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So you post an brief article that has nothing to do with this topic, instead of asking him to elaborate on how he feels about race vs. ethnicity in Latin America?
Keep ignoring the point
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I WANT TO ENCOURAGE A MORE CONSTRUCTIVE DISCUSSION OVER RACE RELATIONS ON NT
Keep ignoring the point
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Oh rly?...so what's the argument then? Because that's been my stance from the jump
You see how dumb this whole argument really is?
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"Everything isn't black and white" do you really not see the irony in this
how is it ironic? im stating that you cant just be latino because that is ignorant. you will still face racism anywhere you go. you will still be categorized. like people are saying latino is and never will be a race. it is a mix of race/ethnicity.
maybe ninjahood will understand this analogy, if you buy a bmw and do the ls swap, is it still a full bmw? no, now it is a different car with different components. it doesn't mean it still isn't a bmw.
which is all we are saying, you are more bmw (african) but with some other (spanish,taino etc.)
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My dude really think he discovered the new world with all these videos, proving something that no one is debating...YES THERE ARE BLACK PEOPLE IN LATIN AMERICA :x
Ya really need to understand the meaning of a word under different context.
Ya really need to understand the meaning of a word under different context.
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You never cosigned that, but you haven't said a peep to Ninja when he was spewing that ignorance, are not checking him now, but was quick to his defense when you thought people were going at him about the Latinos thing
And quote me acting like text you bolded. I need to be reminded when I was acting that way. Please I'm not going to defend myself against things I haven't none, or any other false narrative.
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I wanna see this now.
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Bro I personally have never disputed that and you can go through all my posts if you'd like.
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if you never have disputed it then why don't you tell that to ninjahood instead of going at us.
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Bro when I say "you" I don't really mean you, I'm addressing the opposition to what I'm saying....if you've never felt this way, don't feel like I'm directing it towards you.
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How the hell I'm I suppose to know that famb
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I think the issue here is the distinction between fact and opinion.
People using the term African American incorrectly to describe Black is not proof that Black and African American are the same thing.
People using the term African American incorrectly to describe Black is not proof that Black and African American are the same thing.
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Because the man has admitted to having black/African roots in him....look at him...the only thing I'm standing by is his right to self-identify as simply LATINO...and how none of you have the right to tell him he must identify as black if he chooses not to....because in his culture and surroundings the term black has often times been affiliated with AfricanAmerican culture which is different than his Latino culture....my wife is black, but she identifies as a Latina....she doesn't go around identifying as a black Latina, or Afro-Latina, she simply identifies as Latina but that doesn't mean she refuting her African descent....just to her in America there is black (African American) culture and then there is Latino culture....is she wrong if she wanted to self-identify as black?...no, as Afro-Latina?...no, as simply Latina?....no.
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i just don't get how ksteezy is saying that no one is refuting that. when it's clear his boy is clearly only identifying as latin.
plenty of people have told ksteezy to address that with ninjahood on this forum. and yet has completely ignored the request/
plenty of people have told ksteezy to address that with ninjahood on this forum. and yet has completely ignored the request/
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You are just supposed to.
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Amidst all the BS in here I have a legitimate question...
So I'm white. I've noticed my mother tends to act differently around black people or when talking about black people. It's not in a racist way, but I can tell she's a little unsure of herself in certain situations. For example, she referred to someone as an "African American man". The way she said it was just awkward. I know she was trying to be PC. But I told her, "mom, it's ok to just say black now." She also used the term "mulatto" recently and I told her I think that is a derogatory term and the proper thing to say is "mixed". I just want to know if I advised my mother correctly here. On being PC in 2016...
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He has a right to identify as Latino if that's what he chooses to do....same way he has the right to identify as black, African, Afro-Latino, because as a Latino he is all those things....WE ARE A MIX....if the label of Latino to him superceeds everything else, you really have no right to tell him otherwise.
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i guess we will never break the chain. black=/=african american. it's just the visual as someone stated. and the fact that he doesn't want to be seen as black then it is strange. it is his fault for thinking there is a something wrong with being black (at thats how it comes off)
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i have no right. but he has no right to call others black as well. if you didn't read that post he typed about how blacks are having low birth rates due to being imprisoned, abortion, murders but that comes off very ignorant because that doesn't only pertain to blacks.
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I think that's a conclusion you guys came to, that because he doesn't embrace the label of black before his Latino label, that he's somehow ashamed or racist....has he flat out said "I hate black people and the color of my skin?"
Aware me please.
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it seems like ninjahood only wants to be part of black america when it fits his needs.
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Reminds me of my daughter's mother's godmother who's older Italian woman first time she met me she referred to me as "oriental" like I'm a rug or something
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See and this was touched on some 10 pages back, that because him as a black Latino doesn't embrace the term black then he has no right labeling others black as if it automatically puts a negative stigma on the term.
Like that study that concluded that the life expectancy of white American men has decreased, should a Lighskinned latino be concerned?...does he fall under the criteria of white American? I'm seriously looking for someone to shed some light on this, that's why at the beginning of this thread I wanted to stay away from the black Angle of this debate and focus on the White angle since we come in both, and discussing the white aspect of Latinos might be less sensitive.
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Like?
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my mother is an older Italian women. I was a little nervous introducing my gf to her but it went well.
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IMO the best way to make sure you use the correct term is to ask the person but in situations you're not able to I think Black person, Black American, African American are all cool and mixed is as well I guess although I can't be to sure about the mixed thing because I don't have the life experiences of someone who is mixed so they might feel differently about it.
And if I had to speak on why she was unsure of what to say is because throughout her lifetime she's seen what people call minorities in this country change so much she just doesn't really know what the proper term is and is nervous of being wrong. Like my fathers birth certificate says colored...not black colored. The only term for a race that has stayed consistent is White. (expect for that one time they tried to go by Caucasian but the supreme court changed that).
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