***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[EddieDoyers]

Shepard Smith tired of these GOP f-boys

 

[AEA18]

Spicer's press conferences is always hilarious.

Bruh is saying CBO is inaccurate in their financial reporting smh

Like a circus bathroom

 

[RustyShackleford]

The GOP is mad at the Dems for calling the bill "Trumpcare", saying it has an official name,

 

[Mark Antony]

The GOP is man at the Dems for calling the bill "Trumpcare", saying it has an official name,

 

[trueprada]

 

[aepps20]

The GOP is full of F boys. Paul Ryan been an idiot. I loved when Joey B destroyed them.

 

[noskey]

The GOP is mad at the Dems for calling the bill "Trumpcare", saying it has an official name,

Come on guys, it's got a name already. "Ryancare."

 

[aepps20]

Trumpcare or F Boy Care?

 

[IATT]

Globalnews.ca‏Verified account  @globalnews 6h6 hours ago

BREAKING: Trudeau announces $650M investment for women's sexual, reproduction health programspic.twitter.com/idwPsiOfDW

 

[dreamer23]

slight political relation....

Globalnews.ca‏Verified account @globalnews 6h6 hours ago
BREAKING: Trudeau announces $650M investment for women's sexual, reproduction health programspic.twitter.com/idwPsiOfDW

2 days after this ruling....

Canada Judge Rules 'Drunk Can Consent' in Sexual Assault Case

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/ne...ent-in-Sexual-Assault-Case-20170307-0025.html

 

[sundoobie]

So, almost everyone loses in the new health care plan.

NO. Folks making over 200k pay less income taxes (medicare surcharge of 0.9%) and on their investment income (3.8%).

Then you have the employers whom are relived of the mandated requirement.

So if you're in those 2 groups regardless of party affiliation.. it's a WIN.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

NO. Folks making over 200k pay less income taxes (medicare surcharge of 0.9%) and on their investment income (3.8%).

Then you have the employers whom are relived of the mandated requirement.

So if you're in those 2 groups regardless of party affiliation.. it's a WIN.

yahooo!

 

[MVP]

NO. Folks making over 200k pay less income taxes (medicare surcharge of 0.9%) and on their investment income (3.8%).

Then you have the employers whom are relived of the mandated requirement.

So if you're in those 2 groups regardless of party affiliation.. it's a WIN.

The rich get richer! And those employers surely will pass those savings down to their employees!

 

[EddieDoyers]

NO. Folks making over 200k pay less income taxes (medicare surcharge of 0.9%) and on their investment income (3.8%).

Then you have the employers whom are relived of the mandated requirement.

So if you're in those 2 groups regardless of party affiliation.. it's a WIN.

The rich get richer! And those employers surely will pass those savings down to their employees!

dat trickle down economics

 

[sundoobie]

yahooo!

That's America's healthcare system for you.

Under Obama... the rich and corporations were angry cause they have to pay more taxes to help subsidize

Under Trump... low-income families, women, senior citizens and the disabled are angry because they will lose coverage and premium increases

 

[RustyShackleford]

It is like the GOP can't help but make everything they do be about cutting taxes for the upper classes.

 

[aepps20]

To be honest, most of us knew the best fix to the ACA was a shift to the left but the GOP going to GOP.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Someone said it best on twitter.


The entire GOP argument was built on lies and the jig is now up.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

In the months since Election Day, it has become increasingly apparent that a reasonably large number of Republican Party legislators either didn’t understand that the campaign against Obamacare was based on lies or else had never really considered the implications of that reality.

Either way, the problem with passing a law that is going to make people’s health coverage worse while promising that it will get better is pretty obvious: People will notice when they lose insurance or when their deductible skyrockets.

They will also hear stories from friends, relatives, and co-workers.

Doctors, hospitals, and other health care providers are also going to notice that their patients don’t have the money to afford coverage. You can win an election based on a lie. You can even pass a bill based on a lie if you want. But you can’t expect that you’re going to get away with it.

http://www.vox.com/2017/3/8/14843762/ahca-republican-lies-obamacare

The jig as ascended to untold heights.

 

[IATT]

 

[EddieDoyers]

GOP is stuck between a rock and a hard place now
If they don't repeal ACA, Koch and other wealthy donors will be furious at them and they will lose voters
If they do repeal ACA and replace it with their current plan, they will lose voters also because it will be a f-ton more expensive and a lot of their voter base will accelerate their deaths

Good luck to them

 

[RustyShackleford]

GOP is stuck between a rock and a hard place now
If they don't repeal ACA, Koch and other wealthy donors will be furious at them and they will lose voters
If they do repeal ACA and replace it with their current plan, they will lose voters also because it will be a f-ton more expensive and a lot of their voter base will accelerate their deaths

Good luck to them

 

[EddieDoyers]

GOP is stuck between a rock and a hard place now
If they don't repeal ACA, Koch and other wealthy donors will be furious at them and they will lose voters
If they do repeal ACA and replace it with their current plan, they will lose voters also because it will be a f-ton more expensive and a lot of their voter base will accelerate their deaths

Good luck to them

I meant that with sarcasm

 

[seandon23]

 

[EddieDoyers]

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/55-year-time-voter-chose-trump-protests-large/story?id=45991134

55-year-old first-time voter who chose Trump protests large increase in health costs

After voting for the first time at the age of 55, for Donald Trump, Martha Brawley is worried that the main issue the brought her to the polls, health insurance coverage, is going to become worse.

The Monroe, North Carolina, resident said she fears the new Republican health bill will significantly raise her premiums.

"I’m 55. This is the first time in my life I voted and I voted for Trump hoping that he would change the insurance, so I could get good health care," Brawley told ABC News. "I might as well have not voted."

She first spoke to the New York Times about her concern that she would receive thousands less in tax credits to help her buy health care coverage under the proposed American Health Care Act (AHCA), dubbed "Trumpcare."

Brawley reportedly receives approximately $8,688 in health care subsidies to pay for insurance, but under the proposed bill would receive $3,500 a year in tax credits, according to the New York Times.

AARP, the interest group that advocates for senior citizens, shares the concern. The organization sent a letter to Congress yesterday saying the proposed bill would "dramatically increase health care costs for Americans aged 50-64."

Many seniors could face a significant increase in health care premiums, since insurance companies will be allowed to charge seniors five times as much as a younger people for a comparable plan. Under the current Affordable Care Act (ACA), they are limited to charging three times as much. The new tax credits proposed in the AHCA, which will be dispensed based mainly on age and income, would also be fewer for older Americans compared to the ACA making the insurance even more expensive.

"Taken together, premiums for older adults could increase by as much as $3,600 for a 55-year old earning $25,000 a year, $7,000 for a 64-year old earning $25,000 a year and up to $8,400 for a 64-year old earning $15,000 a year," AARP officials said in their letter. The group said a typical senior seeking insurance on the state exchange has an income under $25,000.

David Certner, Legislative Counsel and Legislative Policy Director for Government Affairs at AARP, said the plan will "stunningly raise" premiums for older Americans.

"This is a national problem in terms of the fact that the older and lower income you are, the bigger the premium hike," Certner told ABC News.

On "Good Morning America," Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price, said "our goal is to make certain costs come down."

In response to Brawley's complaints about her potential insurance cost increase, Price raised the issue of choice.

"We want to make sure she is able to select physician and treatment that she wants," he said.

When pressed about whether he could guarantee coverage for Brawley, Price cited other aspects of the proposal including state grants and said "you can't pick out one individual and say that individual isn't going to be able to get coverage. Right now people are losing coverage. We have a plan that will allow individuals to pick the coverage that they want and ... the physician and treatment model that they want."

Brawley said she isn't convinced lawmakers understand her challenges and she is waiting to see what happens.

"All these people who talk in politics have insurance. People like me don’t," Brawley told ABC News. "They can talk big and all we can do is step back and hope for the best. We are at their mercy."