STAY/GET BACK IN SHAPE VOL 3.0 -- A New Niketalk = A New Thread

[tokes99]

so you don't get desirable buns is basically what you're saying.

granted the baddies aren’t perpetually falling over ya boi…but i do ok .

anecdotally, observationally, and from casual conversations with women, the ideal of getting swole isn’t as attractive to women as guys seem to think…which isn’t saying some women don’t find it super appealing or that it isn’t an attractive trait…

further there are so many fitness/gym memes that point out the phenomenon of those super jacked guys getting more attention from other men than the women

 

[Tank Top Master]

granted the baddies aren’t perpetually falling over ya boi…but i do ok .

anecdotally, observationally, and from casual conversations with women, the ideal of getting swole isn’t as attractive to women as guys seem to think…which isn’t saying some women don’t find it super appealing or that it isn’t an attractive trait…

further there so many fitness/gym memes that point out the phenomenon of those super jacked guys getting more attention from other men than the women

What women say and what women do ain’t the same, but believe what you want breh.

 

[tokes99]

What women say and what women do ain’t the same, but believe what you want breh.

oh fasho! in this respect i can look out at the world tho and see that it's not necessarily the fittest guys linking baddies like that

if there's a trait that maps well with the women folk it's confidence, familiarity, and/or some level of status, crafting those things will take the young homies farther than having muscles...being fit is a cool bonus, most women aren't necessarily rating a random dude being jacked that high tho, of course don't be fat/sloppy but it's way overrated

it can be a worthwhile pursuit of building the self tho (which often extends into other areas of one's life), just wouldn't expect over indexing on being swole automatically bringing the honeys...

 

[kenb504]

Y’all take a break and enjoy good food & family today fellas. Back to the grind Friday. Don’t be starving yallselves out here (unless you got a competition coming up lol).

 

[Tank Top Master]

Y’all take a break and enjoy good food & family today fellas. Back to the grind Friday. Don’t be starving yallselves out here (unless you got a competition coming up lol).

Must be talking to Katniss and the rest of the Hunger Gamers ITT.

 

[Beruseruku Desu]

shooting at a gym

 

[moderndarwin]

granted the baddies aren’t perpetually falling over ya boi…but i do ok .

anecdotally, observationally, and from casual conversations with women, the ideal of getting swole isn’t as attractive to women as guys seem to think…which isn’t saying some women don’t find it super appealing or that it isn’t an attractive trait…

further there are so many fitness/gym memes that point out the phenomenon of those super jacked guys getting more attention from other men than the women

this is 100% fax women don’t really care about guys being in shape at all. As long as you’re tall and not fat girls will want you. And if you’re tall, not fat and actually handsome it’s over your dynamite to women. Being skinny is actually preferable to a lot women than being jacked if look and initial attraction is all we’re discussing.

Unfortunately i wasn’t most of those things lol so i realized and learned early on that no matter how good shape i was in that it barely moved the needle for initial attraction. Learning how to flirt and talk and enjoy conversation did way for me than getting in shape ever did.

And now being married i just exercise so i myself like what i see in the mirror and can play hoops as often as possible. My wifey doesn’t care as long as i’m in relatively good shape and health.

 

[deusavertat]

Man if yall dont let this thread fade away for 24 hours. Aint nobody tryna see this right now.

 

[6 Rings G.O.A.T.]

 

[tokes99]

Man if yall dont let this thread fade away for 24 hours. Aint nobody tryna see this right now.

if anything this the time of year folk need the reminder!

 

[Tank Top Master]

this is 100% fax women don’t really care about guys being in shape at all. As long as you’re tall and not fat girls will want you. And if you’re tall, not fat and actually handsome it’s over your dynamite to women. Being skinny is actually preferable to a lot women than being jacked if look and initial attraction is all we’re discussing.

Unfortunately i wasn’t most of those things lol so i realized and learned early on that no matter how good shape i was in that it barely moved the needle for initial attraction. Learning how to flirt and talk and enjoy conversation did way for me than getting in shape ever did.

And now being married i just exercise so i myself like what i see in the mirror and can play hoops as often as possible. My wifey doesn’t care as long as i’m in relatively good shape and health.

Maybe this is true, maybe it’s not, there are too many variables to account for.

• Maybe you and tokes99 n'dem ain't eem jacked and that’s why y’all are saying this.

• Maybe what women say and what they do don’t really match up and the women saying it doesn’t matter much would flip the script if a jacked dude was actually standing in front of them.

• Maybe the broads in y’alls areas are less into fitness dudes or more outta shape and that’s why they’re cool with whatever typa build. It's not like most dudes are jacked anyways so maybe it's a scarcity thing.

• Maybe the dudes saying it does matter have stronger face cards than the dudes saying it doesn’t.

It’s kind of a moot point either way. Is being brolic the end-all, be-all when it comes to female attraction? No, but neither is being skinny or tall or funny. There's plenty of ___ demographic of dudes not getting any play and plenty of dudes in the same cohort pulling chicks.


Folks saying it matters prolly won’t devolve back to scrawny status to test the theory and dudes saying it doesn’t matter prolly won’t get more brolic to see if it does.


I know my experience has been all positive and I don’t even train for “aesthetics“. That being skinny sh*t was wack; I ain't never going back.

I did find in my experiences that the only women that kinda care about your numbers are strength athletes themselves, so if a chick asks about PRs she’s either a PLer, Oly lifter, or CrossFitter.

 

[deusavertat]

Alright guys what we doing tomorrow?

Set the fast alarm

 

[6 Rings G.O.A.T.]

 

[ajiiiplatinum]

Best time to work out

Get a nice lift in and then get that Thanksgiving protein and carbs

 

[tokes99]

Maybe this is true, maybe it’s not, there are too many variables to account for.

It’s kind of a moot point either way. Is being brolic the end-all, be-all when it comes to female attraction? No, but neither is being skinny or tall or funny. There's plenty of ___ demographic of dudes not getting any play and plenty of dudes in the same cohort pulling chicks.

this is basically the point exactly, when it comes to women's attraction to a man there just are generally more things involved (in contrast to men where there is generally a simple formula for attraction, thus some mistakenly attribute this to women), and of those things being all musclely just isn't near the top for most women. which isn't saying women aren't swayed by a dude being brolic, it just ain't the easy pass like it potentially is for women

sure, indirectly it can be a differentiator in that one's presence literally stands out more which can lead to compliments that give the open to conversation & display of charm/game/personality that skips the having to initiate but it isn't the wave most guys seem to think it is. upon inspection i think most guys would find that it's very much a case of diminishing returns and if anything a slight hindrance in the general population of women (of course there are subsets where it is a marked bonus or even a requirement)

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...i would not discourage any bro from chasing getting in better shape or even that swole aesthetic but i would tell any bro that is doing so in the explicit pursuit of being attractive to women that there are better/more direct ways to achieve that if that's the primary motivation

Alright guys what we doing tomorrow?

Set the fast alarm

observationally i've noticed that this is the time in gym cycle where attendance is ramping up to peak...definitely not hitting the gym the day after these holidays

 

[sneeker]

this is basically the point exactly, when it comes to women's attraction to a man there just are generally more things involved (in contrast to men where there is generally a simple formula for attraction, thus some mistakenly attribute this to women), and of those things being all musclely just isn't near the top for most women. which isn't saying women aren't swayed by a dude being brolic, it just ain't the easy pass like it potentially is for women

sure, indirectly it can be a differentiator in that one's presence literally stands out more which can lead to compliments that give the open to conversation & display of charm/game/personality that skips the having to initiate but it isn't the wave most guys seem to think it is. upon inspection i think most guys would find that it's very much a case of diminishing returns and if anything a slight hindrance in the general population of women (of course there are subsets where it is a marked bonus or even a requirement)

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...i would not discourage any bro from chasing getting in better shape or even that swole aesthetic but i would tell any bro that is doing so in the explicit pursuit of being attractive to women that there are better/more direct ways to achieve that if that's the primary motivation




observationally i've noticed that this is the time in gym cycle where attendance is ramping up to peak...definitely not hitting the gym the day after these holidays

the thing is, if we removed some of the variables which can contribute to the type of attractiveness, we could identify the particular contributing variable to it. what I have noticed though in regards to my skinny, tall young self back then to my current burly, tall old self now is that I get grabbed, pinched, held and caressed more now that my young self.

in a scenario where the person has almost all have similar traits like height and facial value and personality. and the only difference is the built, between a scrawny guy and a toned, defined guy, I would bet in a 10 out of 10 setting, 9 out of 10 that the ladies would go after the defined guy.

 

[deusavertat]

this is basically the point exactly, when it comes to women's attraction to a man there just are generally more things involved (in contrast to men where there is generally a simple formula for attraction, thus some mistakenly attribute this to women), and of those things being all musclely just isn't near the top for most women. which isn't saying women aren't swayed by a dude being brolic, it just ain't the easy pass like it potentially is for women

sure, indirectly it can be a differentiator in that one's presence literally stands out more which can lead to compliments that give the open to conve

observationally i've noticed that this is the time in gym cycle where attendance is ramping up to peak...definitely not hitting the gym the day after these holidays

Yea....smh. Give it until a few weeks after new years and let the fatties come to the realization they aint about that life.

 

[tokes99]

the thing is, if we removed some of the variables which can contribute to the type of attractiveness, we could identify the particular contributing variable to it. what I have noticed though in regards to my skinny, tall young self back then to my current burly, tall old self now is that I get grabbed, pinched, held and caressed more now that my young self.

in a scenario where the person has almost all have similar traits like height and facial value and personality. and the only difference is the built, between a scrawny guy and a toned, defined guy, I would bet in a 10 out of 10 setting, 9 out of 10 that the ladies would go after the defined guy.

perhaps hypothetically if all things were equal but when is that actually ever the case?

while not exactly the same scenario, a woman was telling me how she broke up with a dude who over the course of their relationship started to pursue pro bodybuilding, saying that the aesthetic & lifestyle change(s) made cuz less attractive to her, another wouldn't even consider a dude being 'that into themselves' proudly proclaiming she should be the 'narcissist' in the equation

guys both overrate & underrate the physical part of attraction for women, some guys think that's all there is while others downplay it way too much. being extra in shape can matter, it just usually doesn't...with women, many studies show this too, things tend to be much more about context. whereas for dude an attractive woman is an attractive woman almost regardless of circumstance, height, occupation, personality; for women the same dude can be more or less attractive depending on so many other things.

also it can be hard to make comparisons in this regard, even to one's self because invariably one is comparing their younger less developed 'immature' self to their older more knowledgeable mature self. age/competence/confidence/maturity/wisdom is also attractive to women so it could be also be those things in combination with/rather than actually being less thin/more muscular

women definitely care about a guy being attractive and in shape, just less than guys who focus on that tend to believe

 

[mplsdunk]

once it gets hard to see gainz they’ll quit showing up even if they get that far.

 

[deusavertat]

Lifting when I should def be doing more cardio. I got open mat tomorrow and im in no shape for that at this moment.

 

[tokes99]

Yea....smh. Give it until a few weeks after new years and let the fatties come to the realization they aint about that life.

once it gets hard to see gainz they’ll quit showing up even if they get that far.

it's a tough thing because most people are so uninitiated to the process that the rely on motivation & the numbers on the scale, especially if they focus on cardio which has the most potential to access those quick losses in the beginning that are harder to maintain

 

[mplsdunk]

I started lifting at Los campeones. Hella pros in there, rolled in there at 115 pounds and guys were beyond stoked.

I was lucky to learn in that environment. Most newbies aren’t gonna be down to lift in a gym that smells like death, syringes in the trash and is 100 degrees though.

 

[deusavertat]

On the same note I expect some new white belt meat trying out Jiu jitsu

 

[tokes99]

I started lifting at Los campeones. Hella pros in there, rolled in there at 115 pounds and guys were beyond stoked.

I was lucky to learn in that environment. Most newbies aren’t gonna be down to lift in a gym that smells like death, syringes in the trash and is 100 degrees though.

newb or not most probably aren't going to be psyched to train/work out at all & less so in that environment (couldn't be me )...for better and worse in modern society we have the luxury of divorcing fitness & utility, exercise for exercise sake isn't a 'natural' pursuit, that why it would actually make sense to gamify or socialize working out for most people

 

[DonRafa]

On the same note I expect some new white belt meat trying out Jiu jitsu