***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[ninjahood]

Extremist environmentals lol

yes extremists environmentalists.

folks be chaining themselves inside pipe lines and bomb construction sites.

they even against natural gas. straight doofuses folks.

Yeah none of that happened at the protest site though. They just don't want their water to be ****** up or their sacred grounds disturbed.

And the Army corps agreed, and they stand for the flag, so you're unamerican if you don't agree [emoji]128064[/emoji]

army co of engineers just following marching orders from Obama.

there's dozens of pipelines that already intersect that same river upstream.

politicizing oil pipelines that da keep it in da ground crowd is pursuing now going kaput January.

It's okay, protesters aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Expect more army vets, scientists, and regular people to be out there in the future if need be.

after December if they don't move on their own their being moved by da national guards.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

What has become obvious to me is that...

Trump voters always knew Trump was a con man...they just thought they were IN on the con.




They are JUST now finding that they're the marks.

 

[RustyShackleford]

And there have been plenty of pipeline leaks over the years too.

Your point?

point is 1 more isn't gonna move da needle either way.

and oil is way more dangerous being transported by trains and more energy intensive than pipeline transport.

da point is moot January so.. Obama can regulate till his thumbs bleed, its all getting repealed on day one.

So won't the smart thing to do is make sure the route of pipelines don't threaten water supplies in case of a spill...............just like they're doing now in Dakota ?

That seems like a reasonable compromise, so why are you calling people extremist?

And it is funny that you and republicans support Keystone so hard, given it was going to benefit a NAFTA partner more than us, and the amount of eminent domain that would have popped off to get it built. You know, since y'all so concern with liberty and citizen's rights and all.

 

[EddieDoyers]

Hope not for the planets sake :x

Da muscle car gotta be affordable b

Are hemis even that expensive? A dodger charger hemi ranges from 30k to 40k unless you get the hellcat....prices aren't going to drop much because of competition, hell I would just lease one

ur buying into Rusty's falsehoods.

cafe fuel mandates would make muscle cars something da government would fine outta existence, thus killing them off.

Lol so? Who really gives a **** about muscle cars

Funny thing is that there's still plenty of "muscle cars" out there
I don't get the fear
Prices aren't going to change much even if they repeal the cafe laws. The 2-3k decrease in MSRP would just be eliminated by the amount u pay at the gas station for a year or two depending on how much u drive a gas guzzler.

 

[RustyShackleford]

What has become obvious to me is that...

Trump voters always knew Trump was a con man...they just thought they were IN on the con.




They are JUST now finding that they're the marks.

Perfect way to put it

 

[gry60]

there's dozens of pipelines that already intersect that same river upstream.

Ever occured to you that the geology where the new pipeline route is planned is not the same as where other pipelines have been installed?

That's another example of you making baseless assumptions and thinking that you have a point.

 

[ninjahood]

And there have been plenty of pipeline leaks over the years too.

Your point?

point is 1 more isn't gonna move da needle either way.

and oil is way more dangerous being transported by trains and more energy intensive than pipeline transport.

da point is moot January so.. Obama can regulate till his thumbs bleed, its all getting repealed on day one.

So won't the smart thing to do is make sure the route of pipelines don't threaten water supplies in case of a spill...............just like they're doing now in Dakota ?

That seems like a reasonable compromise, so why are you calling people extremist?

its called "death by delay"

u think delays Don't cost money?

thats da whole point...

 

[RIP sleazyy]

The national guard didn't even end this protest.

Protesters who are really about their cause aren't afraid of tanks and machine guns. That's the point, not being bullied into submission.

What has become obvious to me is that...

Trump voters always knew Trump was a con man...they just thought they were IN on the con.




They are JUST now finding that they're the marks.

The sense made here is not to be overlooked.

 

[ninjahood]

there's dozens of pipelines that already intersect that same river upstream.

Ever occured to you that the geology where the new pipeline route is planned is not the same as where other pipelines have been installed?

That's another example of you making baseless assumptions and thinking that you have a point.

that rerouting is a delay tactic, it has no basis on merits since similar pipelines already cross da same river.

 

[RustyShackleford]

And there have been plenty of pipeline leaks over the years too.

Your point?

point is 1 more isn't gonna move da needle either way.

and oil is way more dangerous being transported by trains and more energy intensive than pipeline transport.

da point is moot January so.. Obama can regulate till his thumbs bleed, its all getting repealed on day one.

So won't the smart thing to do is make sure the route of pipelines don't threaten water supplies in case of a spill...............just like they're doing now in Dakota ?

That seems like a reasonable compromise, so why are you calling people extremist?

its called "death by delay"

u think delays Don't cost money?

thats da whole point...

It is called keeping water supplies safe

You think cleaning up rivers, and class action lawsuits don't cost money

That's the whole point.........

-These pipelines bring in a ton and always looking to get built, if you a rational economic actor, a small delay is not gonna kill you interest in. building it

 

[AZwildcats]

 

[ninjahood]

Trump gonna come and green light da pipeline


so.....whats da advocates gonna do...riot over a pipeline that already won on court twice? good luck on that.

 

[whywesteppin]

i have a feeling Trump's whole family is going down.

it won't be pretty.

 

[titanium tea]

Trump gonna come and green light da pipeline


so.....whats da advocates gonna do...riot over a pipeline that already won on court twice?

good luck on that.

Im glad.   All these fake environmental nut jobs act like putting all the damn gas in trains and big rigs is better for the water than a pipeline.

Absolute fools.

Trains full of gas have literally burned towns to the ground while people scorched in bed.

Trucks kill people and spill everyday on the highways.

These trees > human life idiots are the worst

 

[RustyShackleford]

Trees can supply food and oxygen

They probably definitely contribute more to this world than you.

Hell I bet a common house plant would contribute more quality post to NT than you have

 

[deleted]

They probably contribute more to this world than you.

Replace "probably" with "definitely" b

 

[gry60]

there's dozens of pipelines that already intersect that same river upstream.

Ever occured to you that the geology where the new pipeline route is planned is not the same as where other pipelines have been installed?

That's another example of you making baseless assumptions and thinking that you have a point.

that rerouting is a delay tactic, it has no basis on merits since similar pipelines already cross da same river.

And you know that how exactly?

You have absolutely no idea what factors are considered when such construction projects are considered and how location affects their feasibility, but you are here speaking with authority.

titanium tea

Oil spills destabilize regions, dude. Do you know what the locals do when they can no longer live off their environment? They migrate to cities or foreign countries.

They turn into economic migrants.

It's unbelievable how shortsighted some of you are.

 

[Master Zik]

there's nothing that he can do that would doom him outside deporting illegals who have been otherwise innocuous.


da way he effectively replaces Obamacare will be something to watch to..


other then that? he's got wide latitude to go ham.

I suppose this is some progress though you're still dancing around voicing your own criticism by referring to his public approval ratings with "doom him".

Getting ninja to give direct answers is more painful than pulling teeth. A futile exercise.

He'll just dance around stuff like that in a trollish way not to fully commit so as to not look wrong later or explain himself.

 

[ninjahood]

And you know that how exactly?

because da Dakota access won 2 federal cases allowing da project proceed.

what Obama did is call for more studies to stall da project and eventually kill it ala keystone.

 

[essential1]

Trump now tough talking China on Twitter.

Good luck with that.

 

[RustyShackleford]

And you know that how exactly?

because da Dakota access won 2 federal cases allowing da project proceed.

what Obama did is call for more studies to stall da project and eventually kill it ala keystone.

Keystone was not killed this way, use Google please.

All they are doing with this is saying "find a new route for the pipeline". This has already been done before, they were concerns about other routes and potential leaks before, and it was rerouted before.

Educate yourself, Ninja.

 

[titanium tea]

Trees can supply food and oxygen

They probably definitely contribute more to this world than you.

Hell I bet a common house plant would contribute more quality post to NT than you have

I like how you didnt refute a single thing about trucks and trains being more dangerous transportation methods.

Just more cry baby attacks based on feelings.

Maybe if a big rig crossed the double yellows and blasted your family off the side of a cliff you would have that empathy you and columbia are always banging on about.

Nope just another excuse to comb over any logic in an attempt to uncover secret disenfranchisement.   

 

[RustyShackleford]

Trees can supply food and oxygen


They probably definitely contribute more to this world than you.


Hell I bet a common house plant would contribute more quality post to NT than you have

I like how you didnt refute a single thing about trucks and trains being more dangerous transportation methods.
Just more cry baby attacks based on feelings.
Maybe if a big rig crossed the double yellows and blasted your family off the side of a cliff you would have that empathy you and columbia are always banging on about.

Nope just another excuse to comb over any logic in an attempt to uncover secret disenfranchisement.   

I already said I wasn't against pipelines. But this is also about securing a water supply.

And you're the biggest cry baby in here. Constantly complaining about how the world doesn't see you as the great white man as that you delude yourself to be.

I am not scared to debate policy with anyone, especially not a childish know nothing.

 

[ninjahood]

And you know that how exactly?

because da Dakota access won 2 federal cases allowing da project proceed.

what Obama did is call for more studies to stall da project and eventually kill it ala keystone.

Keystone was not killed this way, use Google please.

umm yes they did...then congress got tired of da foot dragging, once they passed a bill that expedited da pipeline Obama killed it to pander to his extreme environmentalists constituency & his rich green donors.

this is no different.

 

[RustyShackleford]

And you know that how exactly?

because da Dakota access won 2 federal cases allowing da project proceed.

what Obama did is call for more studies to stall da project and eventually kill it ala keystone.

Keystone was not killed this way, use Google please.

umm yes they did...then congress got tired of da foot dragging, once they passed a bill that expedited da pipeline Obama killed it to pander to his extreme environmentalists constituency & his rich green donors.

this is no different.

Yes it is different.

Keystone was vetoed.

This pipeline will happen if they can find another route.