So Supreme decided to release a Japanese benefit shirt

Originally Posted by Method Man

Meth what if the people wanted to donate and wanted something from supreme .So they killed two birds with one stone.I mean u do the same thing here with those Niketalk Caps which u donated money to charity from the cap funds.Why didnt u just say hey donate directly and cut out the middlemen.Your argument is flawed.
You're just rationalizing your decision to buy a t-shirt from Supreme that says "Japan" on it instead of donating directly to charity.   It isn't "killing two birds with one stone;" you're paying for a t-shirt and you're donating "something" to charity - though none of you can tell me precisely what.  
Our caps don't say "Japan" on them.  It's more like having Supreme donate money from EVERY product to charity.  

People who wanted to buy a NikeTalk cap wanted to buy a NikeTalk cap.  They didn't do it to donate to Japan relief.  That's precisely why we did NOT sell t-shirts/caps with the NKETLK Japan graphic on them, despite the requests.  We offered a badge so 100% of the proceeds would go to charity.  The apparel offerings we created were intended to capitalize on the demand for NikeTalk apparel products.  We've always encouraged direct donations INSTEAD of the purchase of our products, so there's no conflict.  

Disaster relief sells itself.  If I were to create a topic encouraging people to donate to Children's Defense Fund in January, I wouldn't expect to raise more money than we could generate from selling fitted caps and giving the proceeds to that same organization.  When the disaster in Japan is all over the news, people want to help and we try to facilitate that in the most efficient way possible.  To make it even more appealing, we offered an incentive - but it was an incentive that allowed us to maximize your contributions.  There's NO fundraising expenses associated with what we've done in response to disasters.  The apparel offerings are part of a broader social business effort, like the site itself and our use of its ad revenue.  So, we do practice what we preach. 

Your argument is only valid for those who don't give a damn about Japan and just want a Supreme shirt.  If that were the case, however, what added value with the Japan references have?   

These are people who want to do something to help, but, out of selfishness, make the compromise that they'd rather buy a t-shirt for themselves and give "something" to charity than to give directly to charity and getting "nothing" in return.  Anyone who's splitting the difference and getting the shirt as a "bonus" can't even tell me what portion of their purchase is going to the cause and what's paying for fashion.  

In that case, Supreme is giving you an easy way out.  You get to buy yourself a present and congratulate yourself for doing so.  You keep saying "something's better than nothing," as though that's really the choice.  Everyone's talking about these selfish people who don't care about Japan in the abstract, and yet nobody's claiming this to describe themselves.  So, if you do care about Japan... why don't you care about the efficiency of your donation?  You're twisting yourself up in knots to justify this, knowing it's not the best use of your money if you want to help Japan. 

It's your money, but if you're going to be selfish you could at least be honest with yourself.  Don't blame me for pointing out the obvious. 

The incentive for donating to the child defense fund is getting a niketalk cap and the incentive for donating to  japan is a cool badge.I mean we had folks round here who donated to get a cool badge you can peep the thread folks said how do I get the cool badge and u and others said donate.The incentive for donating to japan through supreme gets you a tee.I do care about japan and if I can get something cool out of it while donating there is nothing wrong with that really I'm not being selfish .I mean you offered the same thing you "gave away" the badge . For instance take a livestrong bracelet/wristband you are donating money and in turn getting a bracelet.
 
100% of the profits go to charity? Not 100% of money collected? That's no bueno.

I don't understand how efficiency is sacrificed IF 100% of the money collected goes to revenue. No skimming or anything. $36 per shirt goes to charity. I'm guessing that's unrealistic. But if that did happen, I don't see how anyone could have a problem with it.
 
100% of the profits go to charity? Not 100% of money collected? That's no bueno.

I don't understand how efficiency is sacrificed IF 100% of the money collected goes to revenue. No skimming or anything. $36 per shirt goes to charity. I'm guessing that's unrealistic. But if that did happen, I don't see how anyone could have a problem with it.
 
Originally Posted by I Live In Texas

Originally Posted by DiPlOmAt TDOt

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It's really $100 though?
All of Supreme's shirt prices range from $32 up to $54. Nothing is a hundred dollars. 


Believe the mickey mouse tee was 108 couple years back. Their cut and sew tees are usually 68. I'm a loyal customer of supreme, huge fan of their outerwear.Too much arguing for nothing.Let's not act like all member that donated through NT really cared about Japan....they just wanted the cool little badge under their SN.
 
Originally Posted by I Live In Texas

Originally Posted by DiPlOmAt TDOt

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It's really $100 though?
All of Supreme's shirt prices range from $32 up to $54. Nothing is a hundred dollars. 


Believe the mickey mouse tee was 108 couple years back. Their cut and sew tees are usually 68. I'm a loyal customer of supreme, huge fan of their outerwear.Too much arguing for nothing.Let's not act like all member that donated through NT really cared about Japan....they just wanted the cool little badge under their SN.
 
I don't understand why people are so quick to slander Supreme like it's that much more expensive than most streetwear brands.  Just a quick glance on Karmaloop, Crooks & Castles tees are $36, Hundreds tees are $30(on their own site), 10 Deep tees are $32.  Supreme charges $32-36, it's just people love to hate them and make it sound worse than it actually is.
 
I don't understand why people are so quick to slander Supreme like it's that much more expensive than most streetwear brands.  Just a quick glance on Karmaloop, Crooks & Castles tees are $36, Hundreds tees are $30(on their own site), 10 Deep tees are $32.  Supreme charges $32-36, it's just people love to hate them and make it sound worse than it actually is.
 
Originally Posted by DownyBoy

Originally Posted by I Live In Texas

Originally Posted by DiPlOmAt TDOt

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It's really $100 though?
All of Supreme's shirt prices range from $32 up to $54. Nothing is a hundred dollars. 
Believe the mickey mouse tee was 108 couple years back. 
that's because they wanted to punish the people that didnt get the reference 
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 (if that was even the case)
someone I know nonchalantly mentioned the "punk rock" reference and they gave him the T for free 
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Originally Posted by DownyBoy

Originally Posted by I Live In Texas

Originally Posted by DiPlOmAt TDOt

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It's really $100 though?
All of Supreme's shirt prices range from $32 up to $54. Nothing is a hundred dollars. 
Believe the mickey mouse tee was 108 couple years back. 
that's because they wanted to punish the people that didnt get the reference 
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 (if that was even the case)
someone I know nonchalantly mentioned the "punk rock" reference and they gave him the T for free 
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Originally Posted by DownyBoy

 Let's not act like all member that donated through NT really cared about Japan....they just wanted the cool little badge under their SN.


And? I think Meth was arguing that the badge didn't cost any money to produce so it doesn't matter since there isn't any negative to anybody's need to feed one's ego. There was only a positive in that transaction. On the other hand, by Supreme not donating 100% of money collected, there is a negative to people's selfishness: the cost of the t-shirt and whatever else they are taking out subtracting from the $36. That's a BIG difference.
 
Originally Posted by DownyBoy

 Let's not act like all member that donated through NT really cared about Japan....they just wanted the cool little badge under their SN.


And? I think Meth was arguing that the badge didn't cost any money to produce so it doesn't matter since there isn't any negative to anybody's need to feed one's ego. There was only a positive in that transaction. On the other hand, by Supreme not donating 100% of money collected, there is a negative to people's selfishness: the cost of the t-shirt and whatever else they are taking out subtracting from the $36. That's a BIG difference.
 
Originally Posted by ThorrocksJs

Originally Posted by Method Man

The incentive for donating to the child defense fund is getting a niketalk cap and the incentive for donating to  japan is a cool badge.I mean we had folks round here who donated to get a cool badge you can peep the thread folks said how do I get the cool badge and u and others said donate.The incentive for donating to japan through supreme gets you a tee.I do care about japan and if I can get something cool out of it while donating there is nothing wrong with that really I'm not being selfish .I mean you offered the same thing you "gave away" the badge . For instance take a livestrong bracelet/wristband you are donating money and in turn getting a bracelet.


True. Bracelet, badge or t-shirt who gives a crap?  Do what you wanna do.  It's not selfish to pay for a t-shirt and have the proceeds go to charity.  It is an incentive and that's all it is.  Why is there so much chatter about something like this.  
 
Originally Posted by ThorrocksJs

Originally Posted by Method Man

The incentive for donating to the child defense fund is getting a niketalk cap and the incentive for donating to  japan is a cool badge.I mean we had folks round here who donated to get a cool badge you can peep the thread folks said how do I get the cool badge and u and others said donate.The incentive for donating to japan through supreme gets you a tee.I do care about japan and if I can get something cool out of it while donating there is nothing wrong with that really I'm not being selfish .I mean you offered the same thing you "gave away" the badge . For instance take a livestrong bracelet/wristband you are donating money and in turn getting a bracelet.


True. Bracelet, badge or t-shirt who gives a crap?  Do what you wanna do.  It's not selfish to pay for a t-shirt and have the proceeds go to charity.  It is an incentive and that's all it is.  Why is there so much chatter about something like this.  
 
The incentive for donating to japan through supreme gets you a tee.I do care about japan and if I can get something cool out of it while donating there is nothing wrong with that really I'm not being selfish .I mean you offered the same thing you "gave away" the badge . For instance take a livestrong bracelet/wristband you are donating money and in turn getting a bracelet. 
Those products cost money - and that money is deducted from the donation.  Therefore, it's less efficient than a direct donation.  You don't even know how much is going to Japan and you're still defending it.  
Given all of the above, how on earth can you still claim that all incentives are the same? 

You'd criticize a charity if it were inefficient, but not a charitable fundraiser?  
 
The incentive for donating to japan through supreme gets you a tee.I do care about japan and if I can get something cool out of it while donating there is nothing wrong with that really I'm not being selfish .I mean you offered the same thing you "gave away" the badge . For instance take a livestrong bracelet/wristband you are donating money and in turn getting a bracelet. 
Those products cost money - and that money is deducted from the donation.  Therefore, it's less efficient than a direct donation.  You don't even know how much is going to Japan and you're still defending it.  
Given all of the above, how on earth can you still claim that all incentives are the same? 

You'd criticize a charity if it were inefficient, but not a charitable fundraiser?  
 
Originally Posted by mondaynightraw

Originally Posted by bigsupa

i HATE supreme...

and here's why..

i went to their lil store they call a "boutique" which adds extra $$ to any item sold already cuz its a "boutique" not a store...i was buying a pair of SB's for my lil brother who wanted a pair... now the box still had the retail price of $68 on it. so im at the register with $70..they ring them up for $105...im like doesn't it say $68 on the box? THE SUMMAMABISH said while he rips the price tag off the box in front of me"OH THAT'S THE SUGGESTED RETAIL PRICE...WHAT THEY SUGGEST WE SHOULD SELL IT FOR...BUT WE WANNA CHARGE $105 CUZ WE FELL LIKE IT! i gave him the
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and walked away saying well i suggested not to buy these...

call me cheap...call me what ever but if i aint messin with them...EVER..
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I can't even go in that store since one of my dudes smacked one of their employees.
Thats gangsta 
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Originally Posted by mondaynightraw

Originally Posted by bigsupa

i HATE supreme...

and here's why..

i went to their lil store they call a "boutique" which adds extra $$ to any item sold already cuz its a "boutique" not a store...i was buying a pair of SB's for my lil brother who wanted a pair... now the box still had the retail price of $68 on it. so im at the register with $70..they ring them up for $105...im like doesn't it say $68 on the box? THE SUMMAMABISH said while he rips the price tag off the box in front of me"OH THAT'S THE SUGGESTED RETAIL PRICE...WHAT THEY SUGGEST WE SHOULD SELL IT FOR...BUT WE WANNA CHARGE $105 CUZ WE FELL LIKE IT! i gave him the
indifferent.gif
and walked away saying well i suggested not to buy these...

call me cheap...call me what ever but if i aint messin with them...EVER..
laugh.gif


I can't even go in that store since one of my dudes smacked one of their employees.
Thats gangsta 
laugh.gif
 
Originally Posted by mondaynightraw

Originally Posted by bigsupa

i HATE supreme...

and here's why..

i went to their lil store they call a "boutique" which adds extra $$ to any item sold already cuz its a "boutique" not a store...i was buying a pair of SB's for my lil brother who wanted a pair... now the box still had the retail price of $68 on it. so im at the register with $70..they ring them up for $105...im like doesn't it say $68 on the box? THE SUMMAMABISH said while he rips the price tag off the box in front of me"OH THAT'S THE SUGGESTED RETAIL PRICE...WHAT THEY SUGGEST WE SHOULD SELL IT FOR...BUT WE WANNA CHARGE $105 CUZ WE FELL LIKE IT! i gave him the
indifferent.gif
and walked away saying well i suggested not to buy these...

call me cheap...call me what ever but if i aint messin with them...EVER..
laugh.gif


I can't even go in that store since one of my dudes smacked one of their employees.
nerd.gif
same n that almost fought someone from FCNY?

Method Man wrote:


You know, a lot of this is ego.  

this
 
Originally Posted by mondaynightraw

Originally Posted by bigsupa

i HATE supreme...

and here's why..

i went to their lil store they call a "boutique" which adds extra $$ to any item sold already cuz its a "boutique" not a store...i was buying a pair of SB's for my lil brother who wanted a pair... now the box still had the retail price of $68 on it. so im at the register with $70..they ring them up for $105...im like doesn't it say $68 on the box? THE SUMMAMABISH said while he rips the price tag off the box in front of me"OH THAT'S THE SUGGESTED RETAIL PRICE...WHAT THEY SUGGEST WE SHOULD SELL IT FOR...BUT WE WANNA CHARGE $105 CUZ WE FELL LIKE IT! i gave him the
indifferent.gif
and walked away saying well i suggested not to buy these...

call me cheap...call me what ever but if i aint messin with them...EVER..
laugh.gif


I can't even go in that store since one of my dudes smacked one of their employees.
nerd.gif
same n that almost fought someone from FCNY?

Method Man wrote:


You know, a lot of this is ego.  

this
 
copped my leaves camp thursday and prolly will grab this next week. Only if it is reasonably priced...but I have a feeling it may be $50 or more. But at the time they take to process orders and ship with the webstore, prolly won't get it til may lol. Any NY/LA heads down to pickup?
 
copped my leaves camp thursday and prolly will grab this next week. Only if it is reasonably priced...but I have a feeling it may be $50 or more. But at the time they take to process orders and ship with the webstore, prolly won't get it til may lol. Any NY/LA heads down to pickup?
 
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