**NBA FINALS THREAD - RAPTORS DEFY GRAVITY**

[friscostylez]

What is the general consensus on Steph not winning the 2015 FMVP? Man averaged 26/5/6 with 1.8 steals on 44/39/89 splits to Iggy’s 16/5/4 with 1.3 steals on 52/40/35 splits. I mean, I can appreciate the defensive effort on Bron but he still averaged 36/13/9 . That one’s a lil fishy IMO

What was bron numbers when iggy was guarding him? Pretty sure it was trash af

 

[MVP]

What is the general consensus on Steph not winning the 2015 FMVP? Man averaged 26/5/6 with 1.8 steals on 44/39/89 splits to Iggy’s 16/5/4 with 1.3 steals on 52/40/35 splits. I mean, I can appreciate the defensive effort on Bron but he still averaged 36/13/9 . That one’s a lil fishy IMO

They were down 2-1 when Iggy was inserted into the starting lineup in game 4. Changed the whole dynamic to that series, his defense on Bron was spectacular.

When Iguodala was in the game, LeBron James shot 38.1 percent from the field, scoring 26 points per 36 minutes with 2.9 turnovers. With Iguodala on the bench, James shot 44 percent, averaging 35 points per 36 minutes with 2.2 turnovers. With Iguodala as the primary defender, opponents shot 37.2 percent overall, and he gave up free throws the same percentage of time (10.8 percent) that he forced a turnover, via Synergy Sports. Those are steller defensive numbers.

 

[RIP Screw]

I’m just showing you that it’s widely regarded that Kobe is in fact NOT top 10

That is fine. It's also widely regarded that Bron is over Magic.

 

[QU!K]

That is fine. It's also widely regarded that Bron is over Magic.

Sure I’m not even mad you think that

It’s actually debatable

 

[RIP Screw]

They were down 2-1 when Iggy was inserted into the starting lineup in game 4. Changed the whole dynamic to that series, his defense on Bron was spectacular.

Currys 37 points in game 5 was spectacular. 7/13 from 3.

 

[Mike dunleavy]

If cavs win 54 games in 2006 does nash still win the mvp?

 

[MVP]

My gawd the yams

 

[Mike dunleavy]

Curry lost the finals mvp in game 2 after this

He still won mvp and a ring in the same season still a great accomplishment

 

[champcruthik]

Raps win 3 straight from here

Put your $ up, brodie.

 

[ThePeoplesChamp_]

Curry lost the finals mvp in game 2 after this

He still won mvp and a ring in the same season still a great accomplishment

The fact that lebron received 4 votes proves that award is a complete joke.

He was inefficient from the field and they lost 3 straight after being up 2-1.

 

[hand2handking]

 

[hand2handking]

 

[storm2006]

would Silver allow this?!?! The precedent that it would set would be next level.

 

[MajinZuub]

If lakers win 54 games in 2006 does nash still win the mvp?

 

[champcruthik]

HIM , spamming this thread with a lil' baseball but trade me Jose Ramirez in the keeper league, brodie.

 

[leavemeglazzies]

Curry lost the finals mvp in game 2 after this

The fact that Delly dropped 20 points on him in the following game (still a career high for him, regular season or playoffs), didn't help either.

I'm hoping he wins FMVP this year. His entire legacy would be ruined if he finishes his career without one. The only players who are considered top 10 who don't have at least 2 Finals MVPs are the ones from the time when the award didn't exist.

 

[leavemeglazzies]

Kobe had 2011 vs. Mavs moments the whole series against the pistons in 04.

There is no doubt that both Kobe in 2004 and LeBron in 2011 had poor finals performances.

However, there is one major difference between those two finals performances:
Take a role player from the 2004 Lakers, for example Derek Fisher, and put him in Kobe's place and take a role player from the 2011 Heat, for example Mike Miller, and put him in LeBron's place:

If Derek Fisher averaged:
22.6 points on 22.6 shots and .381 shooting, while taking nearly 6 more shots per game than Shaq who averaged 26.6 points on 16.8 shots and .631 shooting (actually a higher FG% than in any of his 3 amazing Finals MVP performances from the Lakers 3-peat)
2.8 rebounds
4.4 assists

during the 2004 finals, would people be saying that Derek Fisher had a good finals series?

Now if Mike Miller averaged:
17.8 points on .478 shooting
7.2 rebounds
6.8 assists

during the 2011 finals while not being a difference maker in 4th quarters, being outplayed by Wade and everything else bad you can say about LeBron's 2011 finals performance, would people be saying that Mike Miller had a poor finals series?

 

[freeze]

My gawd the yams

draggin dat wagon

 

[RIP Screw]

If Derek Fisher averaged:
22.6 points on 22.6 shots and .381 shooting, while taking nearly 6 more shots per game than Shaq who averaged 26.6 points on 16.8 shots and .631 shooting (actually a higher FG% than in any of his 3 amazing Finals MVP performances from the Lakers 3-peat)
2.8 rebounds
4.4 assists

during the 2004 finals, would people be saying that Derek Fisher had a good finals series?

No.

About Mike Miller, yes they would say he had a good series. But you gotta remember stats don't tell all.

 

[tay1]

So now Kawhi has a left knee injury? Y'all think it's worth it for them to continue to play him 40+ minutes a game?

 

[shotsrangout]

So now Kawhi has a left knee injury? Y'all think it's worth it for them to continue to play him 40+ minutes a game?

They have no chance if they don’t

 

[DCAllAfrican]

@kidkain : https://niketalk.com/threads/the-of...6-nba-champions.649456/page-597#post-26003215

@antidope : https://niketalk.com/threads/the-of...6-nba-champions.649456/page-509#post-25984737

RE: Andre Iguodola making the HOF

Closterman KILLS that argument.


Chuck Klosterman on the NBA Finals, Stern vs. Silver, 'Fleabag,' Matthew Boling, and Obsessed 'Game of Thrones' Fans | The Bill Simmons Podcast HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by author Chuck Klosterman to revel in NBA Finals story lines and subplots, compare commissioners David Stern and Adam Silver, and more (2:25). Then, they discuss high school track star Matthew Boling (1:03:50), 'Fleabag' Season 2, and outraged 'Game of Thrones' fans (1:20:0.
http://podbay.fm/show/1043699613/e/1559682257?autostart=1



Doris Burke
Zach talks to Hall of Famer Doris Burke about where we stand as the NBA Finals shifts to Oakland, what to expect from both teams moving forward and much more.
Listening to Doris Burke from The Lowe Post. http://podbay.fm/show/986595124/e/1559694900

 

[tay1]

They have no chance if they don’t

Yeah but the injuries are continuing to add up. May be a matter of time before something really serious happens.

 

[friscostylez]

They were down 2-1 when Iggy was inserted into the starting lineup in game 4. Changed the whole dynamic to that series, his defense on Bron was spectacular.

When Iguodala was in the game, LeBron James shot 38.1 percent from the field, scoring 26 points per 36 minutes with 2.9 turnovers. With Iguodala on the bench, James shot 44 percent, averaging 35 points per 36 minutes with 2.2 turnovers. With Iguodala as the primary defender, opponents shot 37.2 percent overall, and he gave up free throws the same percentage of time (10.8 percent) that he forced a turnover, via Synergy Sports. Those are steller defensive numbers.

One can make an easy argument that things changed once bogut was removed from the line Up

 

[Mike dunleavy]

The fact that lebron received 4 votes proves that award is a complete joke.

He was inefficient from the field and they lost 3 straight after being up 2-1.

The 4 votes are from the Cavs taking the warriors to 6 games