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That should be on a shirt.Originally Posted by Method Man
If the retail cost of the shirt is $36 plus shipping, the net result isn't $36 plus shipping for the charity. The shirt isn't "free." You're still paying for it.Originally Posted by Boys Noize
So much sodium in this thread. It's a charity tee by Supreme and all the proceeds go to Japan. This is like the one time I'd figure people wouldn't hate on Supreme. Talking about you might as well just donate the money straight up (why don't you just think of it as donating the money straight up and getting a free tee out of it?)
Direct donations are the only way to ensure that a full 100% of your money will reach the charity. If you do one of donations by txt message, you're not actually giving $10 to charity. You're giving up a significant "processing fee."
That's why our donation drive involves the NKETLK Japan badge instead of a tangible good. We volunteer our time to implement the badges. Nothing is skimmed off the top to pay for the "incentive," and, in this case, no additional incentive should be required to catalyze contributions. By now, we've all at least caught a glimpse of the devastation the earthquake and tsunami have wrought.
If your argument is that the only people who would purchase these shirts would be too selfish to give directly, that's fine. You can call it a "net gain" if you want - but I think we should acknowledge it's NOT as efficient as a direct donation. Anyone who really wants to help should be encouraged to contribute via your preferred charity's website instead.
Don't buy a shirt to look like you care. Act like you care instead.
That should be on a shirt.Originally Posted by Method Man
If the retail cost of the shirt is $36 plus shipping, the net result isn't $36 plus shipping for the charity. The shirt isn't "free." You're still paying for it.Originally Posted by Boys Noize
So much sodium in this thread. It's a charity tee by Supreme and all the proceeds go to Japan. This is like the one time I'd figure people wouldn't hate on Supreme. Talking about you might as well just donate the money straight up (why don't you just think of it as donating the money straight up and getting a free tee out of it?)
Direct donations are the only way to ensure that a full 100% of your money will reach the charity. If you do one of donations by txt message, you're not actually giving $10 to charity. You're giving up a significant "processing fee."
That's why our donation drive involves the NKETLK Japan badge instead of a tangible good. We volunteer our time to implement the badges. Nothing is skimmed off the top to pay for the "incentive," and, in this case, no additional incentive should be required to catalyze contributions. By now, we've all at least caught a glimpse of the devastation the earthquake and tsunami have wrought.
If your argument is that the only people who would purchase these shirts would be too selfish to give directly, that's fine. You can call it a "net gain" if you want - but I think we should acknowledge it's NOT as efficient as a direct donation. Anyone who really wants to help should be encouraged to contribute via your preferred charity's website instead.
Don't buy a shirt to look like you care. Act like you care instead.
Originally Posted by HankMoody
Originally Posted by Nash
Originally Posted by Frankie Valentino
Where there this many artists and clothing companies rallying around Haiti?
Not even close.
Probably has to do with a lack of Haitian people in the industry? There has to be a personal connection for all this and urban street wear does take a lot of influence from Japan. Also, blatant and rampant racism. On the hush, I heard all these companies were donating to France when the Haiti earthquake happened. smh.
Originally Posted by HankMoody
Originally Posted by Nash
Originally Posted by Frankie Valentino
Where there this many artists and clothing companies rallying around Haiti?
Not even close.
Probably has to do with a lack of Haitian people in the industry? There has to be a personal connection for all this and urban street wear does take a lot of influence from Japan. Also, blatant and rampant racism. On the hush, I heard all these companies were donating to France when the Haiti earthquake happened. smh.
Originally Posted by Method Man
I just don't see what the issue is. It's obvious that the main source of funding is going to come directly from direct donations but I just can't see how generating more funding through these creative means is less helpful.
$7.50 shipped
Originally Posted by Method Man
I just don't see what the issue is. It's obvious that the main source of funding is going to come directly from direct donations but I just can't see how generating more funding through these creative means is less helpful.
$7.50 shipped
That statement isn't terribly meaningful on its own. What's considered part of the product cost?100% of proceeds go to the japan earthquake relief fund
Method Man, I see where you're coming from. I agree that a direct donation would be most efficient (I think everyone would agree on that.) The thing is, I view these items these brands and musicians are selling for charity as an extra incentive for people to give.
If you're a musician, you can potentially offer a digital download as an incentive that allows you to give a full 100% of the purchase price to the relief effort. Wyclef Jean got into trouble last year when it was discovered that he was billing his own charity to play at its benefit concerts. He could use the exact same defense you're presenting: "Hey, something's better than nothing. If I didn't play, the benefit concert wouldn't have raised anything." When we had to choose which organization would benefit from our fundraiser, we chose MSF over Yele - and efficiency was a large part of the reason why. The artists who took part in the fundraiser not only donated their labor, but they also donated the products themselves so that a full 100% of the purchase price went to charity. The example of tattoo artists donating their services for charity is another true win/win. Many celebrities are putting up autographed memorabilia for auction, too, so the cost of the tangible good isn't coming out of your donation. I've heard that some video game developers have been offering special costumes for game characters etc. and donating the full purchase price to relief efforts. Not all incentives are created equal.
I don't see what's so wrong with encouraging people to think critically about these fundraisers. There's a lot of competition out there for donations. Many of us work very hard for our money and we'd like to see it put to the best possible use.
That statement isn't terribly meaningful on its own. What's considered part of the product cost?100% of proceeds go to the japan earthquake relief fund
Method Man, I see where you're coming from. I agree that a direct donation would be most efficient (I think everyone would agree on that.) The thing is, I view these items these brands and musicians are selling for charity as an extra incentive for people to give.
If you're a musician, you can potentially offer a digital download as an incentive that allows you to give a full 100% of the purchase price to the relief effort. Wyclef Jean got into trouble last year when it was discovered that he was billing his own charity to play at its benefit concerts. He could use the exact same defense you're presenting: "Hey, something's better than nothing. If I didn't play, the benefit concert wouldn't have raised anything." When we had to choose which organization would benefit from our fundraiser, we chose MSF over Yele - and efficiency was a large part of the reason why. The artists who took part in the fundraiser not only donated their labor, but they also donated the products themselves so that a full 100% of the purchase price went to charity. The example of tattoo artists donating their services for charity is another true win/win. Many celebrities are putting up autographed memorabilia for auction, too, so the cost of the tangible good isn't coming out of your donation. I've heard that some video game developers have been offering special costumes for game characters etc. and donating the full purchase price to relief efforts. Not all incentives are created equal.
I don't see what's so wrong with encouraging people to think critically about these fundraisers. There's a lot of competition out there for donations. Many of us work very hard for our money and we'd like to see it put to the best possible use.
Why even worry about what you can't control?Originally Posted by airedweezy
to me its not the price and ive been to supreme own a select few supreme items.......but we all know and those who disagree with me smh
we all know that these will be up on ebay for 180 people trying to make a buck outt of a tragedy and i dont mean supreme. resellers
Why even worry about what you can't control?Originally Posted by airedweezy
to me its not the price and ive been to supreme own a select few supreme items.......but we all know and those who disagree with me smh
we all know that these will be up on ebay for 180 people trying to make a buck outt of a tragedy and i dont mean supreme. resellers
Honestly it's not that serious. If people buy a t-shirt or donate directly you should be happy Japan is getting ANY $. There's alot of people who don't care or can't afford to donate to any kind of charity. I really don't see the need for paragraphs on paragraphs about the different ways to donate.
I wrote a few paragraphs about something I care about that happens to deal with a catastrophic disaster affecting tens of thousands of people.
You made a special effort to let all of us know that you don't care and have no opinion. Which was the bigger waste of time?
Honestly it's not that serious. If people buy a t-shirt or donate directly you should be happy Japan is getting ANY $. There's alot of people who don't care or can't afford to donate to any kind of charity. I really don't see the need for paragraphs on paragraphs about the different ways to donate.
I wrote a few paragraphs about something I care about that happens to deal with a catastrophic disaster affecting tens of thousands of people.
You made a special effort to let all of us know that you don't care and have no opinion. Which was the bigger waste of time?
Originally Posted by Method Man
Honestly it's not that serious. If people buy a t-shirt or donate directly you should be happy Japan is getting ANY $. There's alot of people who don't care or can't afford to donate to any kind of charity. I really don't see the need for paragraphs on paragraphs about the different ways to donate.
Originally Posted by Method Man
Honestly it's not that serious. If people buy a t-shirt or donate directly you should be happy Japan is getting ANY $. There's alot of people who don't care or can't afford to donate to any kind of charity. I really don't see the need for paragraphs on paragraphs about the different ways to donate.