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[mplsdunk]

it's refreshing to not have someone senile on stage

 

[Brownstone]

Walz coming up big time, they rolling full steam ahead, all the momentum, we really should be appreciative of where were at boys, just a month ago it was looking bleak

 

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[RustyShackleford]

She lost to what I understand is a pretty liberal dude. She made herself beatable.

Also, Cori Bush is bad at politics...

Cori Bush, ‘Squad’ Member and Vocal Critic of Israel, Loses Her Primary

Her defeat is another loss for progressives in a race defined by Democratic divisions over the war in Gaza, with pro-Israel groups pouring millions into a campaign to oust her from office.

www.nytimes.com

Cori Bush, ‘Squad’ Member and Vocal Critic of Israel, Loses Her Primary​

Her defeat is another loss for progressives in a race defined by Democratic divisions over the war in Gaza, with pro-Israel groups pouring millions into a campaign to oust her from office.

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Wesley Bell, who defeated Representative Cori Bush on Tuesday, in St. Louis last week. He was boosted by more than $8 million in spending from a super PAC affiliated with the country’s largest pro-Israel lobby.Credit...Michael B. Thomas for The New York Times


Representative Cori Bush of Missouri, one of the most outspoken progressives in the House, lost her primary on Tuesday, according to The Associated Press, falling to a campaign by powerful pro-Israel political groups intent on ousting a fierce critic of the nation’s war in Gaza.
Her opponent, Wesley Bell, a county prosecutor, ran as a progressive and a pragmatist. But he was boosted by more than $8 million in spending from a super PAC affiliated with the country’s largest pro-Israel lobby, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, or AIPAC, and other similar entities. That outside money transformed the race into one of the most expensive House primaries in history.

The contentious contest came just weeks after Representative Jamaal Bowman of New York, another outspoken progressive and vocal Israel critic, suffered a stinging primary defeat. The same pro-Israel groups that poured $15 million into defeating Mr. Bowman were aiding Mr. Bell, and all eyes were on Ms. Bush to see if she would be the next member of the ultraliberal “squad” to see defeat.

Ms. Bush, a former nurse, was first elected in 2020 as part of a wave of progressive victories over establishment figures that elevated forceful Black voices, including Mr. Bowman, during a summer of protests against police brutality. Ms. Bush first made a name for herself in her community in 2014, as a leading Black activist who took to the streets in Ferguson after the killing of Michael Brown, a Black teenager, by a white police officer.

The district is solidly Democratic, and Mr. Bell is expected to easily win the general election.
But since Ms. Bush’s first election, the political terrain has shifted, in large part because of Israel’s war against Hamas. The country’s retaliation for the deadly massacre on Oct. 7 carried out by Hamas has divided mainstream Democrats from progressives like Ms. Bush, who has vocally condemned Israel’s government over its military campaign and the rising civilian death toll in Gaza.

Ms. Bush made herself vulnerable to a serious primary challenge through a string of controversial votes and positions. She was one of two Democrats who voted in January against a resolution to bar members of Hamas and anyone who participated in the attacks against Israel on Oct. 7 from the United States.
In an interview with The New York Times, she declined to call Hamas a terrorist organization.

“Would they qualify to me as a terrorist organization? Yes. But do I know that? Absolutely not,” Ms. Bush said. “I have no communication with them. All I know is that we were considered terrorists, we were considered Black identity extremists and all we were doing was trying to get peace. I’m not trying to compare us, but that taught me to be careful about labeling if I don’t know.” Later, a spokeswoman walked back the comment, saying: “The congresswoman knows Hamas is a terrorist organization.”

And while her race ultimately had little to do with Israel — abortion is illegal in Missouri and crime is high in St. Louis, where downtown is overrun by boarded-up storefronts, giving voters more pressing concerns — her positions and votes regarding the country and its war in Gaza made her a prime target for AIPAC.

Some of the spending against her highlighted her vote against President Biden’s $1 trillion infrastructure law. She opposed the bill because many initiatives liberals wanted, such as universal family leave and free community college, were severed from the legislative package to attract the backing of Republicans, whose votes were needed for it to clear Congress.

The race turned heated, and Ms. Bush refused to debate Mr. Bell, who has said he supports the United States sending military aid to Israel. “We do have to stand by our allies,” he said.

Ms. Bush, in an earlier interview, said she would not debate him because “I’m not going to platform a Republican. If he was not taking all of this Republican money for a Democratic district, then there would be a conversation.”
Mr. Bell, in his challenge, argued that Ms. Bush had been ineffective in Washington, prioritizing her “squad” fame in Congress over local results.

“It was a no-brainer; it’s a good piece of legislation,” Mr. Bell said of the infrastructure bill, noting that it had brought hundreds of millions of dollars into the district for jobs, roads and bridges and clean water. “She had her own protest vote as opposed to what’s in the best interest of her district.”

AIPAC is funding primary challenger against people they view out of step with their views.

People have every right to be angry at that

But people like Bush and Bowman made themselves so beatable in their districts because of bad political moves.

Like voting against the infrastructure bill

 

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[elpablo21]

If it was Manchin, they would be saying the same, it is all they know

 

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[mplsdunk]

The best part of the paid family leave which is really just time off for damn near anything is THEY CANT ASK QUESTIONS. “Put me down for 8 hours sick” and hang up the phone if you want.

 

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Georgia Election Board approves new ‘inquiry’ for certifying election results

The Georgia Election Board passed a rule Tuesday requiring a "reasonable inquiry" before certifying elections, an election-year change opposed by voting rights groups.

www.ajc.com

 

[aepps20]

Our brotha Osh would toast a Oat Milk Latte and from to like a proud family member if that happened.

 

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[trappedintime]

I was relieved it was Walz. He’s such a good choice for the moment and next four years. He’s spent his life supporting others and I really think if the numbers work out they’ll get abortion rights and full legalization through.

Vibez ticket secured

 

[rexanglorum]

She lost to what I understand is a pretty liberal dude. She made herself beatable.

Also, Cori Bush is bad at politics...

Cori Bush, ‘Squad’ Member and Vocal Critic of Israel, Loses Her Primary

Her defeat is another loss for progressives in a race defined by Democratic divisions over the war in Gaza, with pro-Israel groups pouring millions into a campaign to oust her from office.

www.nytimes.com

AIPAC is funding primary challenger against people they view out of step with their views.

People have every right to be angry at that

But people like Bush and Bowman made themselves so beatable in their districts because of bad political moves.

Like voting against the infrastructure bill

As always, your correct on the facts.

But I’d say that the entire Democratic Party is made weaker by losing some who can be simultaneously a DSA member, a Black person, a leftist and a Democratic elected rep.

When it comes to persuading skeptical leftists, I’ve just lost someone who I could cite in favor of voting for Democrats.

I don’t know how this will actually tilt electoral contests but it seems risky and foolish to create a narrative that socialists actually have no place in electoral politics. Worse yet, the organ of a foreign government defeated them (or at least played a role in doing so).

Don’t feel sorry for the leftists who drop out after one electoral defeat (In fact, I encourage you to ridicule them), but spare a thought those of us who are trying to sell other leftists on electoral politics.

It looks bad when the handful of DSA in Congress are picked off by Israel’s US political arm. It makes very little difference in the grand scheme of things but if Bowman and Bush had survived these primaries, I’d be armed with stronger taking points about the Democratic Party and its primary voters.

 

[moe200069]

walz probably learned how to steal by frequenting NT's "cheap things you do thread"

 

[DripNick]

Bro said

 

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