extension, he figures he can trade him for more size and make a run at a PG in freeagency. The Celtics can draft Hasheem Thabeet, giving them another defensive anchor then make a run at Jason Kidd, Mike Bibby or Andre Miller in freeagency.

Just something to think about.
 
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