Delete.

[nothingtol0se]

Riley

Riley's achievements

...especially with the grizz

 

[mjdalegend]

 

[antoekneeo]

I do not see Mullin as the type to "dish dirt" on someone, even on someone as low as Rowell. I also think Mullin will end up with the Knicks in somecapacity. I am happy to see him go, only because he will be going to a better situation and work environment, which will hopefully result in success.

 

[vietsta4o8]

mullys gunna reunite with al harrington in ny.

 

[acidicality]

 

[bangdak]

you're loss GSW. thanks

now all we need is AR. you guys can take ak47

 

[daprescription]

[h2]Here's an Interesting Trade …[/h2]
By Marcus Thompson
Saturday, May 9th, 2009 at 10:13 am in Uncategorized.

The Warriors need a place to send guard Jamal Crawford, right? How about this trade:

Crawford to Portland for C Joel Pryzbillla and PG Steve Blake.

Portland needs a help in the backcourt for Brandon Roy, who is Crawford's best friend, BTW. They maybe interested. Pryzbilla is getting $6.857 million next season and he has a player option for 2010-11 ($7.4 million). Blake has one year left at $4.9 million.

Plus, after pulling this off, the Warriors can afford to ship Andris Biedrins and Brandan Wright to Toronto for Chris Bosh. Golden State would have Turiaf and Pryzbilla as their centers. That ain't half bad. Plus they'd be much better at the PF position.

I'd do this. If Toronto passes, you should still be able to make a move somewhere.

 

[chr1scross]

Originally Posted by daprescription

[h2]Here's an Interesting Trade …[/h2]
By Marcus Thompson
Saturday, May 9th, 2009 at 10:13 am in Uncategorized.

The Warriors need a place to send guard Jamal Crawford, right? How about this trade:

Crawford to Portland for C Joel Pryzbillla and PG Steve Blake.

Portland needs a help in the backcourt for Brandon Roy, who is Crawford's best friend, BTW. They maybe interested. Pryzbilla is getting $6.857 million next season and he has a player option for 2010-11 ($7.4 million). Blake has one year left at $4.9 million.

Plus, after pulling this off, the Warriors can afford to ship Andris Biedrins and Brandan Wright to Toronto for Chris Bosh. Golden State would have Turiaf and Pryzbilla as their centers. That ain't half bad. Plus they'd be much better at the PF position.

I'd do this. If Toronto passes, you should still be able to make a move somewhere.

I traded for Crawford on my 2k9 blazers... he fits in well!

 

[acidicality]

according to mike rice, pryzbilla can take shaq on

 

[daprescription]

[h2]The Mullin ouster: How and why the Warriors played the end-game the way they did[/h2]
Posted by Tim Kawakami on May 11th, 2009 at 9:12 pm | Categorized as NBA, Warriors

This is absurdly late, since the Warriors announced the release of Chris Mullin and the elevating of Larry Riley to GM about four hours ago…

But I was doing the Comcast "Chronicle Live" show today and in fact was in the studios when the news broke (yep, I had an inkling…), so Steinmetz, Ratto, Papa and I went right into reaction mode, practically from the moment it happened, and that worked out well… except for this blog.

Then I raced home and talked to some people and then wrote a column on the development, which, again, delayed things for this blog.

I know, I know, NOBODY CARES, but I do pride myself on getting things up quickly onto this blog, especially Warriors things, and that did not happen tonight. I expect to be ripped immensely and deserve it.

Anyway… Quickly, since I am just about talked/typed out on this subject…

* Why did the Warriors make this announcement now, instead of just letting Mullin's contract quietly run out July 1 and then make the move to Riley then? It was pretty obvious this was happening, why now?

My answer: I think their plans for the upcoming May 19 lottery had something to do with it. The Warriors needed to figure out who they were sending, needed to figure it out this week, and once they decided that they were sending Riley, Robert Rowell figured they might as well just elevate him now.

I've heard that Rowell's people considered going to July 1 and for a while figured Mullin's departure would just be a blip that would soon be forgotten. But that was never realistic.

Doing it now saves the Warriors at least a few weeks of "Front-office Chaos and Silence" stories, some written by me.

Plus, Rowell, Riley and Mullin (and Don Nelson) don't have to keep going through the charade of Mullin having input-as Nelson tried and tried to sell throughout this last ridiculous season.

The draft is coming up. Did they want Mullin running the scouting meetings? It was pointless to keep up the Nellie Charade.

* Can Mullin interview with other teams now? Can he take another job?

My answer: He's still under contract, even though Rowell has announced an eventual "release." That means another team-say the Knicks or Mavericks-would have to ask for the Warriors' permission to talk to Mullin, if it's before July 1.

* Does Mullin want to immediately work again?

My answer: I think he wants to take a look-five years in the Warriors Gulag probably gave him an appetite to see what working for a normal owner might feel like.

His buddy Rod Higgins might not be in the greatest spot in the world, working as the Charlotte GM, but I'd bet he has been telling Mullin that getting away from Cohan/Rowell/Nelson isn't a terrible way to live.

* What's Mullin's response?

My answer: None that I know of, which should not be surprising since Mullin has taken an incredibly low profile sine the fireworks began in September.

His friends tell me that Mullin just felt (and still feels) he had nothing to gain by firing off blasts amid the Rowell/Nelson politics, so why say anything?

My understanding is that Mullin is traveling to Florida this week to attend the funeral of Chuck Daly, who coached him on the 1992 Dream Team.

* What's Riley's reputation around the league?

My answer: He is truly a non-entity, known mostly as the guy who worked for Stu Jackson in Vancouver (and not very well-that was a terrible team) and hooked up with Del Harris, who brought him to Dallas to work under Nelson.

Riley hooked up with Nelson and they became close pals-Riley was Nelson's first hire when Nelson got the Warriors job.

I asked one NBA exec today what he knew about Riley. His answer: "Nobody knows him. He comes to stuff, but he mostly sits by himself. All I know is he's Del's friend. And now he's Nellie's guy."

It'll be interesting to see what kind of contract Riley got. I doubt he'll avoid being the lowest-paid GM in the game and he might be lower-paid than some asst-GMs.

* Any additions to the hoops operation now that Mullin, D'Alessandro, Higgins and, I'd presume, Mitch Richmond have left or will be leaving?

My answer: I'd expect Larry Harris, now an assistant coach but formerly the Milwaukee GM, will have some front-office duties under Riley.

I'd also think Del Harris, Larry's father, would be invited in as a consultant or asst-GM, if he wants the gig. Marketing exec Travis Stanley already has assumed some player-relation responsibilities (Otis Smith's old job).

* Practically, where are the Warriors going to be hit hardest by the Mullin-to-Riley transition?

My answer: In credibility. Rowell didn't like that Mullin was friendly with agents, but Jerry West's best friends were agents, and that gave him a line into a lot of players' thinking-and into some executives' thinking, too.

It's about trust and communication when you're talking trade. When the Knicks were considering the Al Harrington-Jamal Crawford trade, their top people called Mullin and asked him if Harrington was healthy. Then they made the deal.

They would've never called Nelson. And most people now consider Riley an extension of Nelson.

And by the way, Rowell is not credible among NBA decision-makers.

* Without going into full details, when did this all start to happen between Mullin, Rowell and Nelson?

My answer: This is a weird franchise. Mullin helped make it a little normal for most of five seasons, but the weirdness was always going to creep back in.

In some ways, the 2007 playoff run was the end of the good times-Cohan and Rowell needed Mullin's credibility with the fans and the league to that point, but once they felt like they were a winning franchise, they didn't want him soaking up the credit.

Cohan and Rowell didn't trust Nelson, but they needed someone to counter-act Mullin and Nelson was all too happy to do that. Heck, Nelson was already undermining Mullin's personnel decisions, like Nelson always does to his superiors.

But I look back and realize the breakup really started when Higgins left in May 2007, for what I hear was a doubling of his salary, even though he took the same title with Charlotte. Rowell wouldn't budge on a raise for Higgins, apparently.

That was considered an insult to Mullin-his closest associate had to leave the Warriors in order to make middling NBA exec salary.

Then the Warriors never filled the GM spot. Then Pete D'Alessandro, Mullin's close friend, was elevated to asst-GM and then he was summarily fired early last season.

Rowell wanted a front office 100% loyal to him, and to nobody else, not even to winning basketball games. Cohan just didn't want to be bothered-Rowell was in there, Rowell catered to Cohan's own weirdness and Rowell was the one giving the updates to Cohan, why not just let Rowell do whatever he wanted.

Higgins was sacrificed to get that. D'Alessandro definitely was sacrificed for that. More devout Rowell believers were moved in to replace them.

As the pieces fell, it was obvious to Mullin that it wasn't going to work. Then the Baron Davis extension was vetoed last summer, Monta Ellis was treated more harshly than Mullin wanted, Rowell lashed at Mullin for his Ellis stance, Stephen Jackson was allowed to negotiate directly with Rowell, and Nelson was handed a two-year extension…

It was over then, by October. The rest was just paperwork and Rowell trying to manuever Mullin into the worst position possible, which accidentally meant putting the Warriors in the worst spot, too.

And here they are.

 

[enlightened thought]

i hate this front office.

 

[paul is on tilt]

I'm going to miss Mullin.

Rowell!

Nelson!

Cohan!

 

[acidicality]

+*$% Lucky!
+*$% DP for not shooting Lucky yet!

 

[paul is on tilt]

[h2]Here's an Interesting Trade …[/h2]
By Marcus Thompson
Saturday, May 9th, 2009 at 10:13 am in Uncategorized.

The Warriors need a place to send guard Jamal Crawford, right? How about this trade:

Crawford to Portland for C Joel Pryzbillla and PG Steve Blake.

Portland needs a help in the backcourt for Brandon Roy, who is Crawford's best friend, BTW. They maybe interested. Pryzbilla is getting $6.857 million next season and he has a player option for 2010-11 ($7.4 million). Blake has one year left at $4.9 million.

Plus, after pulling this off, the Warriors can afford to ship Andris Biedrins and Brandan Wright to Toronto for Chris Bosh. Golden State would have Turiaf and Pryzbilla as their centers. That ain't half bad. Plus they'd be much better at the PF position.

I'd do this. If Toronto passes, you should still be able to make a move somewhere.

I would trade Crawford for Pryzbilla and Blake. It's obvious that Crawford doesn't fit in with the log jam we already have here. Pryzbilla is aserviceable center who we could use (especially against Shaq... according to Mike Rice). Blake is a distributor who can knock down open jumpshots. Blake wouldfit in here. Crawford would be happy in Portland, too. He doesn't have to adjust his watch, is closer to Seattle (his home), and gets to play with his bestfriend in Brandon Roy. I just have one question, has Pyrzbilla and Blake become expendable in Portland's eyes?

I still stand by my statements in the last Warriors Season Thread. I don't want to trade for Bosh if it means giving up Biedrins and Wright. Sure, Wrighthas become somewhat expendable now that Randolph has come into the mix, but I don't want to give up Biedrins. Sure, Bosh is an all-star PF and the Warriorshave been looking for what seems an eternity for a low post scorer from the PF position, but the risk of losing out on Bosh when he becomes a free agent is alikely possibility. I'm sure we've all heard those "Bosh wants to play with either Wade or LeBron in 2010". What's the likelihood that wecan re-sign Bosh? I figure, Bosh is a rent-a-player for one season and then he bolts. And then what? We're back at square one... without Andris.

 

[paul is on tilt]

Originally Posted by acidicality

+*$% Lucky!
+*$% DP for not shooting Lucky yet!

C'mon dp! You're lagging here!

 

[acidicality]

What we're talking about basketball now?

no more girl vents?

If we can get Bosh w/o givin up Biedrins that'd be great.

 

[paul is on tilt]

Originally Posted by acidicality

What we're talking about basketball now?

no more girl vents?

OMG! What has gotten into us?

 

[dr 715]

If I were the Blazers I'd be more than hesitant to part with the Vanilla Gorilla because Greg Oden has developed veeery slooowly. Blake is another storybecause they have Rodriguez and he's not happy with his role on the team. Maybe they decide to keep Rudy's boyfriend and have him run the team.

In the words of Bill Simmons, I don't think this trade will happen because it makes too much sense.

 

[paul is on tilt]

Portland needs to have Pryzbilla because quite frankly, Oden isn't polished enough to be the starting center for the whole season for Portland. IMO,Portland's lucky to have Pryzbilla there so they can have more of like a platoon situation. If I'm Portland, I'm keeping Pryzbilla for the simplefact that Oden is still a liability in terms of health, foul-trouble, and production (or lack there of).

Steve Blake may have become expendable. Like 715 said, Rodriguez can step in for them.

 

[acidicality]

How about let's try to get Oden?

 

[dr 715]

No Ohio State bums allowed.

 

[paul is on tilt]

Originally Posted by acidicality

How about let's try to get Oden?

I just threw up a little inside my mouth.

 

[franchise 55]

I really don't think Bosh is a franchise player. I see him more as a great second option a la Pau Gasol.

 

[acidicality]

Originally Posted by Dr 715

No Ohio State bums allowed.

forgot about that.

speaking of ohio, the cleveland tourism videos are hilarious. i love the first one, when it goes, "who the %%$# still uses a payphone?"

 

[dont be a menace]

Originally Posted by Paul Is On Tilt

Originally Posted by acidicality

What we're talking about basketball now?

no more girl vents?

OMG! What has gotten into us?

no smileys from paul?

i hate our front office, coach, owner, staff and whoever else i missed. no matter how i look at trades or possibilities i still don't see it working causeof Nellie. sure we can do that Portland trade but who's to say that Nellie will let Blake start? or that Pryzbilla will play even behind Andris/Ronny. orthat AK trade, he's a good player but who's to stop Nellie from putting him in the 4 maybe even 5 position when we're getting outrebounded?

like i've always said, Nellie is the root of the downfall of the Warriors. some blame goes to RR for vetoing BD's extension but most of it goes toNelson.