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That would mean you would have to condemn me too as my father was a deeply racist white supremacist who even praised things like jihadist bombings in the Middle East precisely because of their large muslim deathtolls**** him too. I don’t care. I’m heartless
**** him too. I don’t care. I’m heartless
That would mean you would have to condemn me too as my father was a deeply racist white supremacist who even praised things like jihadist bombings in the Middle East precisely because of their large muslim deathtolls
It’s more so the principle of judging a kid simply because of who the father is. Barron hasn’t done anything wrong, nor does he really appear enough in public to get any idea of what he’s like.You’re an adult who learned from his mistakes and grew up to be a good person.
I’m not trusting this kid until he becomes a functioning non-trump adult.
It’s more so the principle of judging a kid simply because of who the father is. Barron hasn’t done anything wrong, nor does he really appear enough in public to get any idea of what he’s like.
You should only cite the New Deal and the post war prosperity when you’re dealing with neoliberals who claim that even moving towards social Democracy is either impossible, is possible elsewhere but not possible in the US or that it’s possible to move towards Social Democracy but it will end in disaster.
As far as the Native American DNA thing was concerned. So foolish. It’s foolish because she didn’t understand that at the heart of Trump’s jokes about her being “Pocahontas” is the conceit that America has stacked the deck against whites so heavily that white people will attempt to pass as PoC in order to obtain all the benefits of being a PoC. I know it has to be infuriating to have your own experiences called into question (I have no doubt that her grandmother told her that’s she’s part Cherokee) but it’s about something much bigger and you have to be able to see Trump’s dumb jokes for what they are, an appeal to white grievance politics.
You should only cite the New Deal and the post war prosperity when you’re dealing with neoliberals who claim that even moving towards social Democracy is either impossible, is possible elsewhere but not possible in the US or that it’s possible to move towards Social Democracy but it will end in disaster.
As far as the Native American DNA thing was concerned. So foolish. It’s foolish because she didn’t understand that at the heart of Trump’s jokes about her being “Pocahontas” is the conceit that America has stacked the deck against whites so heavily that white people will attempt to pass as PoC in order to obtain all the benefits of being a PoC. I know it has to be infuriating to have your own experiences called into question (I have no doubt that her grandmother told her that’s she’s part Cherokee) but it’s about something much bigger and you have to be able to see Trump’s dumb jokes for what they are, an appeal to white grievance politics.
I think he is saying progressive like Warren should only talk positively about the New Deal in that context. To pushback on a specific talking point by neoliberals.Care to elaborate on that first part (re: citing the New Deal)?
EXACTLY. I know we've had our differences, but we can agree on this.Ehhhh, let's leave the kid out of it.
His dad is a low life but he didn't pick his parents.
That’s the best critique of Warren’s DNA test excursion I’ve seen. So on-point.You should only cite the New Deal and the post war prosperity when you’re dealing with neoliberals who claim that even moving towards social Democracy is either impossible, is possible elsewhere but not possible in the US or that it’s possible to move towards Social Democracy but it will end in disaster.
As far as the Native American DNA thing was concerned. So foolish. It’s foolish because she didn’t understand that at the heart of Trump’s jokes about her being “Pocahontas” is the conceit that America has stacked the deck against whites so heavily that white people will attempt to pass as PoC in order to obtain all the benefits of being a PoC. I know it has to be infuriating to have your own experiences called into question (I have no doubt that her grandmother told her that’s she’s part Cherokee) but it’s about something much bigger and you have to be able to see Trump’s dumb jokes for what they are, an appeal to white grievance politics.
Care to elaborate on that first part (re: citing the New Deal)?
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/10/the-facts-on-elizabeth-warrens-dna-test/
She actually likely has a Native American Ancestor. The issue is the Cherokee nation she claimed is based on a specific tribe that membership relies on being a descendant of a specific group of Native Americans who signed a contract stating they were the CherokeeNation. I'll be honest and I hate to say it the way the tribe promotes itself now is very similar to a brand that other groups attempt to use to build upon. Its why Trump has in so many ways been an expert it this area, because if there is one thing Trump knows (and an argument could be made 1 is as high as it goes) it is branding.
No worries famb. Do not stress yourself to respond too quickly. Take you time, even if it is a couple months my *** will still be here running my mouth more than anyone asked me too.RustyShackleford I appreciate your posts always, even when I don’t fully agree. Always thoughtful and nuanced.
I’ll try to respond to some of our recent discussions tonight. It’s hard for me to keep up on here sometimes
Basically what Rusty said. There is a line of argument that America is just too vast, her people are too heterogeneous or that even the mildest forms of social Democracy will end in disaster. It’s an attempt to argue for a system, in our case neoliberal capitalism, by saying that it wins by default because there just are no other options.
The New Deal and the quasi Social Democracy of 1945 to about 1973 clearly contradictions that particular argument. That experience should be cited as prof that alternatives to neoliberal capitalism are possible and that they are possible right here in the US.
Beyond that though, the New Deal is not a great model going forward. The reason is because the New Deal and the labor peace of 1945 to 1973 stories excluded women and PoC.
The argument should go “in our vast heterogenous country, we developed the political will to make life better for large swaths of the American working class. If we develop the political will to improve the lives of all workers/working class people in America, we will be able to overcome whatever demographic or economic barriers that proponents of the status quo cite.”
You’re saying a lot of extra so let me makes this clearThat would mean you would have to condemn me too as my father was a deeply racist white supremacist who even praised things like jihadist bombings in the Middle East precisely because of their large muslim deathtolls
Thanks for clarifying. I'd also add that it's not just that the New Deal excluded women and POC but actually planted the seed for the very things critics of neoliberalism decry (https://www.dissentmagazine.org/blog/neoliberalism-forum-ndb-connolly).
I've been struggling lately because while I agree with the framing of climate change interventions in terms of a "Green New Deal," to me the more radical and necessary historical juncture to return to is Radical Reconstruction. But precisely for the reasons that Du Bois described in Black Reconstruction (i.e. the propaganda of history), no one wants to ever see that as the emulative moment of organizing across racial lines, liquidating and redistributing property, and attempting to realize the full, robust meaning of democracy.
*also, your explanation of white grievance politics is gold.