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Passing to Ekeler is a more efficient play than any between the tackles run will ever be
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i cant speak for other teams
but eagles in ‘17
the decisions they make within the choice is what is terrible for the chargers
they have a 6’6 athletic QB and were lining up in shot gun in multiple short yardage situations
finessence
what you're saying may be true but none of that has anything to do with him missing wide open throws bruh.
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Don’t get me wrong Herbert missed some shots. But it’s no way you watch the game and say Herbert ain’t the real deal.
He just has an idiot as a coach. I cheer when they lose so Stanley can be gone.
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…Which is exactly why they will always lose. Doing that has got them where?
When Ekeler only gets 6 or 7 yards via the swing pass, on 3rd and 8, or when those passes fall incomplete.
Chargers are to pass heavy and everyone knows it.
The chargers are very one dimensional
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Yeah man. Brandon Staley putting all this on Herbert is just asinine. They don’t have the weaponry like the Bengals or Chiefs to do that. Keenan and Mike Will are good but both injury prone.
He doesn’t have a security blanket at TE.
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The NBA is the perfect example of the problem with “analytics“ and teams shooting 3s
that extra data has to be used within the context of what you have and what you do
maybe if you don’t actually practice something, you can’t expect to be as good as others when doing it
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that extra data has to be used within the context of what you have and what you do
maybe if you don’t actually practice something, you can’t expect to be as good as others when doing it
Giants inexplicably never practiced Tush Push live, coach Brian Daboll admits
The Giants never practiced the Tush Push play live. Brian Daboll admitted on Tuesday that the Giants only have walked through the short yardage play that the Philadelphia Eagles and Jalen Hurts hav…
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I agree. Analytics took the soul out of basketball. Aside from a select few, most guys play the same. Late 90s to about the mid 2010s, we saw way more individualism than we do now. People wonder why guys like Kyrie are so still so popular amongst fans despite the controversies, it's because his game stands out in today's world where everyone wants to shoot 3s. "Bu bu but analytics say it's dumb to do all that dribbling" sure. But as a fan that sxxt is fun to watch. The NFL is slowly getting there. How many times did we see Dal and LA pass up an easy 3 points in favor of going for it on 4th? These dudes coach like they're playing Madden.The NBA is the perfect example of the problem with “analytics“ and teams shooting 3s
that extra data has to be used within the context of what you have and what you do
maybe if you don’t actually practice something, you can’t expect to be as good as others when doing it
Giants inexplicably never practiced Tush Push live, coach Brian Daboll admits
The Giants never practiced the Tush Push play live. Brian Daboll admitted on Tuesday that the Giants only have walked through the short yardage play that the Philadelphia Eagles and Jalen Hurts hav…
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The NBA is the perfect example of the problem with “analytics“ and teams shooting 3s
that extra data has to be used within the context of what you have and what you do
maybe if you don’t actually practice something, you can’t expect to be as good as others when doing it
Giants inexplicably never practiced Tush Push live, coach Brian Daboll admits
The Giants never practiced the Tush Push play live. Brian Daboll admitted on Tuesday that the Giants only have walked through the short yardage play that the Philadelphia Eagles and Jalen Hurts hav…
Yup. Analytics means nothing if you don’t have the talent or personnel. That’s the bottom line.
You still need a certain type of dog to man the sled!!
Golden State can do what they do because of Klay and Steph. Mahomes and Brady could do what they did for their respective teams because they are outliers. They have a different skill level.
30+ teams in basketball, baseball, football, etc but out of those 30 or so teams, maybe 3-5 have the personnel that makes them different.
When you’ve got sorry teams trying to be more than what they are, therein lies the problem
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nah man.. youre excusing teams and the coaching side by doing this
if you don’t have shooters, don’t shoot 3s.. use the data and figure out how to use the guys you have better
teams and coaches make poor choices, blame them.. don’t excuse the human element in what they do with the information
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The Dolphins are a perfect new example. They have the personnel. So with or without the analytics, they are going to do damage. Their offensive personnel is different than other teams now.
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'Only' seven yards per play
Not running the ball 22 times for 49 yards is not why the Chargers lose.
Analytics is just math. It's not a catch-all, either. In basketball, 'analytics' will say a mid range shot is a good shot for someone like DeRozan, Kyrie, Durant. For most players, it's a better shot to step behind the three point line. You could make fewer shots & score the same, or more, points.
In football, going for 4th & short or a 2PT conversion may not work but that doesn't mean it was the wrong decision. Process ≠ results.
Staley had the nerve to call the 4th quarter Int play.
Or the miss your wide open receiver by 12 yards play. Twice.
They should fire that guy. Would be the 5th coach Herbert got canned since Oregon. Clearly, coaching is the issue.......
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The problem isn’t analytics analytics is just data more information not some computer or AI, it’s something all teams should use now because you should be using every tool at your disposal to try to win. The problem is and always has been coaches being lazy and uncreative or just flat out bad.
Analytics just shows you what could work more in your favor it’s still up to the coaches to choose the best plays with the talent they have it’s still up to the coaches to evaluate the players they do have to see if that’s actually their best course of action with their personnel. There is no one size fits all any coach that approaches it that way is the problem not the data It’s just more information to make a more informed decision. A bad coach with or without that information is still gonna be a bad coach cause the problem is them. Good coaches get the most out of it cause they actually good at the job.
Analytics just shows you what could work more in your favor it’s still up to the coaches to choose the best plays with the talent they have it’s still up to the coaches to evaluate the players they do have to see if that’s actually their best course of action with their personnel. There is no one size fits all any coach that approaches it that way is the problem not the data It’s just more information to make a more informed decision. A bad coach with or without that information is still gonna be a bad coach cause the problem is them. Good coaches get the most out of it cause they actually good at the job.
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Yup. Analytics means nothing if you don’t have the talent or personnel. That’s the bottom line.
You still need a certain type of dog to man the sled!!
Golden State can do what they do because of Klay and Steph. Mahomes and Brady could do what they did for their respective teams because they are outliers. They have a different skill level.
30+ teams in basketball, baseball, football, etc but out of those 30 or so teams, maybe 3-5 have the personnel that makes them different.
When you’ve got sorry teams trying to be more than what they are, therein lies the problem
but I think it goes beyond the talent or personal
chargers AND giants being good examples.. i don’t look at the players first in their very recent failures in short yardage situations
I look at the plays the coaches called.. doing anything when ill prepared seems dumb
daboll admitted not practicing that sneak play, but ran it anyways.. then look at the play right before half, all their oline issues and couple seconds before half they let the defense fire off the ball and lost 2 yards
chargers running shotgun in every single short yardage situation last night
that’s not a numbers issue.. that’s what is being done with the numbers AND people issue
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Staley had the nerve to call the 4th quarter Int play.
Or the miss your wide open receiver by 12 yards play. Twice.
They should fire that guy. Would be the 5th coach Herbert got canned since Oregon. Clearly, coaching is the issue.......
So is a quarterback no longer just 1 of 53? They can't be just a piece of the puzzle if the loss also falls solely on them.
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Sensing a theme here
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3 is greater than 2 but not when the team is shooting 10 of 45 from 3pt range. Analytics requires a certain personnel unfortunately. Basketball has been just about ruined at every level.
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it actually doesn’t.. it’s simply more information on a whole lot of situations
unfortunately people have focused on that single piece of information.. just like in football with teams going for it on 4th down more or going for 2
it’s more data on the game as a whole.. a poor decision is still a poor decision and that’s the human side of things
it’s not the numbers fault that daboll ran a play he admitted to not practicing.. also not the numbers fault that the coach didn’t practice a play that has always been as efficient as it is when he has a big tall athletic QB
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Daboll admitting they ran a play they don’t practice is just ridiculous the problem is **** like that
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Staley had the nerve to call the 4th quarter Int play.
Or the miss your wide open receiver by 12 yards play. Twice.
They should fire that guy. Would be the 5th coach Herbert got canned since Oregon. Clearly, coaching is the issue.......
Blaming Justin Herbert for the coaching departures that took place at Oregon is insane and very stupid lmfao
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Justin Herbert is to blame for Florida native Willy Taggert resigning after one season at Oregon and taking the job at FSU lmfao
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the information on that play goes back decades., literally Tom Brady’s most efficient play
daniel Jones is over 6’5 and over 220.. saquon is 6 ft and over 230
would think given how successful that play has historically been, an NFL coach would consider practicing it, just in case
that‘s not a data problem.. steph curry still gotta practice free throws
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That’s how it is on here, slander time for the QB after an L…It’s what dudes look forward to the most whether it’s deserved or not
All losses are the QB or coaches fault, no in between..Guess you can throw “analytics” in there too cuz I see some folks are riled up bout that today as well
