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The legislation im speaking of is the first step act and potential second step act.
Ah, so the top reason to vote for Donald Trump in 2020 was because he once declined to veto bipartisan legislation that: a) he did not previously campaign on, b) he later regretted signing, and, c) was substantially weaker than his opponents' desired reforms - the proposals for which, unlike the mythical "Second Step Act," actually exist.

You can repeat this whopper as often as you like. It will never be accepted as anything other than a vain, intellectually dishonest, utterly self-serving rationalization.

Expect to be called on it - every time.

I'll say it again: Donald Trump vetoed a defense spending bill passed by the "GOP-led Senate" to protect CONFEDERATE base names.
This is the guy you wanted to re-elect due to his "unique ability to pass key legislation?" Your boy was threatening a government shutdown over performative racism - and it's not even the first time. What's your answer for this?

Or this?

What, you can't even squeak out a "he could do better?"

Four more years of that is a fair trade for the unlikely possibility of a "potential second step act"?


Pathetic.


As I said before, 2016 was a rebuke a Clinton.
So your disdain for Hillary Clinton supersedes your "deep commitment" to criminal justice reform?

One person had a record in office and the other didn’t.
So - despite your prior statements to the contrary - your primary reason for voting for Donald Trump in 2016 was simply because he didn't have any relevant experience? Why not vote for Harambe or Jill Stein then? Neither of them held public office, and neither of them campaigned on nationwide stop and frisk. You'd think that would be disqualifying for someone as passionate about criminal justice reform as you claim to be.

And yet, the bipartisan crime bill you keep circling back to as cause to vote against the candidate with the comparatively superior criminal justice platform was signed at a time when she had not yet been individually elected to any public office.
If Trump's long and shameful history of racism could be excused simply because he did not hold an elected office at the time, why does that not apply to Hillary Clinton back when she made the infamous "super predators" comment? (Clinton, for her part, has at least expressed regret for the remarks - something Trump has consistently refused with regard to his Central Park Five ad, even AFTER their exoneration.)

You want to flip the narrative to me supporting Trump in 2016 for criminal justice reform. But It’s a red herring.
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It seems we can agree that you didn't give a damn about criminal justice reform in 2016. That much is obvious.

The only misdirection play here involves you attempting to act like you voted for Donald Trump - twice - to advance some sort of noble cause.

In any event, I’m for flipping the Senate now. Hopefully Biden can get some of his great proposals enacted.

I'll let you take this one:
You want to flip the narrative
You desperately want to change the subject, yet here you are, in 2021, still actively making excuses for supporting Trump.

For someone who now claims to care deeply about criminal justice reform, it is a simple statement of fact that you backed the worst possible candidate in the last two general elections. That choice cost lives.
It is in no way counteracted by kicking a scant few dollars from your questionably obtained, publicly-financed emergency relief loan to Rev. Warnock's campaign.
 
That doesn't rate at all when the president's lawyer is saying the vice president should face a firing squad.
 
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