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Most of the debate last night about Ball was really good and I'm not sure exactly where I fall other than Lavar needs to fall off a cliff somewhere.

And not because he's black.

Lavar Ball represents everything I loathe about ESPN and today's Sports journalism. Who can yell the loudest and be the biggest clown will draw the most attention and they don't even really have to say a damn thing that's accurate or true, just be wild and crazy. SAS, Skip Bayless, Ball, Chris Broussard.

No one focuses on the actual games anymore, instead they focus on the gossip. Sports gossip. Far as I can tell, it kinda started with the OJ case and the Nancy Kerrigan case, those were HUGE headline grabbers, and ever since, we've started trending towards all this gossip bs and no more actual sports discussion or debate.

Lonzo Ball is drafted, the mic goes into Lavar Ball's face. Think about that.

On one hand, Lavar is a brilliant father in that he is sort of keeping Lonzo out of the media limelight by deflecting all the attention onto himself, that's very smart, and from what I can tell, I think it's benefiting Lonzo.
On the other hand, why the **** does the world insist on listening to some dad? Where was Josh Jackson's dad? Why didn't I see Fultz's dad? Or Monk, or DSJ, or Fox, or Shaq's, or AD's, or Iverson's, or Blake Griffin's? Why don't those dad's have interviews nightly? Why aren't they wrestling? (Wrestling alone is reason enough for me to be done with a person :lol )

Colin Cowherd used to be a VERY smart, intelligent, well thought out person when he was the local guy here in Oregon. Very reasonable, very knowledgeable, was really bright and was a great listen. Then he got hired by ESPN and oh my God did he flip the script. Suddenly he was Hot Take master and sayin anything he could to drive up ratings.
Jim Rome hasn't had an actual sports observation in 20 years, he just tells jokes that involve teams/players and coaches. "Whoa man, that Super Bowl was fresh, the Patriots really brought it last night". Rack em. National radio host, doesn't say a single word about the actual game, or matchup, or strategy, nothin, just spits stupid *** takes, and makes millions off that garbage.

To me, Lavar represents all that.

Know who else is like that? Tebow. Biggest farce there is, and yet media/fans eat him up.

Manziel too.

So I don't see it as a black/white thing, because both sides have the same type of media driven following that the masses just devour. It's dumbed down the average sports fan so damn much it's ridiculous. And frankly sad.

Lavar has zero need, reason, or business bein on TV, or radio, or anywhere else other than in the seats cheerin on his son(s). You can surely do the dad interview now again, or show them cheerin during games, but all this other nonsense is flat out garbage and the world is worse off because of it. That ain't Lavar's fault by any means, he's soaking in the 15 minutes of fame, it's society as a whole that is to blame for a random father to become a mega celebrity, same as a sex tape turned the Kardashians into historical royalty.
 
Another old man take.

You do know Lavar is the sole pitchman and advertiser for his brand correct? He doesn't have sponsors or a million dollar corporation behind him to promote him and his kids. He's doing it organically and from the ground up. It's working marvelously as seen by his appearance on WWE for free. They had his logo on display. He's getting free publicity while not harming a single soul.

You and ska sound like ol girl on Cowherd's show.
 
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And none of what you just said has anything to do with what I spoke on. I don't even think I spoke once of BBB, and ESPN doesn't interview him because he's starting up a shoe/clothing company, come on. :lol
 
Another old man take.

You do know Lavar is the sole pitchman and advertiser for his brand correct? He doesn't have sponsors or a million dollar corporation behind him to promote him and his kids. He's doing it organically and from the ground up. It's working marvelously as seen by his appearance on WWE for free. They had his logo on display. He's getting free publicity while not harming a single soul.

You and ska sound like ol girl on Cowherd's show.
This is how I see it also. He's using the publicity to build his brand. 

He's in on the joke and playing his role. 

I can see how someone can be annoyed by him having a platform (more like the media exploiting him to get easy clicks and views), but you have to respect him taking that and using it to his advantage.
 
And none of what you just said has anything to do with what I spoke on. I don't even think I spoke once of BBB, and ESPN doesn't interview him because he's starting up a shoe/clothing company, come on. :lol

You said he has no reason to be on tv, radio or anywhere else did you not? There's definitely reason for him to be on all those mediums. Anyone that's ever taken a marketing course knows this is 101.
 
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And none of what you just said has anything to do with what I spoke on. I don't even think I spoke once of BBB, and ESPN doesn't interview him because he's starting up a shoe/clothing company, come on. :lol

You said he has no reason to be on tv, radio or anywhere else did you not? There's definitely reason for him to be on all those mediums.

What is ESPN/Fox/TNT etc motivations for bringing in an upstart Shoe/Clothing owner??????

HE wanna be on radio to promote, sure, got it. Why do THEY want him for? They tryna help sell shoes? Apparel?

After Lonzo was drafted, they put mics in front of Lavar to sell shoes??????
 
 
And none of what you just said has anything to do with what I spoke on. I don't even think I spoke once of BBB, and ESPN doesn't interview him because he's starting up a shoe/clothing company, come on.
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You said he has no reason to be on tv, radio or anywhere else did you not? There's definitely reason for him to be on all those mediums.
There's no reason for the media to want him other than to get easy clicks and views. He's not really saying anything insightful, he's just clowning.

There's certainly a reason for him to want to be on there, he's taking full advantage of it. 

He's a lot less annoying once you realize he's in on the joke and he's playing a part.

I respect it. 
 
What is ESPN/Fox/TNT etc motivations for bringing in an upstart Shoe/Clothing owner??????

HE wanna be on radio to promote, sure, got it. Why do THEY want him for? They tryna help sell shoes? Apparel?

After Lonzo was drafted, they put mics in front of Lavar to sell shoes??????

For entertainment obviously. But again it's not a one way street. They both benefit, Lavar even more so than them. To dismiss it as clown **** is shortsighted to say the least.
 
I went to Raw earlier this year when my friend took his nephews.

Weird people at those things.

I walked out after the first match and just sipped some beers in the hallway :lol

alot of those people that watch wrestling are basketball and sport fans in general who also have as much weirdos as fans

thats why when nba playoffs or monday night football is on the ratings for wrestling dips
 
What is ESPN/Fox/TNT etc motivations for bringing in an upstart Shoe/Clothing owner??????

HE wanna be on radio to promote, sure, got it. Why do THEY want him for? They tryna help sell shoes? Apparel?

After Lonzo was drafted, they put mics in front of Lavar to sell shoes??????

i hinted at this yesterday but they wasnt having it [emoji]129300[/emoji]

maybe it will make sense to them today
 
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I went to Raw earlier this year when my friend took his nephews.

Weird people at those things.

I walked out after the first match and just sipped some beers in the hallway :lol


It always seemed to me like an arena full of Walmart shoppers :lol
 
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What is ESPN/Fox/TNT etc motivations for bringing in an upstart Shoe/Clothing owner??????

HE wanna be on radio to promote, sure, got it. Why do THEY want him for? They tryna help sell shoes? Apparel?

After Lonzo was drafted, they put mics in front of Lavar to sell shoes??????

For entertainment obviously. But again it's not a one way street. They both benefit, Lavar even more so than them. To dismiss it as clown **** is shortsighted to say the least.

We get it, you're gonna back the Ball family with your every breath, we all get it, but you know damn well there is zero reason for this father to be all over every platform. Stop pretending like it's normal.
 
We get it, you're gonna back the Ball family with your every breath, we all get it, but you know damn well there is zero reason for this father to be all over every platform. Stop pretending like it's normal.

It is though. Especially in today's microwave and social media climate. Get with the times. He would be dumb to turn down free publicity. They get ratings and he gets exposure for his brand.
 
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I went to Raw earlier this year when my friend took his nephews.

Weird people at those things.

I walked out after the first match and just sipped some beers in the hallway :lol

alot of those people that watch wrestling are basketball and sport fans in general who also have as much weirdos as fans

thats why when nba playoffs or monday night football is on the ratings for wrestling dips

i don't know man...

ive been to plenty of sporting events and this crowd was definitely different :lol
 
Another old man take.

You do know Lavar is the sole pitchman and advertiser for his brand correct? He doesn't have sponsors or a million dollar corporation behind him to promote him and his kids. He's doing it organically and from the ground up. It's working marvelously as seen by his appearance on WWE for free. They had his logo on display. He's getting free publicity while not harming a single soul.

You and ska sound like ol girl on Cowherd's show.

Facts only!!

We know why they love to hate on Lavar :{
 
Pretty positive Wade said he doesn't care about chasing rings anymore. Which is partly why he went to Chicago in the first place. He just wanted his money. LA seems like the perfect 'lifestyle' for where he is right now.

Definitely a west hollywood type of brotha
 
If people will watch it they will show it.

If weirdos like us, who spend hours posting on message boards, are talking about it. They will show it.
 
The only thing I dont understand is Noble consistently has called me the biggest whiner on this forum but im not the one whining about a father marketing his brand and doing an exceptional job of setting up his boys for success.

If you dont like it why the hell you tuning in? If you dont like the attention then why the hell you loggin in? Everyone on the internet talks about the hottest pop culture topics, and Lavar has been one for weeks. I know its annoying at times but how is it doing US any harm?

Is he doing anything to harm a soul?
Hes goofing around on tv for entertainment and people are eating it up.
We might not like it but a majority of America does, or else he wouldnt be put on all these platforms.

The anger or disappointment should be directed towards society for being so interested in it, rather than the media or fans for enjoying it and capitalizing off of it.
They dont put anyone or anything on tv that isnt in high demand.

Same goes with Stephan A Smith. Most dudes on NT call him a clown but still tune in everyday for his takes. Obviously if you want to watch someone for your own entertainment they must be doing something right, they are performers and you are tuning in to watch them perform.

I just think we should focus more of our attention on society as a whole, rather than pinpoint one father who is using this system to his advantage masterfully as annoying as it might be to us or not.
Hes not the problem, hes just taking advantage of the problem and hes doing it harmlessly to help his family.

What is the big deal?

(And i get it, i just whined about whiners...which is still whining. Whatever)
 
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