iPhone 4 vs. Evo 4G: Battle of 720p!

Originally Posted by CIDMAN911

I gotta be one of the few people that actually enjoys watching iStans make fools of themselves in threads like this.

Denial is a feminine canine.

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It is rather comedic. People will stand by the iPhone no matter what!
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I am giving both a test run...had EVO on launch day, iphone coming in later today.

Unless you've had both and tried them out to see what best works for you, basing an opinion on some blogger's opinion is flat out dumb.
 
I am giving both a test run...had EVO on launch day, iphone coming in later today.

Unless you've had both and tried them out to see what best works for you, basing an opinion on some blogger's opinion is flat out dumb.
 
Originally Posted by grittyman20

I am giving both a test run...had EVO on launch day, iphone coming in later today.

Unless you've had both and tried them out to see what best works for you, basing an opinion on some blogger's opinion is flat out dumb.

THIS

It's all subjective.  I rarely use the camera on my iphone 3gs and its not because it is low quality its because i am a male....i never have a need to take pictures.  Picture quality matters to some and doesn't to others.
 
Originally Posted by grittyman20

I am giving both a test run...had EVO on launch day, iphone coming in later today.

Unless you've had both and tried them out to see what best works for you, basing an opinion on some blogger's opinion is flat out dumb.

THIS

It's all subjective.  I rarely use the camera on my iphone 3gs and its not because it is low quality its because i am a male....i never have a need to take pictures.  Picture quality matters to some and doesn't to others.
 
Wow, didn't think the thread would blow up so quick over night
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, to be fair, some developers over at XDA say it's merely a software issue that can be updated. The most obvious reason is HTC compresses the video soo much due to the phone being equipped with a 2GB card and writing to it is very slow (class 2) compare to the iPhone built in 16GB or 32GB which can write to is MUCH faster, and doesn't have to compress it much to fit. Also, just gotta improve the bitrate. iPhone does. H.264, Evo does H.263.
Software. Also note that the iPhone does technically record 20+ fps video, it is doubling frames, so a lot of the time its only actually capturing 15-20fps and then doubling some of the frames. Once we get full kernel source, we can overclock the camera chip the same way we kinda did for the Nexus and improve the bitrate, audio quality, and video fps.
 
Wow, didn't think the thread would blow up so quick over night
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, to be fair, some developers over at XDA say it's merely a software issue that can be updated. The most obvious reason is HTC compresses the video soo much due to the phone being equipped with a 2GB card and writing to it is very slow (class 2) compare to the iPhone built in 16GB or 32GB which can write to is MUCH faster, and doesn't have to compress it much to fit. Also, just gotta improve the bitrate. iPhone does. H.264, Evo does H.263.
Software. Also note that the iPhone does technically record 20+ fps video, it is doubling frames, so a lot of the time its only actually capturing 15-20fps and then doubling some of the frames. Once we get full kernel source, we can overclock the camera chip the same way we kinda did for the Nexus and improve the bitrate, audio quality, and video fps.
 
Originally Posted by IHeartBoost

Wow, didn't think the thread would blow up so quick over night
eek.gif
, to be fair, some developers over at XDA say it's merely a software issue that can be updated. The most obvious reason is HTC compresses the video soo much due to the phone being equipped with a 2GB card and writing to it is very slow (class 2) compare to the iPhone built in 16GB or 32GB which can write to is MUCH faster, and doesn't have to compress it much to fit. Also, just gotta improve the bitrate. iPhone does. H.264, Evo does H.263.
Software. Also note that the iPhone does technically record 20+ fps video, it is doubling frames, so a lot of the time its only actually capturing 15-20fps and then doubling some of the frames. Once we get full kernel source, we can overclock the camera chip the same way we kinda did for the Nexus and improve the bitrate, audio quality, and video fps.

Can't wait. I'm actually gonna do a full root today there is a rom out now that gives you ridiculous battery life and i need that 60 fps for Asphalt 3D
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Originally Posted by IHeartBoost

Wow, didn't think the thread would blow up so quick over night
eek.gif
, to be fair, some developers over at XDA say it's merely a software issue that can be updated. The most obvious reason is HTC compresses the video soo much due to the phone being equipped with a 2GB card and writing to it is very slow (class 2) compare to the iPhone built in 16GB or 32GB which can write to is MUCH faster, and doesn't have to compress it much to fit. Also, just gotta improve the bitrate. iPhone does. H.264, Evo does H.263.
Software. Also note that the iPhone does technically record 20+ fps video, it is doubling frames, so a lot of the time its only actually capturing 15-20fps and then doubling some of the frames. Once we get full kernel source, we can overclock the camera chip the same way we kinda did for the Nexus and improve the bitrate, audio quality, and video fps.

Can't wait. I'm actually gonna do a full root today there is a rom out now that gives you ridiculous battery life and i need that 60 fps for Asphalt 3D
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Google & Verizon needs to come out with an Ad that says "Holding your phone and making a call... Droid Does!... then fade to a silhouette of the iPhone 4"

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Google & Verizon needs to come out with an Ad that says "Holding your phone and making a call... Droid Does!... then fade to a silhouette of the iPhone 4"

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 & i thought Apple had the worst fanboys..
look at all these Android stans defending their precious phones..

& talking about phones that arent even out yet? droid x > iphone? 
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 & i thought Apple had the worst fanboys..
look at all these Android stans defending their precious phones..

& talking about phones that arent even out yet? droid x > iphone? 
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Originally Posted by ninjahood


iPhone 4 models dropping calls when held left-handed, including ours (video)

By Richard Lai posted Jun 24th 2010 7:53AM

Hands-On


15diggsdigg What's more annoying than spending hours lining up for a shiny new gadget? Learning that your precious phone can't actually connect to the network. Well, depending on how you hold it -- word has it that the iPhone 4's bottom-left corner isn't playing nice with your skin. If you recall from the keynote, that's where the Bluetooth / WiFi / GPS antenna meets its GSM / UMTS counterpart. So we decided to test on two brand new iPhone 4 handsets purchased today in the UK.

One iPhone 4 demonstrated the issue everytime it was held in our left hand (as a right-handed person is apt to do) so that our palm was essentially bridging the two antennas. You can see that in the video after the break. Bridging the two with a finger tip, however, didn't cause any issues with the reported reception. If we had to guess, we'd say that our conductive skin was acting to detune the antenna -- in fact, we've already managed to slowly kill two calls that way so it's not just an issue with the software erroneously reporting an incorrect signal strength. That said, we had no issues when Apple's $29 rubber bumper accessory (given to us free for standing in line) was attached, creating a buffer between our palm and the antennas. See the video evidence after the break including Insanely Great Mac's version which got us to worrying in the first place.

P.S. Don't forget to take our poll and let us know if you're seeing both the yellow spots / stripes and reception issues. Unfortunately, we're suffering from both flaws which is not a good sign for quality control on this first batch of Apple handsets.

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Apple just corrected this problem a few minutes ago...

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Oh, NT is gettin credit if this one gets jacked. #$#% that...
 
Originally Posted by ninjahood


iPhone 4 models dropping calls when held left-handed, including ours (video)

By Richard Lai posted Jun 24th 2010 7:53AM

Hands-On


15diggsdigg What's more annoying than spending hours lining up for a shiny new gadget? Learning that your precious phone can't actually connect to the network. Well, depending on how you hold it -- word has it that the iPhone 4's bottom-left corner isn't playing nice with your skin. If you recall from the keynote, that's where the Bluetooth / WiFi / GPS antenna meets its GSM / UMTS counterpart. So we decided to test on two brand new iPhone 4 handsets purchased today in the UK.

One iPhone 4 demonstrated the issue everytime it was held in our left hand (as a right-handed person is apt to do) so that our palm was essentially bridging the two antennas. You can see that in the video after the break. Bridging the two with a finger tip, however, didn't cause any issues with the reported reception. If we had to guess, we'd say that our conductive skin was acting to detune the antenna -- in fact, we've already managed to slowly kill two calls that way so it's not just an issue with the software erroneously reporting an incorrect signal strength. That said, we had no issues when Apple's $29 rubber bumper accessory (given to us free for standing in line) was attached, creating a buffer between our palm and the antennas. See the video evidence after the break including Insanely Great Mac's version which got us to worrying in the first place.

P.S. Don't forget to take our poll and let us know if you're seeing both the yellow spots / stripes and reception issues. Unfortunately, we're suffering from both flaws which is not a good sign for quality control on this first batch of Apple handsets.

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Apple just corrected this problem a few minutes ago...

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Spoiler [+]
Oh, NT is gettin credit if this one gets jacked. #$#% that...
 
not gonna front the rubber gloves ad was funny. i don't have that problem with my iphone 4 tho. lol nonetheless.
 
not gonna front the rubber gloves ad was funny. i don't have that problem with my iphone 4 tho. lol nonetheless.
 
Update 19: Reader Henry suggests putting some nail polish to see if it insulates and blocks the connection between the two pieces.
It seems to me that if you applied a bit of clear nail polish to the bridge between the two antennas on the iPhone, there would be no debilitating connection. The clear nail polish would barely be noticeable.

This does rely on an assumption: the problems are caused by the two antennas being electrically connected as you hold the phone. As far as electromagnetic interference in the LF/HF spectrum, I don't know. If that's the problem, it obviously won't help.

Also, worth keeping in mind: nail polish based on nitrocellulose in an organic solvent is highly flammable. Nitrocellulose itself is the primary ingredient in most smokeless powders. I would suggest using a newer polymer-based nail polish. If using the latter, be careful with the dosage, as it is based on a conductive solvent. This paragraph makes the venture sound high risk, but really, I've used nail polish on several CPUs, with no major problems.


So if anyone tests this out and it does fix the issue, let me know!

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Update 19: Reader Henry suggests putting some nail polish to see if it insulates and blocks the connection between the two pieces.
It seems to me that if you applied a bit of clear nail polish to the bridge between the two antennas on the iPhone, there would be no debilitating connection. The clear nail polish would barely be noticeable.

This does rely on an assumption: the problems are caused by the two antennas being electrically connected as you hold the phone. As far as electromagnetic interference in the LF/HF spectrum, I don't know. If that's the problem, it obviously won't help.

Also, worth keeping in mind: nail polish based on nitrocellulose in an organic solvent is highly flammable. Nitrocellulose itself is the primary ingredient in most smokeless powders. I would suggest using a newer polymer-based nail polish. If using the latter, be careful with the dosage, as it is based on a conductive solvent. This paragraph makes the venture sound high risk, but really, I've used nail polish on several CPUs, with no major problems.


So if anyone tests this out and it does fix the issue, let me know!

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Android stans are worse than Apple fans because the flock like birds to any and every iPhone thread they see. Their phone sucks compared to it so they want to bring other people down. Pathetic
 
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