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Originally Posted by keepzdasneakz
I think I know what Lupe is saying, but he just came off a bit too strong...Hip hop's influence doesn't extend to just youth either. Look at all these bums out here nowadays thinking they can rap when all they're doing is writing down garbage rhymes and leeching off whoever to pursue that life
Originally Posted by keepzdasneakz
I think I know what Lupe is saying, but he just came off a bit too strong...Hip hop's influence doesn't extend to just youth either. Look at all these bums out here nowadays thinking they can rap when all they're doing is writing down garbage rhymes and leeching off whoever to pursue that life
yuku ftl
yuku ftl
HankMoody wrote:
It will always be the parents' fault first and foremost... people don't learn because education is not valued in the household. Look at other cultures and educational success rates. It's ingrained in the child's head by those closest to them. People overplay the significance of a show or song while undervaluing the importance of a good parent.
Edit: Lupe should know this first and foremost. Read up on his childhood. Blaming teachers or rappers is a cop-out. It's pathetic.
Exactly i dont see how as esp black ppl began to become single parent households, less time interacting with kids, single parents making more money now and the ever rising trend of 50k a yr living like 100k a year coorelates wth whats going on in society i dont know what to say.
How is the lil wayne fault that a parent buys they baby clothing and shoes they dont even concept or no what they are instead of the baby can read series? Yall are saying its rick ross fault that instead of speanding money on a trip that will enrich there minds, they go out and buy a 52 inch 3d tv? Jeezy is the cause of instead of parents cooking at home and having a family dinner where everyone discuss their day life etc, parent ops for mckie dees, plop the food infront of kid, turn to cartoon network, leave the kid unattending in there rooms, and go on the other side of the house and twit, facebooking etc. Plies is the reason parents say i want you to go to college i believe in you etc... but dont ssave for there college fund, and use said money on a car thats out they budget,going out on the weekend while the grandparents,other parent watch the kids.
I cant see how gucci mane is the reason parents will buy their kid the latest grand theft auto, but not rosetta stone. Please explain to me how waka flocka music makes a parent not be a volunteer at the kids school, help them with homework, be apart of pta, have a working relationship with the teaching/school staff. So its t.i. cd that makes a single mother suffer from parent alienating syndrome. Nicki Minaj music stops parents from not spending money on useless things and prevent them from taking trips/vacations etc to different places states countries, to get exposure to other cultures. A parent was going to make they child go check out and read a book a week everyweek until she popped in that drake cd, is that what ppl are saying?
Ppl keep talking about kids in that teenage preteen demographic, but guess what kids arent 15 at birth. Its parenting,decisions, environment etc which lead to this preteen teen to this detrimental state. A kid who said f school, chances are school wasnt emphasized as far back as k/pre k. A kid who think reading is lame chances are didnt read or was read to as a child. A kid who doesnt believe in themself as far as postsecondary education, chances are parents live nice, or give the illusion that they do, and didnt attend post secondary college, and also dont emphasize the importnce from day one, also probably havent finacially and socially prepared kid for it. A kid who seeks love guidance etc from the streets, chances are arent getting that and attention from home? A girl who grew up hearing and seeing her moms dog/use men degrade baby daddy, think its all about getting money, taken to decent places, shopping etc.. from day one. And shows no proof that it takes education/hardwork to achieve things.
Iuno why ppl think a kid who parents have no education, no one around them does, but yet instill live fab lives, dont instill values etc eucation, a moral compass, expect after a decade, decade in a half it just suppose to just change like the flip of a light switch. Its like having a dog for 12 yrs never played with him never properly trained him spend time with him, then take him in the house and suprise he isnt house broken and peeing everywhere, runs lose and wild in the streets, and chewing up everything in sight.
HankMoody wrote:
It will always be the parents' fault first and foremost... people don't learn because education is not valued in the household. Look at other cultures and educational success rates. It's ingrained in the child's head by those closest to them. People overplay the significance of a show or song while undervaluing the importance of a good parent.
Edit: Lupe should know this first and foremost. Read up on his childhood. Blaming teachers or rappers is a cop-out. It's pathetic.
Exactly i dont see how as esp black ppl began to become single parent households, less time interacting with kids, single parents making more money now and the ever rising trend of 50k a yr living like 100k a year coorelates wth whats going on in society i dont know what to say.
How is the lil wayne fault that a parent buys they baby clothing and shoes they dont even concept or no what they are instead of the baby can read series? Yall are saying its rick ross fault that instead of speanding money on a trip that will enrich there minds, they go out and buy a 52 inch 3d tv? Jeezy is the cause of instead of parents cooking at home and having a family dinner where everyone discuss their day life etc, parent ops for mckie dees, plop the food infront of kid, turn to cartoon network, leave the kid unattending in there rooms, and go on the other side of the house and twit, facebooking etc. Plies is the reason parents say i want you to go to college i believe in you etc... but dont ssave for there college fund, and use said money on a car thats out they budget,going out on the weekend while the grandparents,other parent watch the kids.
I cant see how gucci mane is the reason parents will buy their kid the latest grand theft auto, but not rosetta stone. Please explain to me how waka flocka music makes a parent not be a volunteer at the kids school, help them with homework, be apart of pta, have a working relationship with the teaching/school staff. So its t.i. cd that makes a single mother suffer from parent alienating syndrome. Nicki Minaj music stops parents from not spending money on useless things and prevent them from taking trips/vacations etc to different places states countries, to get exposure to other cultures. A parent was going to make they child go check out and read a book a week everyweek until she popped in that drake cd, is that what ppl are saying?
Ppl keep talking about kids in that teenage preteen demographic, but guess what kids arent 15 at birth. Its parenting,decisions, environment etc which lead to this preteen teen to this detrimental state. A kid who said f school, chances are school wasnt emphasized as far back as k/pre k. A kid who think reading is lame chances are didnt read or was read to as a child. A kid who doesnt believe in themself as far as postsecondary education, chances are parents live nice, or give the illusion that they do, and didnt attend post secondary college, and also dont emphasize the importnce from day one, also probably havent finacially and socially prepared kid for it. A kid who seeks love guidance etc from the streets, chances are arent getting that and attention from home? A girl who grew up hearing and seeing her moms dog/use men degrade baby daddy, think its all about getting money, taken to decent places, shopping etc.. from day one. And shows no proof that it takes education/hardwork to achieve things.
Iuno why ppl think a kid who parents have no education, no one around them does, but yet instill live fab lives, dont instill values etc eucation, a moral compass, expect after a decade, decade in a half it just suppose to just change like the flip of a light switch. Its like having a dog for 12 yrs never played with him never properly trained him spend time with him, then take him in the house and suprise he isnt house broken and peeing everywhere, runs lose and wild in the streets, and chewing up everything in sight.
very well expressed.Originally Posted by Honest Abe Lives
If I were a betting man, I would not bet on the upliftment of the urban community. And when I say urban, I don't just mean black. I mean black, hispanic, south east asian, everyone in the struggle.
Why? Well the main reason is that many people cannot get beyond a victimized mindset. Is the world unfair? Yes. Are some born with much better odds than others? Yes. Those are the harsh realities of the situation.
But how do you react to that? Do you say - "well someone should fix this situation!" Sure, you could. But that's not productive. That doesn't do anything. Nobody will fix it. Because winners never care about the losers. Not in sports, not in entertainment, not in society, not in America. Even if they won by starting with an unfair advantage. They just don't because there is no real incentive to.
So once you understand that nobody is going to give you any REAL sustainable help, what do you do? You just have to work your @%+ off.
But you don't. Because you're distracted. And part of that distraction is the mainstream hip-hop image.
It's not hip-hop's fault, but unfortunately hip-hop IS unwittingly part of the problem.
very well expressed.Originally Posted by Honest Abe Lives
If I were a betting man, I would not bet on the upliftment of the urban community. And when I say urban, I don't just mean black. I mean black, hispanic, south east asian, everyone in the struggle.
Why? Well the main reason is that many people cannot get beyond a victimized mindset. Is the world unfair? Yes. Are some born with much better odds than others? Yes. Those are the harsh realities of the situation.
But how do you react to that? Do you say - "well someone should fix this situation!" Sure, you could. But that's not productive. That doesn't do anything. Nobody will fix it. Because winners never care about the losers. Not in sports, not in entertainment, not in society, not in America. Even if they won by starting with an unfair advantage. They just don't because there is no real incentive to.
So once you understand that nobody is going to give you any REAL sustainable help, what do you do? You just have to work your @%+ off.
But you don't. Because you're distracted. And part of that distraction is the mainstream hip-hop image.
It's not hip-hop's fault, but unfortunately hip-hop IS unwittingly part of the problem.
Originally Posted by wawaweewa
Lupe is absolutely right.
Hip Hop is more "real" than school. Especially the schools which operate our current education system.
Hip Hop offers a glimpse of a slice of society. Whether you like it or not is a different story.
Originally Posted by wawaweewa
Lupe is absolutely right.
Hip Hop is more "real" than school. Especially the schools which operate our current education system.
Hip Hop offers a glimpse of a slice of society. Whether you like it or not is a different story.
Originally Posted by ThorrocksJs
Lupe is completely wrong about that school books being antiquated. Teaching kids how to grow plants won't teach them how to write up a contract or set up a business plan.Or teach them figures of speech and what not.Those antiquated history books are to inform folks of the past and of how conflicts can be settled.Its imo for prevention nobody wants another ww3 or vietnam.Most people learn their rights and what the amendments are through those antiquated text books.That knowledge of shapes angles and geometry get applied when people work even the most basic manual labor jobs. Lupe is the main person talking about be the next bill gates,maya angelou and what not but at the same time he is telling kids yall don't need that yall need to be able to farm and work basic jobs.Dude contradicted himself bad.
Originally Posted by ThorrocksJs
Lupe is completely wrong about that school books being antiquated. Teaching kids how to grow plants won't teach them how to write up a contract or set up a business plan.Or teach them figures of speech and what not.Those antiquated history books are to inform folks of the past and of how conflicts can be settled.Its imo for prevention nobody wants another ww3 or vietnam.Most people learn their rights and what the amendments are through those antiquated text books.That knowledge of shapes angles and geometry get applied when people work even the most basic manual labor jobs. Lupe is the main person talking about be the next bill gates,maya angelou and what not but at the same time he is telling kids yall don't need that yall need to be able to farm and work basic jobs.Dude contradicted himself bad.