Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

[MVP]

 That's like 30 years to 3-4 maybe, little unfair tbh

What everybody on the list played from 1990-2005 and garnered all defensive team selections. And it's still partly why it was stupid in the first place to say there are as many now as there were back then. I did it by the era. The 80s was a far different type game. The NBA started changing the rules to allow a more wide open game around the mid 2000s. They removed hand checking right before the 2005 season.

 

[benzilla427]

How would y'all feel if everybody played like harden? League would be unwatchable

 

[Proposition Joe]

What everybody on the list played from 1990-2005. And it's still partly why it was stupid in the first place to say there are as many now as there were back then. I did it by the era. The 80s was a far different type game. The NBA started changing the rules to allow a more wide open game around the mid 2000s. They removed hand checking right before the 2005 season.

There are as many great defensive players now as there were back then. Just cause you called out on that nonsense list doesn't mean it was stupid to say. There's great defensive players every year.

 

[tyevvyotcu]

no bruce bowen
no kobe
?

 

[the collector]

Russ and Harden each take a league leading 10 free throws a game. They average 9 points of free throws alone. Just as a reference for this discussion.

 

[EddieDoyers]

Collector does have a point though that this generation of players are softer than the previous generation. Draymond Green is considered a pest and bully on defense and the boards.
He would fit just right in with the 90s style of play. Not many other players have that type of aggressive play.

 

[tyevvyotcu]

Russ and Harden each take a league leading 10 free throws a game. The average 9 points of free throws alone. Just as a reference for this discussion.

there was no help defense back then so instead of free throws they'd be getting layups

 

[ill steelo]

harden would feast in older eras
dudes would be on an island with him without being able to help
he's probably one of the best iso players ever and he's playing against way more conplex team defenses than mj did
cmon now

youtube.com/watch?v=bQ9dBEcI_hE

Not sure where that talking point originated from. The rule books said one thing, teams were actually allowed to do another.

 

[trueprada]

Unnamed Warriors Player Says The Team Has 'Problems And It Ain't Basketball'

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[MVP]

There are as many great defensive players now as there were back then. Just cause you called out on that nonsense list doesn't mean it was stupid to say.

Name them then. I added CP0 and Dwert. From 2006- present. I didn't even put Kobe, Bruce, AK47, or Doug Christie who all had their best defensive seasons before 2005.

 

[Proposition Joe]

Klay gone

 

[JD617]

This is a weird convo to me because free throw rate the past 6 years has been really low compared to the rest of league history. You have to go back to '75 for the last time it was this low.

 

[freddy fig]

Tim Hardaway was makin defenders bite the dust way before curry in a warriors uniform..he had the moves and had a knack for steals...add in assists and u get a guard who could run the point

 

[the collector]

This is a weird convo to me because free throw rate the past 6 years has been really low compared to the rest of league history. You have to go back to '75 for the last time it was this low.

I learned something today. I would have thought it was higher. Maybe it's not the amount of calls but the type of calls being made has changed.

 

[mister friendly]

Also Lebron was an elite defender for a few years.

And Jordan was not a great defender all his years with Bulls.

 

[JD617]

 

This is a weird convo to me because free throw rate the past 6 years has been really low compared to the rest of league history. You have to go back to '75 for the last time it was this low.

I learned something today. I would have thought it was higher. Maybe it's not the amount of calls but the type of calls being made has changed.

I'm assuming all the three point shooting has something to do with it.

 

[Proposition Joe]

Also Lebron was an elite defender for a few years.

And Jordan was not a great defender all his years with Bulls.

What he did to rose

 

[Scarborough]

what is the difference between a great and good defender?

also no shane battier, tony allen or james posey?

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Sanders stole Bogut's beats 

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[tyevvyotcu]

this era you also gotta add Bron, Tyson Chandler, Camby, Noah and Bogut

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

what is the difference between a great and good defender?

also no shane battier, tony allen or james posey?

Same difference between a star, semi star, superstar, super duper star etc.

 

[Quincy McCall]

What everybody on the list played from 1990-2005 and garnered all defensive team selections. And it's still partly why it was stupid in the first place to say there are as many now as there were back then. I did it by the era. The 80s was a far different type game. The NBA started changing the rules to allow a more wide open game around the mid 2000s. They removed hand checking right before the 2005 season.

So if they had played good defense in 2006-present but not their best defensive  seasons, they don't count?

 

[ill steelo]

what is the difference between a great and good defender?

also no shane battier, tony allen or james posey?

Alonzo mourning went dpoy back to back too

 

[the collector]

what is the difference between a great and good defender?

also no shane battier, tony allen or james posey?

A great defender is someone like Bron or Kawhi. They can effectively guard the best scorers on any team outside of a elite scoring big. Speaking of which who are elite scoring bigs?

AD, Boogie and KAT. Am I missing someone?

 

[kyrachelover]

Really westbrick??