Official 2016 NBA Playoffs Thread: Conference Finals: Warriors / Thunder | Cavs / Raptors

[brandon3000]

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Kawhi Leonard in the 2016 playoffs per 36 minutes:
25.5 PPG
6.8 RPG
2.9 APG
2.4 SPG
2.4 BPG
54% FG
56% 3pt FG
Only 1.5 TO

Superstar play.

 

[antidope]

BUT IS HE AN ELITE SCORER?

 

[JD617]

No, calling him that is "ridiculous."

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

What are his per 60 numbers? Probably off the charts I bet

Using per 36 is so silly

 

[HIM]

That Westbrook vine....wow. That's a grown man. L.A. will no longer claim him.

 

[8pm at msg]

I wanna know if anyone told Russ about himself or he just doesn't care to listen

 

[antidope]

What are his per 60 numbers? Probably off the charts I bet

Using per 36 is so silly

Which is why the league itself uses it.

No, calling him that is "ridiculous."

He's gotta put up 38 points on 37% from the field to be an elite scorer

 

[shotsrangout]

KD is a #2 at best. Skills dont make a man 'The Man'...thats all mental.

Where yall even get this from

when KD goes to washington this summer, he bout to show yall why hes the real MVP

 

[rillo561]

Or maybe his running mate is an insane person who would do this to anyone and has the benefit of being the guy who has the ball when play starts.

Amen. Always said they'll never win with Westbrook.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Which is why the league itself uses it.

Logical fallacy: appeal to authority

Kawhi Leonard's actual stats from the 2014-15 playoffs when he played 35.7 mpg

20.3 PPG
7.4 rpg
2.6 apg
1.1 spg
0.6 bpg
47% FG
42% 3FG
2.1 TO

Per 36 is make believe

 

[wavycrocket]

Can't stand Russ mane . Super talented....but I see through the Myplayer stats. Tony Parker needs to become unwashed like he did las night....and realize he can torch Russ. That boy don't play no D.

And no KD slander. Y'all don't realize how crazy nice he is. His ironic "fake tough guy to media" image is very annoying though.

 

[antidope]

No, calling him that is "ridiculous."

 

Which is why the league itself uses it.
 

Logical fallacy: appeal to authority

Kawhi Leonard's actual stats from the 2014-15 playoffs when he played 35.7 mpg

20.3 PPG
7.4 rpg
2.6 apg
1.1 spg
0.6 bpg
47% FG
42% 3FG
2.1 TO

Per 36 is make believe

You posted these like these are bad.

Additionally, his PER 36 numbers from that playoff run are pretty much identical being that he did actually play 36 minutes per game.

Now at this point in the playoffs he's playing 5 less minutes a game (even still his per game numbers are fantastic) so PER 36 becomes an appropriate way to measure the numbers.

 

[JD617]

Using per 36 can be silly if people misuse it. If a guy comes off the bench and averages 14 minutes, there's no way of knowing if he could keep up his production for 36.

Kawhi's averaging 32 minutes. Nothing wrong with using his per 36 in this case.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

You posted these like these are bad.

Additionally, his PER 36 numbers from that playoff run are pretty much identical being that he did actually play 36 minutes per game.

Now at this point in the playoffs he's playing 5 less minutes a game (even still his per game numbers are fantastic) so PER 36 becomes an appropriate way to measure the numbers.

Of course his per 36 is identical to his 35.7 mpg numbers . That was the point. But they are a lot different from this year's per 36 because he hasn't shown the ability to sustain those numbers with increased minutes in real life. Fatigue= lower percentages, increased turnovers etc. Even if it's only 4 minutes.

And yea his real life numbers are fine. Not quite superstar play IMO but good enough that it's silly to inflate them with make believe stats.

Using per 36 can be silly if people misuse it. If a guy comes off the bench and averages 14 minutes, there's no way of knowing if he could keep up his production for 36.

Kawhi's averaging 32 minutes. Nothing wrong with using his per 36 in this case.

Yea I would say there's something wrong because per 36 is an assumption that he would sustain/increase that production given more court time but reality would prove that to be false. There's a reason a coach like pop limits his players minutes throughout the season and the same reason holds true on a game to game basis.

 

[squatchnt]

If Westbrook learned how to be a pg he'd be dangerous but he's not cut out for it. He's a natural SG. OKC needs to let him loose if they want to win..

Does yesterday not qualify as letting him loose. He shot multiple step back threes, he dominated the basketball the entirety of the game, especially in the last two minutes and essentially froze out KD.

Nope, he was playing pg, or at least he was supposed to be sorta. The offense IMO would do better relying on Russ as the scorer he is, and not to dictate and control the offense.

 

[trueprada]

 

 

[wavycrocket]

Using per 36 can be silly if people misuse it. If a guy comes off the bench and averages 14 minutes, there's no way of knowing if he could keep up his production for 36.

Kawhi's averaging 32 minutes. Nothing wrong with using his per 36 in this case.

This

 

[JD617]

The two times he played more than 36 minutes he had 32 & 7 and 31 & 11. 63 points on 39 shots.

ASA

 

[HOU$TON]

Kawhi nice

 

[jsindaa]

I'm gonna say it again...Cavs shoot too many threes. They're hot right now though.

 

[brandon3000]

Can't wait to get the Hawks outta here....

 

[carver]

I see that maggot Teague still doing what he does best

 

[ismellshoes]

Can't wait to get the Hawks outta here....

Dammm. Dirty. Oh well..they about to get swept

 

[flyerthandelta]

I hope the League just fines him for that shove if they suspend Teague for that I'm officially calling the higher ups some Betas man

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

The two times he played more than 36 minutes he had 32 & 7 and 31 & 11. 63 points on 39 shots.

ASA

That's two games bro. Out of 7. He averaged 35.7 in a 7 gamer last year and the numbers are a little different.
It doesn't change the fact that per 36 is nothing but an assumption. He had another game at 35 minutes where he had 14 points on 38%. Maybe he had such a high output in those two games because he had so many other games playing a lot less minutes so he was relatively fresh. He ran 28 and 26 minutes and then had two days off before that 32 and 7 game where he actually ran 42 minutes. Going by that logic he should put up those numbers if he ran 42 minutes every game, ridiculous. He had 3 days off before the 31 and 11. In real life production will fluctuate.
There's so many variables. I can't assume any player would just increase all their numbers by playing more minutes EVERY game and that's what per 36 wants me to believe, silly as hell IMO.
It's a flawed and fake stat that I personally give very little credence to.