So does Malcom X having homosexual relations change your view on him?

[an dee 51o]

This dude Deuce King making wildly homophobic statements two days in a row. How again does this discredit anything that Malcolm accomplished?

 

[joe camel smooth]

lol @ all the homophobes claiming it wouldnt change their views......yet they immediately dismiss the claims without knowing anything about them. hmmmmmm

 

[joe camel smooth]

lol @ all the homophobes claiming it wouldnt change their views......yet they immediately dismiss the claims without knowing anything about them. hmmmmmm

 

[airmaxpenny1]

Originally Posted by JOE CAMEL SMOOTH

lol @ all the homophobes claiming it wouldnt change their views......yet they immediately dismiss the claims without knowing anything about them. hmmmmmm

Basically...Nothing worse to black males than the thought of being "gay."

 

[airmaxpenny1]

Originally Posted by JOE CAMEL SMOOTH

lol @ all the homophobes claiming it wouldnt change their views......yet they immediately dismiss the claims without knowing anything about them. hmmmmmm

Basically...Nothing worse to black males than the thought of being "gay."

 

[the natural mystic]

Originally Posted by blackmagnus514

Won't change my view one bit. That's not the first time I heard that either. What I've read is that he was like an escort basically for these white dudes before his conversion to Islam. It was his lifestyle basically.

Who cares. He's still a great leader.

This! I have a feeling a lot of clowns in here don't know much about X and his history.
Dude was wild before his conversion.

 

[the natural mystic]

Originally Posted by blackmagnus514

Won't change my view one bit. That's not the first time I heard that either. What I've read is that he was like an escort basically for these white dudes before his conversion to Islam. It was his lifestyle basically.

Who cares. He's still a great leader.

This! I have a feeling a lot of clowns in here don't know much about X and his history.
Dude was wild before his conversion.

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by proper english

 seriously.. dudes on here upset cuz' this will tarnish Malcolm's image as a gun-totting ex goon. 

Word, a lot of ignorant folks are gonna start tearing down their Malcom X posters.

"will hopefully help undermine the decades of denialism by those who misguidedly regard homosexuality as shameful and unAfrican."


hmmmm

You would just arbitrarily accept THIS as the truth. Disgusting.

Never said it was truth, I said if it were I don't mind it at all....i wouldn't lose an ounce of sleep over it because Im not an ignorant homophobic @@!HOLE so. Because I'm not a disgusting, hypocritical, insecure homophobe I'm not outright dismissing the claims either and attributing it to the "man" tryna keep black people down. Look at all the politicians/religious leaders that are discovered to be gay flooding the news frequently, Malcom X being gay to me is not far fetched but I'm gonna reserve judgment till I check out the book for myself.

 If I found out any of my heroes were homosexuals today, I wouldn't lose any respect for them. NONE.

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by proper english

 seriously.. dudes on here upset cuz' this will tarnish Malcolm's image as a gun-totting ex goon. 

Word, a lot of ignorant folks are gonna start tearing down their Malcom X posters.

"will hopefully help undermine the decades of denialism by those who misguidedly regard homosexuality as shameful and unAfrican."


hmmmm

You would just arbitrarily accept THIS as the truth. Disgusting.

Never said it was truth, I said if it were I don't mind it at all....i wouldn't lose an ounce of sleep over it because Im not an ignorant homophobic @@!HOLE so. Because I'm not a disgusting, hypocritical, insecure homophobe I'm not outright dismissing the claims either and attributing it to the "man" tryna keep black people down. Look at all the politicians/religious leaders that are discovered to be gay flooding the news frequently, Malcom X being gay to me is not far fetched but I'm gonna reserve judgment till I check out the book for myself.

 If I found out any of my heroes were homosexuals today, I wouldn't lose any respect for them. NONE.

 

[hankmoody]

Originally Posted by Tupack Shaker

Originally Posted by HankMoody

Originally Posted by anygivensunday


Black guy praised the book, so it must be true.

I just found out that he was paid 1 millllllllliooooon dollars for his opinion. Yea so disregard that previous post in light of new information.

Where'd u hear this?

It's all over the news bruh. MED pimpin out his opinions...

I was kidding bruh.

 

[hankmoody]

Originally Posted by Tupack Shaker

Originally Posted by HankMoody

Originally Posted by anygivensunday


Black guy praised the book, so it must be true.

I just found out that he was paid 1 millllllllliooooon dollars for his opinion. Yea so disregard that previous post in light of new information.

Where'd u hear this?

It's all over the news bruh. MED pimpin out his opinions...

I was kidding bruh.

 

[club29]

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Originally Posted by Deuce King

How anybody can believe this book, which is filled with ALLEGATIONS and from a dead author no less is crazy.  Also, anyone who doesn't believe a story or book like this is done on purpose to try and bring black leaders like Malcolm X and others down a notch is clearly not thinking properly.  You think if Ronald Reagan had allegations of him being gay that those stories would leak out to the general public or even a book would even make it to the book shelf to be sold...............that thing wouldn't even get approved to be published, it just wouldn't happen, not for THEIR hero.  See alot of you dudes fall for the banana in the tailpipe every time and some of the posts in here are a prime example of that.

Well, the guy died literally a few days ago.  And the guy was one of the leading African-American scholars of his time.

Wiki's brief bio of Manning Marable:
[h2][/h2]
Marable was born in Dayton, Ohio. He received his Bachelor of Arts degree from Earlham College and his PhD from University of Maryland. Marable taught at the University of Colorado at Boulder and Ohio State University, where he was chairman of the Department of Black Studies. He later took a position at Columbia University. Marable also served as the founding director of the Africana and Hispanic Studies Program at Colgate University.[sup][2][/sup]

Marable served as Chair of Movement for a Democratic Society (MDS).[sup][4][/sup] Marable served on the Board of Directors for the Hip-Hop Summit Action Network (HSAN), a non-profit coalition of public figures working to utilize hip-hop as an agent for social change.[sup][5][/sup] Marable was also a member of the New York Legislature's Amistad Commission, created to review state curriculum regarding the slave trade.[sup][6][/sup]

It was reported in June 2004 by activist group Racism Watch that Marable had called for immediate action to be taken to end the U.S. military's use of Raphael Patai's book The Arab Mind which Marable described as "a book full of racially charged stereotypes and generalizations."[sup][7][/sup] In a 2008 column, Marable endorsed Senator Barack Obama's bid for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination.

Out of all people you think this guy would really have an agenda or working for the "evil white man," to paint Malcolm gay...It was one time in his life, I doubt Malcolm was actually gay he just had one intimate encounter with another man.  White people don't give a $!*$ about Malcolm anymore to spend time try painting him gay, while he is arguably the most influential African-American thinker, the dude is dead and the movement he was trying to lead as well.  There is no evil corporation trying to paint Malcom as a homosexual, it is only through 20 years of research by one of the most decorated and respected African-American scholars of his time.  But yea, continue to wallow in your ignorance, and false machismo.  Being gay made Bayard Rustin, James Baldwin and Langston Hughes all less real black men though

[sup]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manning_Marable#cite_note-manning2008-7[/sup]

dudes in here are just mad that the Malcolm liked the white meat

it tears you guys up inside.

Denial aint a river in Egypt....

 

[club29]

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Originally Posted by Deuce King

How anybody can believe this book, which is filled with ALLEGATIONS and from a dead author no less is crazy.  Also, anyone who doesn't believe a story or book like this is done on purpose to try and bring black leaders like Malcolm X and others down a notch is clearly not thinking properly.  You think if Ronald Reagan had allegations of him being gay that those stories would leak out to the general public or even a book would even make it to the book shelf to be sold...............that thing wouldn't even get approved to be published, it just wouldn't happen, not for THEIR hero.  See alot of you dudes fall for the banana in the tailpipe every time and some of the posts in here are a prime example of that.

Well, the guy died literally a few days ago.  And the guy was one of the leading African-American scholars of his time.

Wiki's brief bio of Manning Marable:
[h2][/h2]
Marable was born in Dayton, Ohio. He received his Bachelor of Arts degree from Earlham College and his PhD from University of Maryland. Marable taught at the University of Colorado at Boulder and Ohio State University, where he was chairman of the Department of Black Studies. He later took a position at Columbia University. Marable also served as the founding director of the Africana and Hispanic Studies Program at Colgate University.[sup][2][/sup]

Marable served as Chair of Movement for a Democratic Society (MDS).[sup][4][/sup] Marable served on the Board of Directors for the Hip-Hop Summit Action Network (HSAN), a non-profit coalition of public figures working to utilize hip-hop as an agent for social change.[sup][5][/sup] Marable was also a member of the New York Legislature's Amistad Commission, created to review state curriculum regarding the slave trade.[sup][6][/sup]

It was reported in June 2004 by activist group Racism Watch that Marable had called for immediate action to be taken to end the U.S. military's use of Raphael Patai's book The Arab Mind which Marable described as "a book full of racially charged stereotypes and generalizations."[sup][7][/sup] In a 2008 column, Marable endorsed Senator Barack Obama's bid for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination.

Out of all people you think this guy would really have an agenda or working for the "evil white man," to paint Malcolm gay...It was one time in his life, I doubt Malcolm was actually gay he just had one intimate encounter with another man.  White people don't give a $!*$ about Malcolm anymore to spend time try painting him gay, while he is arguably the most influential African-American thinker, the dude is dead and the movement he was trying to lead as well.  There is no evil corporation trying to paint Malcom as a homosexual, it is only through 20 years of research by one of the most decorated and respected African-American scholars of his time.  But yea, continue to wallow in your ignorance, and false machismo.  Being gay made Bayard Rustin, James Baldwin and Langston Hughes all less real black men though

[sup]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manning_Marable#cite_note-manning2008-7[/sup]

dudes in here are just mad that the Malcolm liked the white meat

it tears you guys up inside.

Denial aint a river in Egypt....

 

[antonlavey]

The worst part of this thread is, that these pseudo militant black NTers think that THIS is what's finally going to tarnish the reputation of black people in this country. Are yall %%$$$ kidding me?

 

[antonlavey]

The worst part of this thread is, that these pseudo militant black NTers think that THIS is what's finally going to tarnish the reputation of black people in this country. Are yall %%$$$ kidding me?

 

[thorrocksjs]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

The worst part of this thread is, that these pseudo militant black NTers think that THIS is what's finally going to tarnish the reputation of black people in this country. Are yall %%$$$ kidding me?

Nothing is funnier than this internet atheist right here .Just because we respect and believe in his idealogies makes us militant what about those white tea parties and all those other white groups who want to attack the government and they talk real reckless Im guessing they arent militant they are simply survivalist and patriots.

 

[thorrocksjs]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

The worst part of this thread is, that these pseudo militant black NTers think that THIS is what's finally going to tarnish the reputation of black people in this country. Are yall %%$$$ kidding me?

Nothing is funnier than this internet atheist right here .Just because we respect and believe in his idealogies makes us militant what about those white tea parties and all those other white groups who want to attack the government and they talk real reckless Im guessing they arent militant they are simply survivalist and patriots.

 

[sundoobie]

A book by this guy won't change my opinion on Malcolm X... 
I wonder if Tatchell has a side agenda for writing this book? Hmmmmmmm 

 

[sundoobie]

A book by this guy won't change my opinion on Malcolm X... 
I wonder if Tatchell has a side agenda for writing this book? Hmmmmmmm 

 

[-Red-]

I really wouldn't care... at all.

However, at this point I don't even know exactly what's being alleged and I haven't read the book yet so I will reserve judgment about how much merit I think the claims have until after I do so... which is what any critically thinking person should do.

It is a fact that historically Black leaders in this country have been "discredited" through a variety of means in order to diminish their credibility and influence in the Black community (and beyond).  Given this history, in combination with the persistent homophobia in this country and especially in the Black community, it should come as no surprise that some will dismiss these "allegations" wholesale and without even doing the research, so to speak.  It may not be "right" but it's reality.  OP and others in this thread should understand certain reactions from that framework.

On the other hand, it is foolish for people to simply dismiss this allegations as simply lies without looking into what the allegations even are or what the information presented to substantiate them is.  It's understandable that these claims be taken with a dose of skepticism given certain historical facts and cultural phenomena but at least read the damn book before deciding.

That being said, I will be picking up this book and reading it within the next few weeks...

 

[-Red-]

I really wouldn't care... at all.

However, at this point I don't even know exactly what's being alleged and I haven't read the book yet so I will reserve judgment about how much merit I think the claims have until after I do so... which is what any critically thinking person should do.

It is a fact that historically Black leaders in this country have been "discredited" through a variety of means in order to diminish their credibility and influence in the Black community (and beyond).  Given this history, in combination with the persistent homophobia in this country and especially in the Black community, it should come as no surprise that some will dismiss these "allegations" wholesale and without even doing the research, so to speak.  It may not be "right" but it's reality.  OP and others in this thread should understand certain reactions from that framework.

On the other hand, it is foolish for people to simply dismiss this allegations as simply lies without looking into what the allegations even are or what the information presented to substantiate them is.  It's understandable that these claims be taken with a dose of skepticism given certain historical facts and cultural phenomena but at least read the damn book before deciding.

That being said, I will be picking up this book and reading it within the next few weeks...

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by ThorrocksJs

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

The worst part of this thread is, that these pseudo militant black NTers think that THIS is what's finally going to tarnish the reputation of black people in this country. Are yall %%$$$ kidding me?

Nothing is funnier than this internet atheist right here .Just because we respect and believe in his idealogies makes us militant what about those white tea parties and all those other white groups who want to attack the government and they talk real reckless Im guessing they arent militant they are simply survivalist and patriots.

Not an atheist, learn how to read.

And lol @ Atheist somehow being derogatory in your eyes. I guess being a gay atheist is the worst thing a human being can be.

I'm bout to cop a kufi and dashiki and convert to Islam....pronto. Maybe it will get you on my side.

I staunchly oppose the tea party and all forms of American conservative government. TRY AGAIN.

  The tea party scares the living hell out of me and yes they are militant, and racist.



TRY AGAIN kiddo. and I meant what I said, out of all the things that tarnish the image of the Black American this should be on the bottom of the list.

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by ThorrocksJs

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

The worst part of this thread is, that these pseudo militant black NTers think that THIS is what's finally going to tarnish the reputation of black people in this country. Are yall %%$$$ kidding me?

Nothing is funnier than this internet atheist right here .Just because we respect and believe in his idealogies makes us militant what about those white tea parties and all those other white groups who want to attack the government and they talk real reckless Im guessing they arent militant they are simply survivalist and patriots.

Not an atheist, learn how to read.

And lol @ Atheist somehow being derogatory in your eyes. I guess being a gay atheist is the worst thing a human being can be.

I'm bout to cop a kufi and dashiki and convert to Islam....pronto. Maybe it will get you on my side.

I staunchly oppose the tea party and all forms of American conservative government. TRY AGAIN.

  The tea party scares the living hell out of me and yes they are militant, and racist.



TRY AGAIN kiddo. and I meant what I said, out of all the things that tarnish the image of the Black American this should be on the bottom of the list.

 

[elpablo21]

True or not, doesnt change my view on what he represented for me

 

[elpablo21]

True or not, doesnt change my view on what he represented for me