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Until Wall wins 1 playoff series against a 50 win team lets hold that judgment.
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Until Wall wins 1 playoff series against a 50 win team lets hold that judgment.
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Exactly"It's CP3's fault that the Clips lose because he is too efficient"
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I've had my issues with Doc Rivers but he is NOT the reason LAC has underachieved or whatever you call it.
He was the head coach when we beat GSW, SAS, he was the head coach when we were about to go up 3-2 on OKC and were up 3-1 on Houston.
He's been the coach that up until this season, had us on avg at about 56 wins under him.
The issue with LAC to me has been largely injuries. And it's not so much the injuries in the playoffs, it's the injuries in the regular season. Call it what you want, but when you play in a conference w/The KD OKC, GSW, SAS, Houston, seeding matters. They've been able to win 50+ games year in and year out which makes it look like they're really good in the regular season, but the reality is that if you're not a top two seed you're w/o HC after round 1 and you don't win a lot of series in this western conference climate w/o homecourt.
They're winning 50+ games each season (They won't this year) while CP and / Or Blake have missed significant time EVERY SINGLE YEAR while Doc was the head coach. I'd like to think that, given that success rate, had they had one year of great health between those two, that they would have had a top 2 seed at least once and maybe this conversation is a bit difference. Is it LAC's fault for placing the franchise on two injury prone guys? Maybe, but that's the gamble you take.
You can say a lot about why LAC hasn't advanced, but their failure to break into the upper echelon of the conference record wise will be their ultimate demise, and injuries have everything to do with that.
He was the head coach when we beat GSW, SAS, he was the head coach when we were about to go up 3-2 on OKC and were up 3-1 on Houston.
He's been the coach that up until this season, had us on avg at about 56 wins under him.
The issue with LAC to me has been largely injuries. And it's not so much the injuries in the playoffs, it's the injuries in the regular season. Call it what you want, but when you play in a conference w/The KD OKC, GSW, SAS, Houston, seeding matters. They've been able to win 50+ games year in and year out which makes it look like they're really good in the regular season, but the reality is that if you're not a top two seed you're w/o HC after round 1 and you don't win a lot of series in this western conference climate w/o homecourt.
They're winning 50+ games each season (They won't this year) while CP and / Or Blake have missed significant time EVERY SINGLE YEAR while Doc was the head coach. I'd like to think that, given that success rate, had they had one year of great health between those two, that they would have had a top 2 seed at least once and maybe this conversation is a bit difference. Is it LAC's fault for placing the franchise on two injury prone guys? Maybe, but that's the gamble you take.
You can say a lot about why LAC hasn't advanced, but their failure to break into the upper echelon of the conference record wise will be their ultimate demise, and injuries have everything to do with that.
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It's not on Doc man. He has issues for sure. But for christ sake, Pop is like the best coach in the league and even he has blown championships, blown rotations, etc. ask Anti.@WavyCrocket pretty much agree with most of what you said.
Although, If you're the 3-5 seed and are capable of beating any seed but the coach consistently fails to get you over the hump I gotta put more blame on Doc. They did have their fair share of bad luck though. To win a chip, luck definitely has to be on your side. But to not even have 1 finals or WCF appearance though
I don't think Doc has done enough to take the number 1 blame for what has happened to the Clippers.
Regular season injuries year in and year out to their BEST players are far more responsible for what has happened with LAC.
And I agree with EVERYTHING Wavy said, except that I don't think doc has been horrible as a gm, just average.
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bad comparisonIt's not on Doc man. He has issues for sure. But for christ sake, Pop is like the best coach in the league and even he has blown championships, blown rotations, etc. ask Anti.@WavyCrocket pretty much agree with most of what you said.
Although, If you're the 3-5 seed and are capable of beating any seed but the coach consistently fails to get you over the hump I gotta put more blame on Doc. They did have their fair share of bad luck though. To win a chip, luck definitely has to be on your side. But to not even have 1 finals or WCF appearance though
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Not really. There's only what, 5 or 6 coaches who've won an NBA championship. Doc and Pop are two of them.
Not to mention Doc "beat" pop when they went head up in the playoffs in 2015.
I'm not saying Doc Rivers is a better coach, what im saying is that no coach is perfect, and even the best (Pop) make Epic blunders.
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Lol nah man. How?
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Exactly"It's CP3's fault that the Clips lose because he is too efficient"
Nope. More like he's not efficient enough when it matters the most.
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Where is your evidence supporting that claim?
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Well said.
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Gortat is having a rough month on the court but clearly is performing at an all star level off the court.
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Ok, Marcin.
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im on mobile rn so i will provide the data later but this won't be hard at all to back this up lol. See example of dem blowing the 3-1 lead to rockets.
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Watched about 2:00 of a vid he produced that was on ESPN yesterday. I was SO confused that I had to turn the thing off. Made no sense.
Project only got greenlighted due to the name. Was absolute garbage.
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Just make sure you remember we are asking for examples of CP3 choking under pressure and not the Clippers team
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Will still be easy af.
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Beat a 48 win Bulls squad and swept a 49 win Raptors team...but yea, let's hold off 'til he leads the Wizards to a series victory over a 50 win team.
*probably would have been in the ECF in 14/15 if he didn't break his hand.
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Do you have data or examples of cp3 excelling under pressure?
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I thought the person that made the claim was responsible for the burden of proof.
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