***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[cl-1b]

The KKK is co-signing the Republican leading candidate brah.

and that means the republican party supports them? That really doesn't mean anything to be honest with you. Both political parties have groups of racist people in this country that show support such as KKK, black panthers ect. Hell even Dr King was a republican. 

Back to the facts tho.... Im still waiting on someone to tell me that its not the socialist leftists / democrats fault Detroit is where its at, or radical leftist Baltimore, or lefty Chicago where I'm from (don't even let me get started with Rahm) who btw was on the board of Freddie Mac under Clinton (yes the pre-cursor to the housing bubble era), all straight political corruption. Campaign contributions and irregular instances on the accounting books. Obama even threw out the freedoms act request to review the board... Hmmm funny they were political buddys in Chicago. lol. Then the Clintons. They have been some of the most Politically corrupt politicians in the USA, and he actually was one of only two presidents in us history to be impeached. 

 

[Armada]

Did you really just call the Black Panthers a racist group?!??!?!? You really don't know ******* anything at all do you??!?!? 

 

[cl-1b]

 
Did you really just call the Black Panthers a racist group?!??!?!? You really don't know ******* anything at all do you??!?!? 

The new black panthers aren't racist?? what about Farrakhan and the nation of islam? not racist either? Give me a ******* break 

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

I'm still waiting for NT's conservative fam to give me their thoughts on why white supremacists lean republican/conservative.

 

[Armada]

 

 
Did you really just call the Black Panthers a racist group?!??!?!? You really don't know ******* anything at all do you??!?!? 

The new black panthers aren't racist?? what about Farrakhan and the nation of islam? not racist either? Give me a ******* break 

You didn't specify new black panthers you just said black panthers so you should have been specific from the beginning. But to answer your question I don't rock with Farrakhan or the new black panthers because I don't think they represent what they Black Panthers are meant to be.

 

[RustyShackleford]

 
Did you really just call the Black Panthers a racist group?!??!?!? You really don't know ******* anything at all do you??!?!? 

The new black panthers aren't racist?? what about Farrakhan and the nation of islam? not racist either? Give me a ******* break 

How many white churches did the Panthers bomb, how many white people where lynched by the panthers, and many white people did the Panthers hunt, rape and murder.

Please, answer me those questions

Using violence to fight back against violence is not the same as hateful unprovoked domestic terrorism

I'll just add the Civil Rights movement to the long list of stuff you're apparently ignorance about

 

[cl-1b]

How many white churches did the Panthers bomb, how many white people where lynched by the panthers, and many white people did the Panthers hunt, rape and murder.

Please, answer me those questions

Using violence to fight back against violence is not the same as hateful unprovoked domestic terrorism

Im not taking up for any of these radical groups. The question I'm asking is.. are they not racist? Is the nation of islam not a black supremacist group? 

 

[essential1]

 
Did you really just call the Black Panthers a racist group?!??!?!? You really don't know ******* anything at all do you??!?!? 

The new black panthers aren't racist?? what about Farrakhan and the nation of islam? not racist either? Give me a ******* break 

Yeahhhhh when you find 10 people in the New Black Panthers... Let us know...

Also when you find anyone of any influence in the New Black Panthers who is apart of the group, or even acknowledges them, let us know...


The New Black Panthers are the equivalent of a 14 year old suburban kid on XBox Live in terms of influence.

 

[cl-1b]

Yeahhhhh when you find 10 people in the New Black Panthers... Let us know...

Also when you find anyone of any influence in the New Black Panthers who is apart of the group, or supports them, let us know...


The New Black Panthers are the equivalent of a 14 year old suburban kid on XBox Live.

There aren't even close to 10,000 KKK members... There are more GD's in Chicago, or bloods in bompton, or Cs in long beach then these ppl. 

But they are racist and support the left. What about Farrakhan and the Nation of islam tho? 

Im still waiting for an answer about detroit, baltimore, chicago too btw 

 

[cl-1b]

Racism is alive on both sides in america and we cannot solve the issue broke & in debt either... its just going to create more issues.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Yeahhhhh when you find 10 people in the New Black Panthers... Let us know...


Also when you find anyone of any influence in the New Black Panthers who is apart of the group, or supports them, let us know...



The New Black Panthers are the equivalent of a 14 year old suburban kid on XBox Live.

There aren't even close to 10,000 KKK members... There are more GD's in Chicago, or bloods in bompton, or Cs in long beach then these ppl. 


But they are racist and support the left. What about Farrakhan and the Nation of islam tho? 

Im still waiting for an answer about detroit, baltimore, chicago too btw 

You made that claim you have to prove it first. Which you haven't even attempted to. All you have is the usual weak correlation argument

Explain to me then, why the poorest states in the Union and firmly red states. Explain to me why deep tax and spending cuts in Kansas have been outright failures. Since you want to pick and choose stuff to fit your flimsy argument

Furthermore, now you're bringing gangs into this? Street gangs are all of a sudden on the same level as domestic terrorist groups.

What white people do the GDs go around terrorizing, how many marches on state capitals do they perform spewing racism. Huh? how many

-There is racist white people, and there are racist black people.

But the black community has zero power over the white community. There is no black supremacy, but white supremacy is alive and well

And the GOP is the official party of it

 

[cl-1b]

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You made that claim you have to prove it first. Which you haven't even attempted to. All you have is the usual weak correlation argument

Explain to me then, why the poorest states in the Union and firmly red states. Explain to me why deep tax and spending cuts in Kansas have been outright failures. Since you want to pick and choose stuff to fit your flimsy argument

Furthermore, now you're bringing gangs into this? Street gangs are all of a sudden on the same level as domestic terrorist groups.

What white people do the GDs go around terrorizing, how many marches on state capitals do they perform spewing racism. Huh? how many

We can talk financial if you want, but racism is the topic my brother. i don't give a **** tho.. Chicago is still racially segregated by neighborhood (except a few common hoods). in 2016. Not that its like it was 200 years ago, but I'm just saying,. 

Actually Flint / Detroit are the poorest in the nation. Ran by leftists. 

 

[essential1]

 

Actually Flint / Detroit is the poorest in the nation. Ran by leftists. 

You do know those were actually some of the richest cities in the US for a long time.

And then labor unions were dismantled, leading to lower wages, or just straight up firing people.... Then after all of that, they moved jobs to the South to non-union states..

And when even non-union factory workers in the South were too expensive, they move those factories overseas.

Turns out... It had nothing to do with Labor Unions at all


Those economies were built on labor.... And when the rug was pulled from under labor.... There was and there will not be a way to sustain a city that was built on certain types of jobs. Also they are poor because people massively fled those cities... Due to a lack of jobs.. And when people flee, it decrease your tax revenue... And there is no way to fix that city if there is no money..

 

[RustyShackleford]

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You made that claim you have to prove it first. Which you haven't even attempted to. All you have is the usual weak correlation argument


Explain to me then, why the poorest states in the Union and firmly red states. Explain to me why deep tax and spending cuts in Kansas have been outright failures. Since you want to pick and choose stuff to fit your flimsy argument


Furthermore, now you're bringing gangs into this? Street gangs are all of a sudden on the same level as domestic terrorist groups.


What white people do the GDs go around terrorizing, how many marches on state capitals do they perform spewing racism. Huh? how many

We can talk financial if you want, but racism is the topic my brother. i don't give a **** tho.. Chicago is still racially segregated by neighborhood (except a few common hoods). in 2016. Not that its like it was 200 years ago, but I'm just saying,. 

Actually Flint / Detroit is the poorest in the nation. Ran by leftists. 

-If the topic is racism , you seem to have a very elementary understanding of it. Because the concepts of white supremacy and systemic racism are lost on you

Not only that, you're trying to compare street gangs to a hate group, at also used to indulge in domestic terrorism

-Someone of the things that lead to the downfall of those cities were out of the hands of the "leftist" that ran them.

-And the poorest states in the country are run by Republicans btw. But of course, you will completely ignore this fact

 

[essential1]

-And the poorest states in the country and run by Republicans.

Also the states with the poorest education.... Also happen to be the states, run by Republicans

 

[cl-1b]

But what about Detroit or Baltimore or Chicago? No one in this thread has anything to say about any of that.. yet they continue to support the same party of people that have been in positions of power in these places. 

You do know those were actually some of the richest cities in the US for a long time.

And then labor unions were dismantled, leading to lower wages, or just straight up firing people.... Then after all of that, they moved jobs to the South to non-union states..

And when even non-union factory workers in the South were too expensive, they move those factories overseas.

Turns out... It had nothing to do with Labor Unions at all


Those economies were built on labor.... And when the rug was pulled from under labor.... There was and there will not be a way to sustain a city that was built on certain types of jobs. Also they are poor because people massively fled those cities... Due to a lack of jobs.. And when people flee, it decrease your tax revenue... And there is no way to fix that city if there is no money..

You should look into the city of detroit's pension program. That might give you an understanding of why they had to declare bankruptcy, but at the time they were under billions of dollars in unpaid pension liabilities due to an overage of public workers. What about Kwame Kilpatrick and his corruption? or the 78,000 abandoned buildings in the city? Or 2/3's of ambulances out of service? Caused purely by democratic leftist's 

 

[SneakerProSr.]

But what about Detroit or Baltimore or Chicago? No one in this thread has anything to say about any of that.. yet they continue to support the same party of people that have been in positions of power in these places. 

You do know those were actually some of the richest cities in the US for a long time.


And then labor unions were dismantled, leading to lower wages, or just straight up firing people.... Then after all of that, they moved jobs to the South to non-union states..


And when even non-union factory workers in the South were too expensive, they move those factories overseas.


Turns out... It had nothing to do with Labor Unions at all



Those economies were built on labor.... And when the rug was pulled from under labor.... There was and there will not be a way to sustain a city that was built on certain types of jobs. Also they are poor because people massively fled those cities... Due to a lack of jobs.. And when people flee, it decrease your tax revenue... And there is no way to fix that city if there is no money..

You should look into the city of detroit's pension program. That might give you an understanding of why they had to declare bankruptcy, but at the time they were under billions of dollars in unpaid pension liabilities due to an overage of public workers. What about Kwame Kilpatrick and his corruption? or the 78,000 abandoned buildings in the city? Or 2/3's of ambulances out of service? Caused purely by democratic leftist's 

Yeah the auto industry packing up and leaving town shipping job to Canada and Mexico had nothing to do with this.

Blame "leftist"

 

[SneakerProSr.]

Also I need to know when the Nation Of Islam has endorsed a President Candidate in this election.

 

[essential1]

37 of the last 53 years Michigan has had a Republican Governor


Every year since 1984, the State Senate has been controlled by Republicans.


15 years since 1984, the State House has been controlled by Republicans... 15 years with Democratic Control... 1 year tied.


A city that is in financial trouble, whether it is Democratic or Republican can RARELY help itself.. It needs state help.


You think a city is just going to magically fix itself when most of its high paying jobs leave, and their middle class losses their jobs and are now either under the poverty line, or forced to move away for income/employment...

So where are you finding that money to fix itself... Certainly don't have it from tax revenue..

 

[SneakerProSr.]

Can we talk about why the poorest and least educated people in this country that vote, vote Republican

 

[SneakerProSr.]

Can we talk about why the right is so quick to bring Detroit and Chicago but not Portland or Austin.

 

[cl-1b]

37 of the last 53 years Michigan has had a Republican Governor


Every year since 1984, the State Senate has been controlled by Republicans.


15 years since 1984, the State House has been controlled by Republicans... 15 years with Democratic Control... 1 year tied.


A city that is in financial trouble, whether it is Democratic or Republican can RARELY help itself.. It needs state help.


You think a city is just going to magically fix itself when most of its high paying jobs leave, and their middle class losses their jobs and are now either under the poverty line, or forced to move away for income/employment...

So where are you finding that money to fix itself... Certainly don't have it from tax revenue..

Take a better look into the democratic history regarding the leadership of the city of detroit and how the ridiculous public pension program sent them into bankruptcy to have a better understanding 

 

[cl-1b]

Can we talk about why the right is so quick to bring Detroit and Chicago but not Portland or Austin.

don't forget baltimore now 

 

[cl-1b]

-If the topic is racism , you seem to have a very elementary understanding of it. Because the concepts of white supremacy and systemic racism are lost on you

Not only that, you're trying to compare street gangs to a hate group, at also used to indulge in domestic terrorism

-Someone of the things that lead to the downfall of those cities were out of the hands of the "leftist" that ran them.

-And the poorest states in the country are run by Republicans btw. But of course, you will completely ignore this fact

The only comparison i made of those groups were size. The KKK isn't even the size of a modern day street gang...  

My point being that there is racism on both sides of the spectrum. thats all.

and you keep mentioning white supremacy like black supremacy doesn't exist brother 

 

[cl-1b]

Can we talk about why the right is so quick to bring Detroit and Chicago but not Portland or Austin.

Crime rate, corruption, segregation just to name a few.