Dressing Better Vol 2.0

[storm2006]

I'm sorry but what is wrong with Allen Edmonds? And what does age or income have to do with it?

Some of the garbage that gets posted in this thread is just absurd...

Are you referring to me? I said that wearing Adrian wearing AE's does not make him a Hypebeast. Furthermore, the only reason why I even mentioned his age or income was because of the juxtaposition to the statement "niidawg needs to come back and show you what dressing better really is." It's a well known fact that nii wears $2,000+ bespoke suits with John Lobb, Carmina, C&J, etc. shoes and not to mention he pushes a Vantage. If that's going to be what is described as "what dressing better really is", you simply cannot impose standards on a 22 year old, recent college graduate.

For what it's worth, I am a huge AE fan and have plenty of pairs myself. I think they are a solid and reliable shoe, regardless of income level.

 

[returnbama]

I lold

 

[sfc415]

To be fair 90% of corporate America wouldn't know the difference between a chopper suit or a slim one....in corporate America, a suit is a suit....doesn't really affect your productivity or how you are perceived, specially by these much older conservative CEOs

I've never met one well-dressed higher-up in all the companies I've worked for. At least here in the Bay Area, no one gives a @#$% what you look like as long as you produce results. OK, maybe it's a bad example since Cali is so laid back, but I visited my friend at his investment company in NYC, and there were dudes making 300K+ still rocking choppa suits and square toe shoes

 

[robin thicke]

UrBetterThanMe stays with the subtle shots and instigation. Dude tried to turn the entire thread against me a few pages back

AWARE ME BRO?

 

[urbetterthenme]

I've never met one well-dressed higher-up in all the companies I've worked for. At least here in the Bay Area, no one gives a @#$% what you look like as long as you produce results.

Correct. Its select few who execs who just so happen to work in the style industry that are always on point, but for the most part. Looks mean nothing to them dudes.

 

[urbetterthenme]

This made me laugh
[h1]How to Look Like Old Money[/h1]
Edited by Colerwilson, DifuWu, Zingzong70, Teresa and 5 others

Who doesn't want to look classy and wealthy in an understated way? Leave the bright colors and flashy logos for the nouveau riche and channel your favorite Kennedy. http://
[h2]Edit Steps[/h2]

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   Only wear clothing from the quality "food groups"; tweed, cotton, wool and cashmere. These are lasting fabrics that will hold their shape well and will not pill (develop the small balls of threads and fibers that collect on garments from wear). Avoid acrylic, rayon, polyester and other such blends.
   • Color of tops should be kept somewhat neutral. Black, beige, brown, white and pastels.
   • Sweaters and coats are best kept black because they will go with everything.
   • Wool pea-coats are something worth splurging on. They have been classy and stylish since the 1940's. It is something that you will wear for the rest of your life.
   • T-shirts, tank tops and light sweaters can be found for between $10-$25 made from quality cotton. Shop at discount stores (Saks Off-Fifth Avenue, T.J. Maxx, Marshalls, Loemans, Burlington Coat Factory, etc.) for pricier items, such as cashmere or wool sweaters.
   • Jeans are always a safe choice, just make sure that they fit well. They don't have to be designer either. Levi's are just fine for hanging out around town. Keep in mind that rhinestones on your bottom are not okay.
   • Wool or tweed pants are nice for gatherings, dinners, coffee dates, etc. Pair them with a nice blouse or sweater.
   • Avoid logos on clothing. Brand logos suggest that you have a need to impress others, however clothing without brand logos suggests confidence and security with who you are.
   • Shoes are another area that will be worth the splurge. Invest in a versatile heel, something appropriate for all occasions. Black, leather, medium heel, slight peep-toe have been the most widely used in my experience. They can be worn with everything from a little black dress, to an interview or simply out to lunch.
   • Comfortable, durable leather flats are also a great choice, Cole Haan makes them in all sorts of colors and they are available at the Cole Haan Outlet for 50-75% less than retail.
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   Most days, I wear 5 year old black and white Jack Purcells. If you are of college age or younger, wearing sneakers is totally acceptable.
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   Take care of yourself. Don't pick at skin, use whatever keeps it clear and use it consistently. Old money can afford to do what it takes to keep their skin clear and healthy (facials, Creme De La Mer, whatever).
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   Remember that oral hygiene is crucial. Brush and floss 2-3 times daily.
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   Keep nails on the short side, and natural. No fake long acrylics that destroy your natural nails. Keep polish neutral as well; beige, opaque white, light translucent pink. Don't forget about your toes, if they're going to be showing! Find a cheap salon that you can stop by 2-3 times a month.
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   Have your Highlights be fresh and as natural looking as possible. Hair can be any length as long as it's trimmed (not fried), natural colors (not pink) and styled in a tasteful way (no mohawks).
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   Tweeze/wax eyebrows to keep them neat but never too thin.
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   KISS: Keep It Simple Silly! Makeup should be kept incredibly simple. Sheer foundation, concealer where needed, easy blush, mascara and lip BALM. Not gloss. If your activities call for eyeshadow, stick to taupe and browns or pastels.
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   Dot expensive perfume on your wrists and behind your ears. Even the most pricey perfume costs a mere 35 cents a day if you go through one bottle a year. It compliments your own natural scent, you don't want to swim in it.
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    Eat right, exercise. Old money is rarely obese.
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    Accessorize! Develop signature pieces that you love (and will love for years) and wear them every day.
    • Wedding/engagement rings, diamond/pearl pendant necklaces with gold/white gold chains, Tiffany & Co. right hand rings, diamond studs (ALWAYS classy), pearl earrings. No stretched ears, quadruple piercings, etc. Keep it to one or two jewelry accessories.
    • Wear really nice jewelry with casual outfits. If you have on jeans and a nice shirt (but still casual) put on a nice pair of diamond studs and maybe a ruby (it can be fake, or just a cheap quality, but make sure it looks nice/real) ring. Remember not to brag about your nice jewelry. If you were really old money you wouldn't have to brag because it is assumed by others you can afford nice things and it is considered bad taste to brag.
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    Carry a bag that will last for years. It will save money in the long run if you have one or two bags that you will use for 20-plus years. Coach is a good choice and will repair and clean damaged purses you have purchased from them, no charge, for a lifetime. L.L. Bean totes are incredibly durable for overnight stays and beach days. Even the customized totes they make are less than $50. No big, noticeable logos.
    • A Timex Easy Reader with a leather strap can keep you from constantly digging through your purse for your cell phone to check the time. It also sends the message that you have places to be, people to see.
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    Get good sunglasses. Again, logos are overrated.
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    The most important step, be POLITE. It's a fading art, but try. Don't talk about how much money you have/don't have. Don't discuss the financial status of others. Don't lie. Think BEFORE you speak. Go with the flow. Relax! You just got back from your summer house in the Hamptons after all.

 

[typerpinoy]

jcrew 484 corduroys are $18-24 for certain colors in store.

 

[wj4]

Elkin wins at the Internet today

 

[urbetterthenme]

jcrew 484 corduroys are $18-24 for certain colors in store.

How do they fit? i see the red ones for 39.99 + the discount. Not a fan of red pants dont know how dudes rock skinny red trousers

 

[ksteezy]

When all else fails, super mega size your font, that will sure get your point across

 

[pinoy732]

The correlation between someone who dresses well meaning that they do not [cannot] excel in their field will forever baffle me. Y'all dudes

 

[ksteezy]

Quick wit da edit

 

[slicknick951]

The correlation between someone who dresses well meaning that they do not [cannot] excel in their field will forever baffle me. Y'all dudes

I think they are trying to say it really doesnt matter. So this whole argument is pretty stupid to be honest

 

[storm2006]

The correlation between someone who dresses well meaning that they do not [cannot] excel in their field will forever baffle me. Y'all dudes

I'm not sure that anyone is saying that you can't thrive if you are dapper, they're just saying that those who are currently at the top often are not dressed well 90% of the time. I think we get lost in the fact that 90% of guys don't care about their appearance or suiting nearly as much as anyone in this thread. Additionally, I think it has to do with most execs being older and therefore used to more conservative dressing. It'll be interesting to see what happens as our generation climbs the corporate ladder.

 

[urbetterthenme]

I'm not sure that anyone is saying that you can't thrive if you are dapper, they're just saying that those who are currently at the top often are not dressed well 90% of the time. I think we get lost in the fact that 90% of guys don't care about their appearance or suiting nearly as much as anyone in this thread. Additionally, I think it has to do with most execs being older and therefore used to more conservative dressing. It'll be interesting to see what happens as our generation climbs the corporate ladder.

Businesses suffer, but we'd look cool tho

 

[runyc]

 
Correct. Its select few who execs who just so happen to work in the style industry that are always on point, but for the most part. Looks mean nothing to them dudes.

From my experience, the  "dress better" vs. do not dress better debate depends on who their end client is. An executive who works in a client facing sales job is more likely to "dress better" because they are selling their image as part of their service. There are varying degrees even at this level because of style variation - some may prefer the "Ascot Chang" stylish look while others may prefer a less flashy "Paul Stewart" look. Albeit, there are price differences in the two, I would consider both "dressing better"

Bill Gates does not have to wear a nice suit every day because it's not part of the image he's trying to sell and I would go as far to say that it would "put off" customers and shareholders if they did see him in one everyday 

 

[notoriousmro]

Skeezy comes back and the thread goes to crap again. Go back to doing handstands.

 

[urbetterthenme]

 
From my experience, the  "dress better" vs. do not dress better debate depends on who their end client is. An executive who works in a client facing sales job is more likely to "dress better" because they are selling their image as part of their service. There are varying degrees even at this level because of style variation - some may prefer the "Ascot Chang" stylish look while others may prefer a less flashy "Paul Stewart" look. Albeit, there are price differences in the two, I would consider both "dressing better"

Bill Gates does not have to wear a nice suit every day because it's not part of the image he's trying to sell and I would go as far to say that it would "put off" customers and shareholders if they did see him in one everyday 

You are correct. In a direct customer related situation your more likely to find a exec dressed better.

 

[Chopper]

#ntextremes.

No one is suggesting you should be a dapper dresser in corporate America. What I'm saying is you should be well dressed. A suit that fits (if a suit is called for) in which the sleeves don't cover your knuckles, a tie with a decent knot, and shirt that fits, and a pair of decent shoes with leather soles should do the trick. Again, being GQ isn't necessary, but being well dressed is important to many more than some are suggesting (at least in many industries - law offices, accounting firms, old school consumer goods companies, manufacturing, consulting, etc). 

As others have stated this obviously varies by industry.

 

[Stay Lowkey]

My man had a field day on you boys today Exactly what he wanted I bet

 

[wj4]

My man had a field day on you boys today Exactly what he wanted I bet

Cues the MJ popcorn gif you posted yesterday

 

[typerpinoy]

jcrew 484 corduroys are $18-24 for certain colors in store.

How do they fit? i see the red ones for 39.99 + the discount. Not a fan of red pants dont know how dudes rock skinny red trousers

slim slim slim

 

[urbetterthenme]

 
I USED TO ROCK SHEMAGHS LIKE A HIPSTER 

BUT JUST COP FROM UNIQLO. THEY GET THE JOB DONE. STYLISH, AND COST LESS THAN 20

man those were the ye days bruh. HAd everyone rocking that stuff. I had one but never knew how to tie it right smh.

 

[urbetterthenme]

I'm telling yall more people would post here if yall didn't act all bougie

 

[robin thicke]

THE LORD YOUR GOD WELCOMES ALL NTERS WHO WISH TO DRESS BETTER.