RustyShackleford
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Congrats, you just started following politics in 2016
I had no idea Harry Reid opened the door on simple majority back in 2013 ... I could have sworn this was a Republican tactic prior, when realizing that the General was going to be so difficult to win going forward ...
There's a video floating around of McConnell warning Reid ... It's riveting ... Almost eerie given he seems to suggest that there time is coming in short order ...
Ughhhhhh
Do these people ever get tired bringing up the Bernie Bros when something bad happens?
They always assume most if not all of GJ/JS voters wouldve went for HRC too in which it was HRC’s job to court voters when the country is 50% independents (GO TO WISCONSIN NEXT TIME)
Most people, especially most people who are unlikely voters, have pretty materially bad lives. You gotta reach those people and stop blaming high propensity voters who did, in fact support your election bid.
Whenever I see the "More Bernie voters voted for Hillary than 2008 Hillary supporters voted for McCain" it always plays like a whataboustism to handwave away a legit criticism
Like are McCain 2008 and Trump 2016 even comparable? Of if you are a centrist, or upset over the primary in any way of course McCain is less offensive to whatever liberal views you have than Trump. And dare I say it, some Dems probably went away from Obama for other reason including his race.
2008 Clinton-to-McCain voters were ****ty, so are 2016 Sanders-to-Trump. Bringing up one doesn't absolve the other. It is like getting called out in class and saying "We I was talking, but Jeff was talking more so what I did was not as bad". Like why should I respect such an argument when at its core is it just meant to be dismissive.
Bernie was ****ty towards the end, some of his supporters did vote Stein, Trump, or stayed home to stick it to "da establishment". Data points from 2008 don't change that.
-I'm not touching the Clinton comment because I see the goal post move already. I don't feel like picking apart your comments for you to concede that you were not talking in absolutes. She was a mixed bag, so whatever.We must have watched different coverage of the 2016 election. I recall a big part of Hillary’s general election message was that every Republican but Trump isn’t so bad. Going by that logic, whomever Donald Trump appoints will have to be approved by at least 51 non Trump Republicans who, presumably “love this country.” The appointee himself will be a Republican and night even be from a “Catholic, social justice tradition,” like Paul Ryan.
Also, it may be true that black and brown voters, of all social classes, provide Dems with votes but elected Democratic politicians govern in favor of the professional-managerial class and that group is largely anti union and anti consumer protection so secretly, they love the current and future composition of the high court.
If I recall correctly, a number of Democratic candidates for Senate, back 2014, basically said “Barack Obama’s? Never heard of the guy.”
Democratic Party grandees declared that to be brilliant strategy. Alienating black voters in the hope of picking up a few Serena Joys was lauded as smart politics. Of course, that strategy failed.
It’s as if the Democratic Party either wants to win with a coalition that includes rich suburbanites, lose while appealing to rich white women in the burbs. Anything but winning with and governing for a multi racial workers’ coalition.
True.
But like I said before Hillary was not perfect but she had to deal with a primary challenger that acted like a **** boy after it was clear he lost, foreign interference in the election, sexism, boiling over of white nationalism, trash mainstream treating things like a reality show, a right wing propaganda machine constantly attacking her, a good majority of a base being targeted for voter suppression, and Jill the scammer tricking gullible folk into thinking they were sticking it to the man
After all this, she still looked like she had it in the bag.
Then James Comey's self righteous *** steps in at the last second.
I agree if this could have been avoided, but that doesn't take away from the pure ***** ***ness of James Comey. Both can be true.
Why are these considered bad things?
Why are these considered bad things?
I really hope some Republicans are watching and thinking "wait...that sounds good" lol
Why are these considered bad things?
I feel you.This is true, but imo **** that you can control stings harder than **** that you can't
dudes could've decide to get up and vote, mother ****ers and could have rubbed 3 brain cells together and realized Jill is a SCAMMER, and a low quality scammer at that.
it's irrational but **** hurts more.
I dont look at Trump's tweets ... I dont follow Trump on Twitter and I cant see tweets on NT for some reason ...
I am simply playing out the situation as I see it ... The outrage started with the separation of children ... Trump signed an order saying stop doing that ... I understand he "started it" and I'm not really disputing that ... I am wondering what the Left's goal is for immigration because EVERYONE who is anti-Trump is advocating for an open border policy, ultimately ...
I dont even look at Facebook too often but the stuff I saw regarding immigration was so nonsensical ... People using examples of illegal immigration success stories as a means to justify ............. O wait, they never get to the policy part ... The only conclusion can be open borders ... In the end, the only thing that will satisfy the Left is unbridled immigration ...
Google immigration impact on wages because I dont feel like getting into it ... It's real and there is blame on both sides ...