OFFICIAL NFL OFFSZN THREAD 2023-24: R.I.P Jacoby Jones

[finessence]

NFL cold business. Cut buddy before the incentives kicked in.

Stop signing incentivized contracts. It’s such a scam when your playtime and production literally can be compromised if the team fears you may actually reach them

 

[nick.]

What do we think Herbert would do with KC's talent on offense?

Where is KC's talent on offense?

I'll give you OL. For the skill positions, is Travis Kelce, Rashee Rice, & Isiah Pacheco better than Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Austin Ekeler?

 

[storm2006]

A couple things now that I’m done driving

What do we think Herbert would do with KC's talent on offense?

Right, let’s compare him to what the greatest QB we’ve seen play football would do . LeBron had the 07 Cavs in the Finals. Do we need to ask what Tracy McGrady would’ve done with that team?

This is why I said QB talk is nuanced. Too many variables outside of talent. You can’t take over as a Top 10 talent QB like you can as Top 10 hooper IMO.

 

[spacedoodoo]

I think they were ultimately trying to say Herbert wouldn’t be able to lead the chiefs to an 8-3 record with their current talent. Idk lol

 

[Maximus Meridius]

So Herbert is the NFL TMac/Harden type

 

[storm2006]

The other - Schefty said based on history he is expecting 7-10 openings this offseason

We have Raiders and Panthers so far. I think the others would have to be Commanders, Chargers and Pats. Giants? Jets? Bears? Do we get hot seat updates on Monday or Tuesday

 

[finessence]

All the good QBs (other than Allen and Goff maybe) have legitimate receiver cores

Tyreek/Waddle
Brown/Smith
McLaurin/Dotson
Jefferson/Hockenson
DK/Lockett
Sutton/Jeudy
Ridley/Kirk
Deebo/Aiyuk
Chase/Higgins/Boyd

Mike Williams and Keenan Allen have the same skillset and are slow. Mike Williams is forever Hurt. They’ve never had a semblance of a TE…

Keenan Allen is going to get his 8-10 catches for a 100… where else are they getting help from? I’ve seen Mike Williams get locked down plenty of times to. He’s only good at 9 routes

 

[SneakerProSr.]

Saints opening up in 7 days

 

[T0INE]

So Herbert is the NFL TMac/Harden type

Nope.

Apparently Herbo is White Lebby.

 

[finessence]

Then they drafted an IDENTICAL slow guy in Quintin Johnston

They passed on Aiyuk and Tee Higgins for that LB Murray… and he’s not special at all

Chargers have ZERO speed on offense, and a QB who can throw it 60-70 on a line. Dude is dinking and dunking because no one can get separation.

Buddy’s arm has a governor device on it, smh. Can’t go past 45mph

 

[s0lefunk]

Right, let’s compare him to what the greatest QB we’ve seen play football would do . LeBron had the 07 Cavs in the Finals. Do we need to ask what Tracy McGrady would’ve done with that team?

I would never put that bum in the same sentence as Mahomes . nick. understood the point I was making. If you call a supporting cast of Allen, Mike Will, Ekeler, Everett, Bosa, etc. "under talented" then what would you call KC's roster? A top 5 QB should elevate the team.

To be fair, coaching matters and the team has had the injury bug the past few seasons. But that Jags game in the playoffs last season showed me all I needed to see on Herbert.

 

[aepps20]

I’m learning today Justin Herbert has about 10 burner accounts on NT

TimidTebow was his hookup

 

[k3stacks]

 

[storm2006]

All the good QBs (other than Allen and Goff maybe) have legitimate receiver cores

Tyreek/Waddle
Brown/Smith
McLaurin/Dotson
Jefferson/Hockenson
DK/Lockett
Sutton/Jeudy
Ridley/Kirk
Deebo/Aiyuk
Chase/Higgins/Boyd

Mike Williams and Keenan Allen have the same skillset and are slow. Mike Williams is forever Hurt. They’ve never had a semblance of a TE…

B Sox Peep how none of the Ravens core is on there but they are #1 in the AFC and Lamar is an MVP candidate

 

[Dave East]

Bears, Chargers and Saints all gotta be firing their coaches. Washington too.

 

[broncos19dm]

 

[storm2006]

I would never put that bum in the same sentence as Mahomes . nick. understood the point I was making. If you call a supporting cast of Allen, Mike Will, Ekeler, Everett, Bosa, etc. "under talented" then what would you call KC's roster? A top 5 QB should elevate the team.

To be fair, coaching matters and the team has had the injury bug the past few seasons. But that Jags game in the playoffs last season showed me all I needed to see on Herbert.

The conversation needs to be Top 15 for him RIGHT NOW.

 

[storm2006]

Bears, Chargers and Saints all gotta be firing their coaches. Washington too.

Between the two openings and that, it’s 6. Schefty knows. He actually broke it down mathematically based on history over the past few decades

Everyone seems to be super high on Ben Johnson. Apparently Roger sent out a memo to owners saying they owe (or have paid) $800MM to fired coaches

 

[spacedoodoo]

The other - Schefty said based on history he is expecting 7-10 openings this offseason

We have Raiders and Panthers so far. I think the others would have to be Commanders, Chargers and Pats. Giants? Jets? Bears? Do we get hot seat updates on Monday or Tuesday

I’m not saying I support this but I could definitely see Todd Bowles being let go if Tampa doesn’t find a way to get back on track. Rest of the schedule is light and even at 4-7 they can win that division

 

[nick.]

They missed on their draft pick & now it's everyone else's problem

 

[spacedoodoo]

Tepper needs to fire Scott Fitterer next. Hindsight is always 20/20 but the trade to select bryce young was astronomically bad. Only worse trade we’ve seen was from Cleveland acquiring Watson

 

[703 hwy]

Billion dollar team doing this is very nasty work

 

[703 hwy]

They missed on their draft pick & now it's everyone else's problem

Word. What did you expect from a QB that looks like the average NTer

 

[storm2006]

I’m not saying I support this but I could definitely see Todd Bowles being let go if Tampa doesn’t find a way to get back on track. Rest of the schedule is light and even at 4-7 they can win that division

This is crazy. 7-10 was spot on. Close to a third of the league!

These long tenured coaches, their GMs and owners deserve their flowers.

 

[nick.]

Billion dollar team doing this is very nasty work

i mean he's also not a good player