Islamic Extremist have the entire world scared.

[shoes n basketball]

Originally Posted by Cz7

How crazy and absurd is this. Islam in every form is just as untrue as any other religion, its followers are just as misguided and illusional, if not more so, than any other religion. Why are so afraid to say so? This exactly what the jihadist and extremist want.

 

  

 

[shoes n basketball]

Originally Posted by Cz7

How crazy and absurd is this. Islam in every form is just as untrue as any other religion, its followers are just as misguided and illusional, if not more so, than any other religion. Why are so afraid to say so? This exactly what the jihadist and extremist want.

 

  

 

[thunderchunk69]

no, southpark didnt go over the line

it's comedy, they're not supposed to worry about what everyone else thinks, they're supposed to do what THEY think is funny.

 

[krispacinla]

^^^Real Talk meng. Islam is just maaphen ROFL!

 

[hieu23]

someone link us to last nights episode of south park

 

[cz7]

Originally Posted by Shoes N BasketBall

Originally Posted by Cz7

How crazy and absurd is this. Islam in every form is just as untrue as any other religion, its followers are just as misguided and illusional, if not more so, than any other religion. Why are so afraid to say so? This exactly what the jihadist and extremist want.

 

  

If you are a Muslim then that is SOME defense of your faith. A stoneface, whew, that surely debunks everything I said.

 

[bottom74bottom]

Originally Posted by moneymike88

Originally Posted by BOTTOM74BOTTOM

Originally Posted by shatterkneesinc

Originally Posted by BOTTOM74BOTTOM

Originally Posted by Je Ne Sais Quoi

The episode was about censorship, free speech, and criticism. NOTHING is above criticism, not even Islam. Free speech is a fundamental right and shouldn't be threatened by violence.

Free speech isn't a fundamental right, it's an American right; one of the many overly presumptuous and arrogant ones we enjoy at our own risk.. Understand that. If we didn't have the might to defend it, it wouldn't be tolerated. And just because it is tolerated, doesn't mean it's inherently "right", despite the play on words in calling it that. Now I'm not picking sides, I'm just saying where I'm from you can get your head split for what yo say....and yeah they might catch theguy that did it, but that ain't gon do +!$! for your wig now is it? That's just how the world is when you break it all down. Society as we know it is as stable as the most volatile nation is aggressive and its boundaries are set by the nation most dominant. Facts..

I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

You sure? Look again.

only mooks take semantics so seriously

you know what the #%%+ he meant

 Step your comprehension up instead of throwing around insults. What semantics? This is simple rhetoric.

 

[mo matik]

I didn't watch the episode.  I'll do a full reply after I do. In the meantime, I'd like to clarify that regardless of how offensive the episode was, it's not a freedom of speech issue.

Here is the thing about freedom of speech; it doesn't really exist.

In every civilization, there are certain topics that will always beconsidered taboo. The person will suffer either legally or socially.

For example, in America, one cannot say anything racist, anti semetic,homophobic, or misogynistic to state a few, without suffering.Look at what happened to Mel Gibson, look at what happenedto Kramer. Tim Hardaway is another example.  All these guys suffered enormousscrutiny from the publicAND the media.Paul Shirley lost his job for his opinion on Haiti.

Europe is even worse, for there are laws in place againstanti-Semetism. Robert Faurisson, a college professor and respectedhistorian, denied the holocaustever happened, and went under such scrutiny that he was tried in acourt of law, he lost his job, and he will always be associated withthat.
David Irving was another man who did not even question theholocaust, but rather questioned the official number of deaths, and hewent to jail for 4 years forhis scholarly beliefs.

You are going to tell me that Muslims should respect offensive views in the name of Freedom of Speech, when there is obviously adouble standard?  Like I said, there is a line in every civilization that you cannot cross without suffering scrutiny.  In the Muslim society, it just so happens that offensive depictions of the Prophet are beyond that line. I could go on and on, but understand thatthere is no such thing as TRUE Freedom of Speech, and that is really how itshould be.  So don't get surprised if Muslims are offended, they SHOULD be offended. 

Would anyone pull the freedom of speech card if black people got angry over a blatantly racist depiction?  What about when Mel Gibson had his anti-Semetic remarks?  Did anyone stand up and say "Mel Gibson has a right to say what he wants. It's freedom of speech.  Get over it."  What about when Paul Shirley lost his job as a writer?  I'm sure the man will never get a job as a writer ever again.  Did anyone argue on the basis of freedom of speech then?

 

[generationz]

God can be a porn addict and buddha can be a druggie?  Hmmm.....Ok!  These dudes are tripping off an image and hell even his name can't be said?  I respect everyones religion, but damn maybe it's time to update somethings, this goes for a lot of religions.

 

[cz7]

Originally Posted by Mo Matik

I didn't watch the episode.  I'll do a full reply after I do. In the meantime, I'd like to clarify that regardless of how offensive the episode was, it's not a freedom of speech issue.

Here is the thing about freedom of speech; it doesn't really exist.

In every civilization, there are certain topics that will always be considered taboo. The person will suffer either legally or socially.

For example, in America, one cannot say anything racist, anti semetic, homophobic, or misogynistic to state a few, without suffering. Look at what happened to Mel Gibson, look at what happened to Kramer. Tim Hardaway is another example.  All these guys suffered enormous scrutiny from the public AND the media. Paul Shirley lost his job for his opinion on Haiti.

Europe is even worse, for there are laws in place against anti-Semetism. Robert Faurisson, a college professor and respected historian, denied the holocaust ever happened, and went under such scrutiny that he was tried in a court of law, he lost his job, and he will always be associated with that.
David Irving was another man who did not even question the holocaust, but rather questioned the official number of deaths, and he went to jail for 4 years for his scholarly beliefs.

You are going to tell me that Muslims should respect offensive views in the name of Freedom of Speech, when there is obviously a double standard?  Like I said, there is a line in every civilization that you cannot cross without suffering scrutiny.  In the Muslim society, it just so happens that offensive depictions of the Prophet are beyond that line. I could go on and on, but understand that there is no such thing as TRUE Freedom of Speech, and that is really how it should be.  So don't get surprised if Muslims are offended, they SHOULD be offended. 

Would anyone pull the freedom of speech card if black people got angry over a blatantly racist depiction?  What about when Mel Gibson had his anti-Semetic remarks?  Did anyone stand up and say "Mel Gibson has a right to say what he wants. It's freedom of speech.  Get over it."  What about when Paul Shirley lost his job as a writer?  I'm sure the man will never get a job as a writer ever again.  Did anyone argue on the basis of freedom of speech then?

So Ill ask it again, Your reasoning gives islamic extremist the right to KILL someone?

No it doesn't. That is my point. How dare they threaten to take someones lives because they satirize a pitiful religion

 

[bwoodfolkgd74]

it's just sad we can't equally make fun of all religions , buddha was sniffing blow and jesus was watching porn...mean while whats his name wasn't even in the episode. so whats really the problem?

 

[rowenarrow]

OP, don't agree with all of your statements but I think that Islam uses fear as a tactic, one that has the world by the balls. Despite what their belief is to allow extremist to use fear in the name of a religion puts a horrible light on said religion. This religion is just a prone to be poked at, torn up, researched, and questioned just like all. It's prophet is no less safe than Jesus, or any other messenger. I have lived in a Muslim country for the last 4 years of my life and I have developed my own opinions about this culture, for the most part one that would lead extremist to want me to cease to exist if I had influence over the masses of people. With that said I have been engulfed by this culture and I just don't agree with using fear as a tactic.

This culture does that on many levels, how people find peace in this belief is beyond my understanding.

I for one like the stance Matt and Trey have taken. If you get offended by their jokes then maybe your walk isn't as strong as it should be. They make fun of Jesus all the time, but I still love him all the same.

 

[wilroc]

Agree with op's statement. Like someone said before, god has been depicted on south park as some kind of ****** chimera, and nobody made any fuss. For people to go crazy over this is just foolish to me. For depicting their god you get the death penalty? get outta here with that

 

[sundoobie]

This is just another example how pathetic and stupid these Radical Muslim Extremists are.

Killing a human being over this freaking CARTOON?!?!?

  Are you kidding me? 

It's like when South Park made fun of Jay Cutler... why didn't the Bronco fans threaten the creators?  See how ridiculous this is?

 

[tus4prez]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Islam teach that Jesus Christ is a prophet much like Muhammad? Also I think that it is common knowledge that Christians, Jews, and Muslims all believe in the same God. It sounds like this call of violence stems from a few extremists gaining attention because of the media's perception of Islam and the nature of Muslims. 
I can guarantee you that if there were Jewish and Christians extremist groups that could gain the same amount of media attention, that they would be making the same claims of violence. There was a small extremist Christian group that wanted to kill police officers and blow-up the funeral. Now imagine if those Christian fundamentalists were Muslim. I think that we can all agree that the media's attention would be very different.

 Just an opinion though.

 

[sheistbugz]

south park > Muslim

 

[Smorgasbordgie]

Originally Posted by Jerome in the House

True believers do not get offended. Think about it.

 

[dunkedinsauce]

Originally Posted by Crispy Cream

Originally Posted by Jerome in the House

True believers do not get offended. Think about it.

True. But they WOULD be offended by some of the comments in this post

 

[cz7]

To think Christianity and Islam at are not at odds and are some how compatible is utter nonsense. They agree on many moral doctrines mostly because islam is largely a plagarism of the bible.

The disagree on the fundamental aspect of attaining salvation, which central to both religions. Christians say its ONLY through Jesus Christ. Muslims say its only through the teachings of Muhammad. They reject the divinity of christ. Therefore the two are fundamentally at odds. According to the bible muslims will not enter heaven, and vice versa for the muslims. This is what you have to believe if you call yourself a true muslim or christian.

BUT that is NOT what this post is about at all.

 

[Lizakers]

religion is holding back our species from intellectual evolution

 

[ikari xd]

smh at people criticizing the grammar of a voltaire quote 

i think if they put it out there as a contemporary satire, it should be respected as such. let them deal with the consequences. they had something to say and they said it. not saying what they did was right or wrong, but they should be able to say it if it isnt obscene etc.

 

[bijald0331]

Originally Posted by Mo Matik

I didn't watch the episode.  I'll do a full reply after I do. In the meantime, I'd like to clarify that regardless of how offensive the episode was, it's not a freedom of speech issue.


Here is the thing about freedom of speech; it doesn't really exist.



In every civilization, there are certain topics that will always be
considered taboo. The person will suffer either legally or socially.



For example, in America, one cannot say anything racist, anti semetic,
homophobic, or misogynistic to state a few, without suffering.
Look at what happened to Mel Gibson, look at what happened
to Kramer. Tim Hardaway is another example.  All these guys suffered enormous
scrutiny from the public
AND the media.
Paul Shirley lost his job for his opinion on Haiti.


Europe is even worse, for there are laws in place against
anti-Semetism. Robert Faurisson, a college professor and respected
historian, denied the holocaust
ever happened, and went under such scrutiny that he was tried in a
court of law, he lost his job, and he will always be associated with
that.


David Irving was another man who did not even question the
holocaust, but rather questioned the official number of deaths, and he
went to jail for 4 years for
his scholarly beliefs.



You are going to tell me that Muslims should respect offensive views in the name of Freedom of Speech, when there is obviously a
double standard?  Like I said, there is a line in every civilization that you cannot cross without suffering scrutiny.  In the Muslim society, it just so happens that offensive depictions of the Prophet are beyond that line. I could go on and on, but understand that
there is no such thing as TRUE Freedom of Speech, and that is really how it
should be.  So don't get surprised if Muslims are offended, they SHOULD be offended. 

Would anyone pull the freedom of speech card if black people got angry over a blatantly racist depiction?  What about when Mel Gibson had his anti-Semetic remarks?  Did anyone stand up and say "Mel Gibson has a right to say what he wants. It's freedom of speech.  Get over it."  What about when Paul Shirley lost his job as a writer?  I'm sure the man will never get a job as a writer ever again.  Did anyone argue on the basis of freedom of speech then?

The slaughter of one's public reputation is different than actually advocating the death of a person. Are you that blinded? Look at all the situations you posted. The GLBT people did not issue a death threat to Tim Hardaway. I can't believe you typed all that up and didn't realize how foolish you sound.

 

[wooly willy]

Originally Posted by Cz7

To think Christianity and Islam at are not at odds and are some how compatible is utter nonsense. They agree on many moral doctrines mostly because islam is largely a plagarism of the bible.

The disagree on the fundamental aspect of attaining salvation, which central to both religions. Christians say its ONLY through Jesus Christ. Muslims say its only through the teachings of Muhammad. They reject the divinity of christ. Therefore the two are fundamentally at odds. According to the bible muslims will not enter heaven, and vice versa for the muslims. This is what you have to believe if you call yourself a true muslim or christian.

BUT that is NOT what this post is about at all.

Stop right there. Its clear now that OP really has no idea what he's talking about

 

[cz7]

Originally Posted by Wooly Willy

Originally Posted by Cz7

To think Christianity and Islam at are not at odds and are some how compatible is utter nonsense. They agree on many moral doctrines mostly because islam is largely a plagarism of the bible.

The disagree on the fundamental aspect of attaining salvation, which central to both religions. Christians say its ONLY through Jesus Christ. Muslims say its only through the teachings of Muhammad. They reject the divinity of christ. Therefore the two are fundamentally at odds. According to the bible muslims will not enter heaven, and vice versa for the muslims. This is what you have to believe if you call yourself a true muslim or christian.

BUT that is NOT what this post is about at all.

Stop right there. Its clear now that OP really has no idea what he's talking about

yet you cite no evidence to the contrary

 

[cz7]

Originally Posted by Wooly Willy

Originally Posted by Cz7

To think Christianity and Islam at are not at odds and are some how compatible is utter nonsense. They agree on many moral doctrines mostly because islam is largely a plagarism of the bible.

The disagree on the fundamental aspect of attaining salvation, which central to both religions. Christians say its ONLY through Jesus Christ. Muslims say its only through the teachings of Muhammad. They reject the divinity of christ. Therefore the two are fundamentally at odds. According to the bible muslims will not enter heaven, and vice versa for the muslims. This is what you have to believe if you call yourself a true muslim or christian.

BUT that is NOT what this post is about at all.

Stop right there. Its clear now that OP really has no idea what he's talking about

yet you cite no evidence to the contrary