LuketheJediKnight:
23ska909red02:
I love how no one is addressing the '2 superstars' comment, or answering the question about MJ joining Magic.
Just coming with the comments like 'You mad' and 'smh' and what not.
Got no response, because there isn't one.
No response needed. Your team is sitting at home, where they belong. That should suffice.
Soooo... you suck at this. According to you, this makes sense:
- "What about the fact that the Heat have the 2 best players in the league?"
- "The Lakers are sitting at home, where they belong."
Like I said, you suck at this.That should suffice? It didn't even answer the damn question.
LuketheJediKnight:
The Lakers are a great franchise and team. But stop the hate.
Asking a question isn't hating.
Your response here doesn't answer the question at all.
What about the superstars criticisms?
DCAllAmerican:
23ska909red02:
I love how no one is addressing the '2 superstars' comment, or answering the question about MJ joining Magic.
LeBron says he wants to win a ring. He went to a location that he felt put him in a better position to win a ring. Him not getting it done in Cleveland is not his fault. I don't think he should be blamed there. I don't think a team was put around him that was built to win a ring. Yes they were nice in the regular season, but they couldn't get it done in the playoffs.
He knew that, so we went to Miami.
Jordan and Magic never faced that type of struggle. LeBron probably wouldn't have beaten Boston while still in Cleveland. Not with those teams. If Jordan wouldn't have gotten past DET, who is to say what he would have done.
So I don't think the situations/players mentioned are even comparable.
Fair enough. I've said plenty of times that Cleveland dropped the ball in a MAJOR way.airmaxpenny1:
Magic Johnson played with %%*++*# KAREEM ABDUL-JABAAR, the second best player ever! Do people hold that against him and say why didn't he leave the Lakers and go and get his own team? No...So $+%@ outta here with that %%%%#$ rhetoric.
True. Calm down, tho.
Big J 33:
It's sad that we're always going to be hearing the complaints and crying about how Lebron "gave up" and went to Miami. Then people bring up Magic and Michael... "would they ever join another superstar's team?" Except Magic played with Kareem and James WorthyMichael Jordan had Scottie Pippen... Kobe Bryant had a prime Shaq then Gasol... LBJ had Mo Williams and an ancient Jamison.
I just don't get it... people criticize him for not winning a title, so then he puts himself in the best position to do it then people criticize him for giving up and not being able to "do it alone". They say he's selfish and only cares about his stats/attention, so then he decides to join up with another superstar with the realization that his stats and his role on the team might be affected. Then if he stayed in Cleveland he would have gotten criticism for not getting it done alone and being too selfish to share the spotlight.
Lebron really can't win. It's only been a season so I'm not entirely shocked but at some point people have to get over this.
Good points.
LuketheJediKnight:
23ska909red02:
I love how no one is addressing the '2 superstars' comment, or answering the question about MJ joining Magic.
Just coming with the comments like 'You mad' and 'smh' and what not.
Got no response, because there isn't one.
No response needed. Your team is sitting at home, where they belong. That should suffice.
Soooo... you suck at this. According to you, this makes sense:
- "What about the fact that the Heat have the 2 best players in the league?"
- "The Lakers are sitting at home, where they belong."
Like I said, you suck at this.That should suffice? It didn't even answer the damn question.
LuketheJediKnight:
The Lakers are a great franchise and team. But stop the hate.
Asking a question isn't hating.
Your response here doesn't answer the question at all.
What about the superstars criticisms?
DCAllAmerican:
23ska909red02:
I love how no one is addressing the '2 superstars' comment, or answering the question about MJ joining Magic.
LeBron says he wants to win a ring. He went to a location that he felt put him in a better position to win a ring. Him not getting it done in Cleveland is not his fault. I don't think he should be blamed there. I don't think a team was put around him that was built to win a ring. Yes they were nice in the regular season, but they couldn't get it done in the playoffs.
He knew that, so we went to Miami.
Jordan and Magic never faced that type of struggle. LeBron probably wouldn't have beaten Boston while still in Cleveland. Not with those teams. If Jordan wouldn't have gotten past DET, who is to say what he would have done.
So I don't think the situations/players mentioned are even comparable.
Fair enough. I've said plenty of times that Cleveland dropped the ball in a MAJOR way.airmaxpenny1:
Magic Johnson played with %%*++*# KAREEM ABDUL-JABAAR, the second best player ever! Do people hold that against him and say why didn't he leave the Lakers and go and get his own team? No...So $+%@ outta here with that %%%%#$ rhetoric.
True. Calm down, tho.
Big J 33:
It's sad that we're always going to be hearing the complaints and crying about how Lebron "gave up" and went to Miami. Then people bring up Magic and Michael... "would they ever join another superstar's team?" Except Magic played with Kareem and James WorthyMichael Jordan had Scottie Pippen... Kobe Bryant had a prime Shaq then Gasol... LBJ had Mo Williams and an ancient Jamison.
I just don't get it... people criticize him for not winning a title, so then he puts himself in the best position to do it then people criticize him for giving up and not being able to "do it alone". They say he's selfish and only cares about his stats/attention, so then he decides to join up with another superstar with the realization that his stats and his role on the team might be affected. Then if he stayed in Cleveland he would have gotten criticism for not getting it done alone and being too selfish to share the spotlight.
Lebron really can't win. It's only been a season so I'm not entirely shocked but at some point people have to get over this.
Good points.
Jordan and Pippens gap is much more defined than the gap between Wade and LeBron. I wouldn't consider LeBron a Pippen.
Jordan and Pippens gap is much more defined than the gap between Wade and LeBron. I wouldn't consider LeBron a Pippen.
So there are like 5 real Heat fans. The rest i never seen them before.Originally Posted by toine2983
What new Heat fans?
Just because myself and few others don't despise the Heat like 80% of S&T doesn't make us Heat fans.
The regulars like h3at, mrcool, bdis, Triz, Rolaholic (
), miamib etc. hardly posted in this thread at all.
So there are like 5 real Heat fans. The rest i never seen them before.Originally Posted by toine2983
What new Heat fans?
Just because myself and few others don't despise the Heat like 80% of S&T doesn't make us Heat fans.
The regulars like h3at, mrcool, bdis, Triz, Rolaholic (), miamib etc. hardly posted in this thread at all.
Its the sum of all his actions though.
Its the sum of all his actions though.
DubA169:
DC it's just my opinion. he was sick of everyone in the media saying he doesn't have a ring. went to the place with the easiest path to get one. just my opinion. i don't know what's in his head or heart
he wouldn't be ridiculed if he want to chicago or new york, but it wouldn't have been instant gratification. probably would have taken a year or two on either squad
I know you were just trying to make a point that he might not be so hated on if he went to a less elite team, but I just have to say that he would have been just as hated on if he went to Chicago, maybe more. First off, he'd be teaming up with DRose, another superstar, so there's that. Then... it's CHICAGO. As in... JORDAN. Yes, he would have most definitely been hated on by everyone but fans of his team, just like now.
DubA169:
DC it's just my opinion. he was sick of everyone in the media saying he doesn't have a ring. went to the place with the easiest path to get one. just my opinion. i don't know what's in his head or heart
he wouldn't be ridiculed if he want to chicago or new york, but it wouldn't have been instant gratification. probably would have taken a year or two on either squad
I know you were just trying to make a point that he might not be so hated on if he went to a less elite team, but I just have to say that he would have been just as hated on if he went to Chicago, maybe more. First off, he'd be teaming up with DRose, another superstar, so there's that. Then... it's CHICAGO. As in... JORDAN. Yes, he would have most definitely been hated on by everyone but fans of his team, just like now.
