NCAA Will Allow Trans Athletes: Lia Thomas Becomes 1st NCAA Transgender Champion

[DCAllAfrican]

It's not a lose lose if they're in favor of it and welcome it, only a lose lose if they are against it.

Correct.

I'm just referring to those against it.

 

[Peep Game]

A transgender weightlifter will make history at the Olympics. Is her inclusion fair?

Laurel Hubbard will make history when she becomes the first openly transgender athlete to compete in an Olympics. Is it fair?

sports.yahoo.com

Excerpt from the article

When it's framed that way, I guess you could say it's a fair point, but all in all, I don't think it's an acceptable advantage.

I watched that event and Laurel struggled mightily on some of those lifts

 

[mjt26]

Things the articles never mention is that Caster (and the other two 800m runners) have XY chromosomes.
Now, I've always been against what they did to her and I hope she got a nice settlement out of the IOCs actions. But so many of the articles frame the situation as "cis" women being punished.

The real question is can they have the testosterone rule for women with XX chromosomes? (The answer should be, no.)

Look at JKR if you want to know what happens if you dare to mention that there are differences between "cis" and trans women and what that means.

 

[Master Zik]

Smart move.

It's stupid for any celebrity/athlete to publicly touch that topic. Lose/Lose situation.

If they publicly say they're okay with it or don't care even if they're lying I don't see how they lose in that situation.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

But so many of the articles frame the situation as "cis" women being punished.

What do you mean?

 

[mjt26]

What do you mean?

The articles mention that Caster and the other two athletes are, unlike Laurel, "cis" women. That they are natural women with high testosterone levels, when they are intersex athletes with XY chromosomes who were raised as females.

 

[slaughterx]

If they publicly say they're okay with it or don't care even if they're lying I don't see how they lose in that situation.

What if they are not ok with it and do care?

 

[shogun]

There's a transwoman in the wnba.

 

[Master Zik]

What if they are not ok with it and do care?

Then they got two options lie or lose.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Combining men's, women's Final Four locations among recommendations listed in NCAA gender equity review - CBSSports.com

Combining men's, women's Final Four locations among recommendations listed in NCAA gender equity review

The 115-page report goes deep on the disparities between the men's and women's basketball tournaments

www.cbssports.com

 

[jape]

It's not a lose lose if they're in favor of it and welcome it, only a lose lose if they are against it.

Correct.

I'm just referring to those against it.

if they are in favor of it and welcome it they will lose the competition like they already have though

 

[blastercombo]

Silence speaks volumes

An Olympics reporter was met with silence when he asked the women's weightlifting podium about Laurel Hubbard

The American lifter Sarah Robles, who won the bronze medal, eventually said, "No, thank you," and moved the conference on.

www.insider.com

Does this not help prove “Omg they’ll just win everything” wrong?

 

[jape]

Does this not help prove “Omg they’ll just win everything” wrong?

i mean she did take the spot of another athlete at the olympics
slim margins

 

[slaughterx]

A former sprinter questioned whether the Olympic 200-meter silver medalist is 'definitely a woman' because she ran so fast

Christine Mboma, an 18-year-old from Namibia, ran the 200 meters in 21.81 seconds — which a male former Polish sprinter says is too fast.

www.insider.com

 

[marikomorose]

Seems like Marcin Urbas is another racist.

 

[para bellum]

Transgender swimmer Lia Thomas smashes women’s records, stokes outrage
Athlete dominates Ivy League women's freestyle events after transition

Collegiate swimmer Lia Thomas is shattering women’s swimming records this season, and critics say there’s a reason: She used to be a man.

The University of Pennsylvania swimmer continued her dominance Saturday at the 2021 Zippy Invitational in Akron, Ohio, with a first-place finish in the 200-yard freestyle, setting a pool, program and meet record with a time of 1:41.93.


“She won the race by nearly seven seconds and her time was the fastest in the country,” the Penn sports information department said in a press release.

Washington Post

 

[sooperhooper]

People won't be satisfied until all of women's sports is killed by this movement. Which is so much irony that I can't even sort it all out.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

.

@ 7 seconds

People know deep down inside that this isn't fair man.

@ Competing for 3 years before this happening.

 

[WASHED KING]

If women don’t think it’s fair it’s going to have to be women to exclude trans women from competing in women sports.

Because no heterosexual man is going to say anything at this point.

 

[WASPS ANDD ASPS]

I imagine Michelle Phelps would obliterate the womens swimming records

 

[DCAllAfrican]

If women don’t think it’s fair it’s going to have to be women to exclude trans women from competing in women sports.

Because no heterosexual man is going to say anything at this point.

What power would they (women) have to make that happen?

 

[mjt26]

What power would they (women) have to make that happen?

Exactly. Women don't have power, that's the whole point of this. Those who do stand up and say, this isn't fair are labeled transphobes and worse. Penn has told women on the team to stop speaking out against this. The only power women really have is to stop participating, which seems to be the end goal for some misogynists anyway.

Last week a woman resigned from the dance troop she founded because she told dancers in her home that she doesn't believe that people can change their biological sex. That's not even an opinion, that's a fact.

 

[1995]

Open Letter: Dancers Respond to Rosie Kay’s Article in the Times

We, as cast members of Rosie Kay Dance Company’s Romeo + Juliet write this letter as an open response to Rosie Kay’s article in The Times…

medium.com

"Inaccurate Statement 1: ‘Rosie was forced out of the company for her belief that biological sex is immutable.’

Corrected Statement: Rosie resigned from the company while her company’s grievance process was taking place. It was ongoing, was not a disciplinary process and no conclusion has been reached."

"Despite not wanting to be questioned in this way, we respected Rosie's right to hold the belief that biological sex is immutable."

 

[jape]

Cot damn 7 seconds

 

[mjt26]

Open Letter: Dancers Respond to Rosie Kay’s Article in the Times

We, as cast members of Rosie Kay Dance Company’s Romeo + Juliet write this letter as an open response to Rosie Kay’s article in The Times…

medium.com

"Inaccurate Statement 1: ‘Rosie was forced out of the company for her belief that biological sex is immutable.’

Corrected Statement: Rosie resigned from the company while her company’s grievance process was taking place. It was ongoing, was not a disciplinary process and no conclusion has been reached."

"Despite not wanting to be questioned in this way, we respected Rosie's right to hold the belief that biological sex is immutable."

"Right to hold the belief that biological sex is immutable." This is not Rosie's belief, it is fact. This is statement she made in her home after inviting dancers in her company for dinner:
“Woolf knows anyone can change sex in their imagination but that you can’t change sex in your actual body.”

You linking an article by the complaining dancers doesn't make it more factual than her version of the event.