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Dems can't be the party of college educated suburbanites and shrinking black and brown voter base.
the math doesn't work.
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Dems can't be the party of college educated suburbanites and shrinking black and brown voter base.
the math doesn't work.
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A lot of warned people about being “heavily reliant” on social media. Giving kids phones at a young age.
American/society doing away with “face to face interactions” kids not going outside to play. Many of us warned people but others just said we were “living in the past”
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latinos americans are american, there is no evidence that there opinions about the boarders are different from white americans.
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Democrats and their base need to take a real hard good look at themselves. I am tired of some of ya'lls disillusioned moral and superiority complex. The issue with Democrats this election cycle is where they feign outrage and cherry pick social justice issues while saying they are the moral party, but whose outrage conveniently disappears when real change threatens their status. People saw their masks fall off and the gaslighting, which rubs many the wrong way instead of the devil you see telling it like it is.
Trump appealed to current economic situation and poor/working class people showed up en masse. Ya'll cannot blame anyone, but your Democrats. They had FOUR YEARS.
As awful as Trump is, people seem empowered and emboldened by his leadership. We should sit with that and why people feel they have no agency or economic mobility under Democrats. To me, that is a larger critique of the state and the voting system.
Trump appealed to current economic situation and poor/working class people showed up en masse. Ya'll cannot blame anyone, but your Democrats. They had FOUR YEARS.
As awful as Trump is, people seem empowered and emboldened by his leadership. We should sit with that and why people feel they have no agency or economic mobility under Democrats. To me, that is a larger critique of the state and the voting system.
Now those tarrifs are gonna teach a lot of folks a hard lesson unfortunately
Yep. The craziest part is they didn't even hide it. They straight up said that it's going to crash and you're going to be in for a lot of pain and people still voted for it.
elpablo21
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Anti-war rhetoric lmaoooooo
superblytrife
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I wonder if
paulwest1985
would be in here taking victory laps like he is now if Harris would’ve won? Ya know, since he didn’t like either platform and voted third party.
Intersante.
paulwest1985
would be in here taking victory laps like he is now if Harris would’ve won? Ya know, since he didn’t like either platform and voted third party. Intersante.
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We NEVER heard anybody in Trumpworld or the GOP even give hypothetical credence to this idea after 2020 (and '12/'08 pre-MAGA), they just doubled and tripled down on appeals to their base instead of moving an inch to the other side and look where that got them
It's only on one side that the conventional wisdom after electoral defeats is always having to bend over backwards to throw away your principles to appeal to the very same folks rejecting your prior appeals and litigate the issues on your adversaries terms.
They already have their own party and doing that comes at the very real cost of your own base. It's not even that complex, it's losing politics plain and simple.
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Yea Elon said it in plain english for everyone to hear and everyone enthusiatically said, sign me the hell up
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these losers are really running this play again.
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Your Matt Yglesias centrism appeals to nobody…it got crushed again. It would have gotten crushed in 2020 if it weren’t for Covid. You push to the left and focus on actual redistributive issues, that’s the only playbook.
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NT told me all those donations mattered. Record # of donations for Kamala and nothing. It was a blowout.
It all comes down to people just got tired of how soft America was getting on a lot of policies. This country definitely not ready for a woman president anytime soon.
It all comes down to people just got tired of how soft America was getting on a lot of policies. This country definitely not ready for a woman president anytime soon.
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Can't even laugh at this **** anymore. He won. I can't even laugh at him bro. He won twice. Like the air is out of the room. It feels different that 2016. Like, then we were shocked by the stupidity. But now.. I'm not even surprised. I'm drained.
Feels like Aaron Paul. He can't keep getting away with this.
elpablo21
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This woman is so disingenuous lol
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The meme makes me think about how we see whenever the GOP/MAGA lose elections, they'll blame Dems/any and everybody and their mother BUT their own voter base in the aftermathA lot of this energy here:
When the Dems lose?
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Thinking about your comment from the other day. I'm pretty sure those rich folks that publicly supported Kamala might have turned around and voted for Trump. I mean, who would even know if they did?
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what are you are talking about?
Joe Biden moved to the left on literally everything
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I remember this tactic back in 2016 too. Trump ran on pitting Hillary Clinton as a warmonger, and many thought U.S. was going to be pushed to go to war against Iran.
Didn't Trump say all these wars would not have happened under him? Going off on how he can tell Putin to stop, and he would?
People also kept seeing how much Democrats were funneling to wars in Ukraine and Gaza, when at home, people just living paycheck to paycheck, and that's ALL Trump needed to make it as another angle to focus on economic/class struggle.
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I still don't believe that the elusive 'Never Trumper' voter actually existed in this electorate tbh.
Lot of these conservatives who raised money with the help of dems are going to fall in line in short order watch
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I'm sorry, I don't get what your trying to say here. I believe that a majority of latinos are for tougher immigration laws. Even those that immigrated themselves, they see it as having done it the "right way"
When you say she doubled down, what are you referring to? The bill that failed earlier this year because the right needed the immigration issue to stay relevant for the election?
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I mean the negative messaging on ACA was unpopular and stopped them from repealing. On student loans, Dems ended up looking weak when they ran on it only to dismantled by the hyper partisan SC. It doesn’t change the fact that these things are popular. The right wing megaphone is working when you talk to immigrants about the left being communists like they were trying to flee in their home countries, and obviously resonating with men in a variety of different ways with how society is changing.
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Americans don't understand how foreign policy works, which is a shame because it's really all the president is good for.
Trump will go further right on Israel, so good luck with voters on that Iran issue
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