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QFT and that's an understatement
If Kanye's next album is a classic, is he the GOAT?
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QFT and that's an understatement
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Originally Posted by Damu
it's very hard to consider somebody g.o.a.t when they have 0 classic albums
I was thinking the same thing
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WE CAN GO ALBUM VS ALBUM OR TRACK VS TRACK PAC WILL ALWAYS DEFEAT KANYE
qft! kids these days I tell ya.
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Originally Posted by mossman75
Originally Posted by Damu
it's very hard to consider somebody g.o.a.t when they have 0 classic albums
QFT
i was waiting for someone to say this
Now yall saying Ye has no classics?
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qft! kids these days I tell ya.
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LOL @ these Pac stans.
Stop living off the man's mystique.
When it's all said and done, Kanye's contributions to music > his.
Flame on.
Stop living off the man's mystique.
When it's all said and done, Kanye's contributions to music > his.
Flame on.
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GOAT can be interpreted in different ways, so I'm not gonna touch on that. Kanye has always been a pretty meh rapper, his lyrics really aren't all that. However, you can't deny the impact he's had on hip-hop over these past few years. No other urban artist is seeing Kanye in terms of that.
Obviously as rapper he's not seeing Jay, Nas, Rakim, and all those guys. But solely an artist he's leaps and bounds past those guys and by far the best hip-hop artist of the new millennium.
Obviously as rapper he's not seeing Jay, Nas, Rakim, and all those guys. But solely an artist he's leaps and bounds past those guys and by far the best hip-hop artist of the new millennium.
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Says the guy with Kanye in his avy
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Clearly alot of people don't see eye to eye on this issue. I can't hate. His work on the boards is undeniable. Since the late 90's he's put in some work. Ok. But this greatest ever *%$+ doesn't really make sense to me.
And dudes always talkin bout influence everytime you bring up Kanye, but Rakim has influenced everybody to pick up a mic since the late 80's. So chill.
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I give props to you for a legitimate response.Originally Posted by letsgetit22
Says the guy with Kanye in his avyIt's not about whose a stan or not, its about being real. Kanye is a great artist but I doubt any of his songs will make it in the library of congress or the vatican. I doubt his lyrics or his importance in pop culture will be a subject at a university. IMO He will never be able to top Pac's contribution to not only music but to popular culture. IMO Kanye has not made music that will change someone's personal life.
Don't get me wrong, I have Pac music in my iPod. I appreciate what he's done for music during the 90's.
But to this day, I strongly believe Pac is/was glorified 1000x because of his death. Dude became a messiah after it.
You can't say Kanye has not made contributions to popular culture. That's ridiculous. I don't even have to dwell into that point.
Kanye is already a staple in popular culture.
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I disagree. People praised Pac while he was living, I just believe people take more time to reflect on how great you were once you die. Michael Jackson, and Jimi Hendrix are great examples of that. I guarantee once Prince dies, people will glorify him way more. btw I didn't say Kanye hasn't made any contributions, I'm saying it's not on the same level as Pac's.Originally Posted by i LyricaLJKilla i
I give props to you for a legitimate response.Originally Posted by letsgetit22
Says the guy with Kanye in his avyIt's not about whose a stan or not, its about being real. Kanye is a great artist but I doubt any of his songs will make it in the library of congress or the vatican. I doubt his lyrics or his importance in pop culture will be a subject at a university. IMO He will never be able to top Pac's contribution to not only music but to popular culture. IMO Kanye has not made music that will change someone's personal life.
Don't get me wrong, I have Pac music in my iPod. I appreciate what he's done for music during the 90's.
But to this day, I strongly believe Pac is/was glorified 1000x because of his death. Dude became a messiah after it.
You can't say Kanye has not made contributions to popular culture. That's ridiculous. I don't even have to dwell into that point.
Kanye is already a staple in popular culture.
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Originally Posted by Ballerific703
qft! kids these days I tell ya.
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This thread is +%+%*@$ asinine. Can't believe some of the *+*# in the last few pages.
This is the new "...but my best friend is black!"
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Some of you **@+!@ need to be slapped
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Why are yall even wasting your time arguing with such idiots?
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Dudes are gonna realize Kanye is the closest thing to "progression" in the rap game than Pac or Big or Jay ever was. Maybe when he dies or when he stop doing music... but ya'll are going to realize it.
Who you think all these blog rappers wanna be like at some point or another? I'll wait.
The game has changed. No point in acting like it hasnt.
Who you think all these blog rappers wanna be like at some point or another? I'll wait.
The game has changed. No point in acting like it hasnt.
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Name the Pac albums you listened and rank them compared to kanyes and lets see. Kanye has 1 classic to me which is Late Registration. A very good albums in college dropout and dark twisted fantasy. A Good album in graduation. Pac has a 100% classics in 7 Day Theory and Me Against The World. All the other OG pac albums I would rank around Very Good. And Even some of his posthumus albums like Until The End of Time are really good. Dude had material for days and with no real big features. Kanye has been known to have tons of features on his joints. Hell look at this new one.
People forget Pac was a LEGIT THESPIAN. Kanye wishes he was a thespian.
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Realize what we all agree he is really good and top 5 right now. But to argue he is the top 5 rapper in the last 30 years? C'mon THE LAST 30 YEARS. Do you think Kanye is better than the following rappers:
Tupac
Jay-z
Nas
Eminem
Biggie
Outkast (as a group which is a fair way to judge this)
All of the following people have more than 1 classic album where Kanye does not.
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Artist? Yes.
Rapper...as in rapping ability? No.
I'm not budging on that.
Plus, Tupac is rated too highly as a rapper IMO. As an artist I think his position is justified.
