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The reality of this is that the sky isn't the limit for you. You brag about potentially being able to make $90k if you work a lot of overtime after getting whatever degree you need. And that's certainly not to knock that at all, but that doesn't exactly look like the sky is the limit.

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da beautiful thing about limits is when you accomplish em, you're more than welcome to set some new goals...ahh America...thank you.
 
That's what I was trying to say, life was better in Europe for black american jazz musicians in Copenhagen, or a writer/playwright like Baldwin in Paris because there were more economic opportunities there for them in their fields, also Europeans appreciated their craft more and it was a no brainer for many of those Jazz Musicians to be worshipped there and make more money, have groupies etc. rather than living like 2nd class citizens in America. However, just because life for them was better over there doesn't mean that life there would be better for the average regular black american at that time if they just moved to Europe

It was not only members the creative class that moved. Baldwin directly cites racism as his reason. And members of the black creative class still faced racism. Hell their economic opportunities were better in Europe partly because of Jim Crow.

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why would i believe that when Lebron James & Nasir Jones walk and breathe on planet earth?
Some staunch racists use individual success to try and "disprove" the prevalence of racism in our society. (e.g. America can't be racist, because Oprah is wealthy.) It's like using the existence of rockets to "disprove" gravity.

If you do not believe that Black people are in any way inferior, then you have to account for disparate social outcomes somehow.

To this point, you've cited things like "Chicago gun crime" and "the knock out game" to make it appear like disparities in the criminal justice system are justified. This leads people to believe that you're trying to argue that Black Americans are somehow predisposed to criminal behavior.

If you don't think it's biology, and you don't think it's culture, why are incarceration rates so disproportionate if not for systemic racism?

If you want to avoid being portrayed as a racist, let's continue to keep things as simple as possible.
 
That's what I was trying to say, life was better in Europe for black american jazz musicians in Copenhagen, or a writer/playwright like Baldwin in Paris because there were more economic opportunities there for them in their fields, also Europeans appreciated their craft more and it was a no brainer for many of those Jazz Musicians to be worshipped there and make more money, have groupies etc. rather than living like 2nd class citizens in America. However, just because life for them was better over there doesn't mean that life there would be better for the average regular black american at that time if they just moved to Europe
My point is lost on you and you are deflecting to obfuscate the intent of my comments in regards to Ninja's. And you post misses the important fact that black people including music acts had to fear being murdered in most part of America during that time. Not just they could not get bookings.

Plus Europe was not the only place. Like I said the previous time we had this discussion, there was also places in the Caribbean.

If all you want to do is play devil's advocate for Ninja, then me and you have nothing left to say to each other on this point. Ninja's assertion was nonsense, period.
 
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Why do you keep posting the video if you yourself think the knock out game is a myth?

So you keep posting a video and articles claiming this made up talking point was somehow true, yet you disagree with these articles and videos?. Let us remember the knock out game was pedaled as a national phenomenon of black teens committing assault for fun. One knock head saying he punch a guy as a game doesn't prove the bigger talking point. Isolated incidents were combined to pedal a lie.

Remember the first time you posted it was in response to me bringing up your previous comments regarding black people committing crimes.

So you either believe the racist knock out game talking point or you don't. Posting the video over and over proves nothing.
 
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Posting the video over and over proves nothing.

da video gets reposted because you insist on misquoting me, when da culprit who said "he was bored" said it.

furthermore, my left wing link also confirmed da "phenomenon" so that talking point u won't let go? might wanna lay off it. :lol
 
da video gets reposted because you insist on misquoting me, when da culprit who said "he was bored" said it.

furthermore, my left wing link also confirmed da "phenomenon" so that talking point u won't let go? might wanna lay off it. :lol:
So let me get this straight, you are asserting that the knockout game was real. In other words that black kids across the country was assaulting white people for fun. Like it some sort of cinnamon challenge.

The knockout game, how the media was framing it, was a blatant lie that was implied some of the vilest stereotypes about young black males. It was implicitly racist then, and in 2017 given what we know now, it is explicitly racist to push the knockout game myth.

Thinking "a liberal link" means anything to me is nonsense. Like I said, I don't tolerate left wing racism either. Racism is not just some political talking point to me.

If you want to report me and Meth wants to ban me for saying such things. Then go ahead, it is what it is.
 
So let me get this straight, you are asserting that the knockout game was real. In other words that black kids across the country was assaulting white people for fun. Like it some sort of cinnamon challenge.

The knockout game, how the media was framing it, was a blatant lie that was implied some of the vilest stereotypes about young black males. It was implicitly racist then, and in 2017 given what we know now, it is explicitly racist to push the knockout game myth.

Thinking "a liberal link" means anything to me is nonsense. Like I said, I don't tolerate left wing racism either. Racism is not just some political talking point to me.

If you want to report me and Meth wants to ban me for saying such things. Then go ahead, it is what it is.

Da NPR link proves da black kids are super predators Rookie.
Maybe if they were employed as janitors they wouldnt get into so much trouble :emoji_bow::emoji_bow::emoji_raised_hands::emoji_eggplant:
 
Thinking "a liberal link" means anything to me is nonsense

aka imma parade my "knock out game was a myth" talking point damn your demonstration of media balance.

and you're strawman argument is weak, da knock out game was played by idiots of da entire skin/race rainbow.

da NPR link eviscerates your entire premise, thank you sir for laugh, i needed something to start my weekend on da right mood :lol:
 
you know what they say about people who assume....

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Then answer my question so people will get to see what you truly believe.

If you ask someone "did you punch that baby", they walk into a law library and don't come back out to answer your question until 2 hours later, you're going to make assumptions, too. You have the opportunity to set the record straight right now.
 
If you don't think it's biology, and you don't think it's culture, why are incarceration rates so disproportionate if not for systemic racism?

da answer is simple. its not black culture, its da culture of depravity which transcends race... unfortunately in Chicago they got a real a bad gang culture, that unfortunately for them it entices too many minorities in that city.
 
This man refuses to answer a direct question regarding if he is or isn't a racist. And tops if off with the Chicago name drop.

Amazing, simply amazing.
 
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