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[BIG LEEMELONE]

its above the kneecap
i haven't played ball or soccer in 3 weeks and have no pain on leg days, unless i do alot of weighted lunges then i can feel it slightly on my 3rd set

to warm up i do stretching and light jogging
i lift regularly
diet is not the best but been eating plenty of eggs and protein, not much vitamin D tho yogurt once in a blue moon
sleep around 6ish a night

I started hooping again after 2+ years off. When I was last playing I could go all out with no ill effects after previous injuries. I had been going to the gym and hitting leg extensions for months before I started playing again, always avoided them in the past. Ran a few games and my right knee was ON FIRE. It was like I was back to square one with the pain, stiffness and swelling.

Long story short, cop some cissus and take it everyday. I was still hooping and thugging thru the pain for like 3 weeks and one day I got back home and realized all the pain and stiffness was gone even tho I was still hitting extensions, Bulgarians etc. Highly recommended

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[Tank Top Master]

i didn't mention hitting legs
i hit legs 2/3 times per week
but i'm talking strictly intense running from basketball/soccer games

My bad, I assumed if you had sharp knee pain in both knees after hooping you wouldn't be squatting/deadlifting during that time.

 

[tokes99]

It's tucking your chin in, which will end up bringing your head down.

Not sure why you'd want to front squat with your head up, but my back squat cues =/= my front squat cues, and even my high-bar cues are somewhat different from my low-bar cues. I've recently improved my form by bringing my eyes up when I LBS, which has caused my head to pull down.

Again, a side view. It will show if your spine is neutral or not. IMO side profiles are better than any other angle for making form checks on skwats, you can see everything except the lateral position of both knees.

I have a wingspan of 6'8", so I kinda know what having long arms and front squatting in the double front rack position is like. (I use both grips btw.)

yea, my wingspan is a lil over 6’8” too @ about 5’11” - 6’1” on a good day depending on the footwear , i have never low bar squatted but i would think it would be even more important to tilt your head up maybe looking up is enough?

both grips for front squat?

its above the kneecap
i haven't played ball or soccer in 3 weeks and have no pain on leg days, unless i do alot of weighted lunges then i can feel it slightly on my 3rd set

to warm up i do stretching and light jogging
i lift regularly
diet is not the best but been eating plenty of eggs and protein, not much vitamin D tho yogurt once in a blue moon
sleep around 6ish a night

how many trips around the sun for you? & what do you weigh? what’s your footwear of choice for hoop? you might just be doing too much gang (especially if you do a lot of jogging, jogging is kinda the worst of both running & walking, not that intense but still kinda rough on joints)…vitamin d (and collagen/collagen peptides) supplementation would maybe help with joint pain if you really are deficient but above the knee might be pfp (patella femoral pain) in which case maybe try doing some isometric holds at joints angles that are free of pain

 

[Beruseruku Desu]

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[Beruseruku Desu]

So my chest muscles look pretty good but when i wear a fitter shirt i look more like this:

Fitted or modern shirts are narrower so it makes that “boob” look scrunched up.
It looks like i have side boobs lol. I dont like that kind of chest ^



I would prefer a chest more like this:

What exercises should i use to get more of the latter chest.
Should i just cut more? Should i do more butterfly dumbells? More dips? Lower weights with more reps? I was also thinking of doing more incline press so the top of my chest pulls the rest of chest up.

Any advice is appreciated.

nothing you can do about that. thats just muscle insertion and genetics.

unless youre confusing your pecs with fat lol

 

[SORIANOTRON]

based on what you posted (pictures of other men) and what you described, that would appear to be genetics my boy

Not much you can do about that, it's the way your muscle fibers are attached to your frame.

Some guys have the super rounded outer pecs and some guys have the more angular sharp outer pecs.

Just like long and short biceps, guys have one or the other.

 

[DonRafa]

bruhhhhhhh

 

[Tank Top Master]

yea, my wingspan is a lil over 6’8” too @ about 5’11” - 6’1” on a good day depending on the footwear , i have never low bar squatted but i would think it would be even more important to tilt your head up maybe looking up is enough?

both grips for front squat?

Yes, both grips for fronts: cross grip and clean grip.

And not, you don't want to tilt your head up, you want your head down when you low bar squat. At least I don't.

 

[MakeNTGreatAgain]

So my chest muscles look pretty good but when i wear a fitter shirt i look more like this:

Fitted or modern shirts are narrower so it makes that “boob” look scrunched up.
It looks like i have side boobs lol. I dont like that kind of chest ^



I would prefer a chest more like this:

What exercises should i use to get more of the latter chest.
Should i just cut more? Should i do more butterfly dumbells? More dips? Lower weights with more reps? I was also thinking of doing more incline press so the top of my chest pulls the rest of chest up.

Any advice is appreciated.

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[MakeNTGreatAgain]

I started hooping again after 2+ years off. When I was last playing I could go all out with no ill effects after previous injuries. I had been going to the gym and hitting leg extensions for months before I started playing again, always avoided them in the past. Ran a few games and my right knee was ON FIRE. It was like I was back to square one with the pain, stiffness and swelling.

Long story short, cop some cissus and take it everyday. I was still hooping and thugging thru the pain for like 3 weeks and one day I got back home and realized all the pain and stiffness was gone even tho I was still hitting extensions, Bulgarians etc. Highly recommended

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very interesting, am copping this right now thanks mate

 

[MakeNTGreatAgain]

yea, my wingspan is a lil over 6’8” too @ about 5’11” - 6’1” on a good day depending on the footwear , i have never low bar squatted but i would think it would be even more important to tilt your head up maybe looking up is enough?

both grips for front squat?



how many trips around the sun for you? & what do you weigh? what’s your footwear of choice for hoop? you might just be doing too much gang (especially if you do a lot of jogging, jogging is kinda the worst of both running & walking, not that intense but still kinda rough on joints)…vitamin d (and collagen/collagen peptides) supplementation would maybe help with joint pain if you really are deficient but above the knee might be pfp (patella femoral pain) in which case maybe try doing some isometric holds at joints angles that are free of pain

31 trips around the sun which is surprising
im 195 and strictly hoop in kobes and recently started wearing sabrina's to the gym
I think it might have been a combo of too much, cuz i would hoop after working out like im in the league and then also on concrete is tougher.
ima try those supplements and also try those isometric holds more often, i do them on leg days but will maybe do it on non leg days too
my legs strong but gotta get the knees or specific tendons/muscles around it right

appreciate everyones help

 

[MakeNTGreatAgain]

My bad, I assumed if you had sharp knee pain in both knees after hooping you wouldn't be squatting/deadlifting during that time.

cmon baby we never skip leg day!!!

 

[tokes99]

I started hooping again after 2+ years off. When I was last playing I could go all out with no ill effects after previous injuries. I had been going to the gym and hitting leg extensions for months before I started playing again, always avoided them in the past. Ran a few games and my right knee was ON FIRE. It was like I was back to square one with the pain, stiffness and swelling.

Long story short, cop some cissus and take it everyday. I was still hooping and thugging thru the pain for like 3 weeks and one day I got back home and realized all the pain and stiffness was gone even tho I was still hitting extensions, Bulgarians etc. Highly recommended

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going to look into this! not saying the cissus did not contribute but it shouldn’t be surprising that after taking a couple years off from basketball runs that going a few games would cook you(r knee) almost regardless of whatever else you were doing in the gym, hoop is its own thing it…it also could be the case that after getting back to it over the course of that few weeks you (and your body) automatically starting to adapt and/or regulate to some degree to being back active playing especially as you were already doing some things to prep

Yes, both grips for fronts: cross grip and clean grip.

And not, you don't want to tilt your head up, you want your head down when you low bar squat. At least I don't.

cross grip is the folded arms position? have you ever done zombie squats?

31 trips around the sun which is surprising
im 195 and strictly hoop in kobes and recently started wearing sabrina's to the gym
I think it might have been a combo of too much, cuz i would hoop after working out like im in the league and then also on concrete is tougher.
ima try those supplements and also try those isometric holds more often, i do them on leg days but will maybe do it on non leg days too
my legs strong but gotta get the knees or specific tendons/muscles around it right

appreciate everyones help

yea if you are hooping too tough in the same block of time after lifting that can deffo be rough, if you really have to do both you probably want to hoop 1st, it’s definitely going to hurt your lifts tho, if you really trying to go full my player mode for the run (might want to consider a more cushioned setup than the kob’s/sabrina joints) and for sure make sure the hydration is on point…the supplements might help but they aren’t magic, look into isometrics for knee pain


knew i was going to jump so added caffeine to the preworkout mix for the 1st time in a couple months, felt like i could have pr’d front squats 345 felt kinda light & the improved front rack position definitely helped, weighed in @ about 245 after the session so probably was in the 250s to start the morning after weighing in the mid 230s the week before last

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

going to look into this! not saying the cissus did not contribute but it shouldn’t be surprising that after taking a couple years off from basketball runs that going a few games would cook you(r knee) almost regardless of whatever else you were doing in the gym, hoop is its own thing it…it also could be the case that after getting back to it over the course of that few weeks you (and your body) automatically starting to adapt and/or regulate to some degree to being back active playing especially as you were already doing some things to prep

I know my body pretty well at this point. It was definitely the extensions . I kept playing because I knew how much I could push it, kinda like how you know how many miles your car can go on an empty tank. I've taken long hiatuses a few times and got back to hooping with no real issues. Plus when my pain originally went away 10+ years ago it was when I started taking cissus. It has some great benefits

 

[tokes99]

I know my body pretty well at this point. It was definitely the extensions . I kept playing because I knew how much I could push it, kinda like how you know how many miles your car can go on an empty tank. I've taken long hiatuses a few times and got back to hooping with no real issues. Plus when my pain originally went away 10+ years ago it was when I started taking cissus. It has some great benefits

are you saying the leg extensions were the cause or the cure? both? i see/understand what you are saying in terms of knowing your own capabilities/capacity but it’s like the literal reason reasonably active men in that early/mid 30s demographic are prime candidates to bust up their tendons, especially after time off and/or w/infrequent spikes in activity…cissus seems to impact pain felt & inflammation, it’s not actually impacting the underlying issue(s) of why there is pain; it’s something of a better version of aspirin essentially…

addressing pain in this way can make someone more susceptible to injury, because while it definitely seems like it may make activity more tolerable which can allow for better recovery to still move around to actually address the underlying issue(s) it is simultaneously raising the threshold for pain for what a person does such that it could cause more damage than they would otherwise without basically kinda numbing themselves

interesting unrelated but kinda related to training:

 

[MakeNTGreatAgain]

going to look into this! not saying the cissus did not contribute but it shouldn’t be surprising that after taking a couple years off from basketball runs that going a few games would cook you(r knee) almost regardless of whatever else you were doing in the gym, hoop is its own thing it…it also could be the case that after getting back to it over the course of that few weeks you (and your body) automatically starting to adapt and/or regulate to some degree to being back active playing especially as you were already doing some things to prep



cross grip is the folded arms position? have you ever done zombie squats?



yea if you are hooping too tough in the same block of time after lifting that can deffo be rough, if you really have to do both you probably want to hoop 1st, it’s definitely going to hurt your lifts tho, if you really trying to go full my player mode for the run (might want to consider a more cushioned setup than the kob’s/sabrina joints) and for sure make sure the hydration is on point…the supplements might help but they aren’t magic, look into isometrics for knee pain


knew i was going to jump so added caffeine to the preworkout mix for the 1st time in a couple months, felt like i could have pr’d front squats 345 felt kinda light & the improved front rack position definitely helped, weighed in @ about 245 after the session so probably was in the 250s to start the morning after weighing in the mid 230s the week before last

love that u had some fab in the music for the video, too fire

definitely gunna start doing perhaps isometrics when i wake up in the morning daily.

this week it trained 6 days, monday-saturday and this morning felt some pain in my knees going upstairs
def gotta get this figured out

 

[tokes99]

love that u had some fab in the music for the video, too fire

definitely gunna start doing perhaps isometrics when i wake up in the morning daily.

this week it trained 6 days, monday-saturday and this morning felt some pain in my knees going upstairs
def gotta get this figured out

wall sits, body weight air squats holds slightly above and or below the knee angle(s) you have pain (you can do this weighted as well) and keep in mind that your body has a limited bandwidth to handle building/maintaining, training, recovery/repair so you might want to examine your routine to see if makes sense to reduce your frequency and/or intensity of training in order to focus on getting right. definitely look into figuring what type of knee pain you are experiencing, is it just pain or is there some instability, is it always replicable, is the pain always sharp/sudden, or does it ramp up according to the extension of the leg, etc.

 

[combo gd]

Yesterday and today I helped load and unload gravel with a shovel into and out of my neighbors truck. It was a great workout.

*I know I am late… but I watched the Arnold Schwarzenegger documentary “Arnold” yesterday… and it got me inspired. It also led me to respecting Arnold more.

…

 

[MakeNTGreatAgain]

Yesterday and today I helped load and unload gravel with a shovel into and out of my neighbors truck. It was a great workout.

great shoulder workout, done this too many times as a kid

 

[Beruseruku Desu]

this is why i keep the blade on me

 

[tokes99]

this is why i keep the blade on me

that’s crazy! maybe they have something else going on via hearsay, possible if the train @ the same gym?

 

[Air Champa]

Was that the Jeff Nippard video? I can't see it.



Hope this clown goes to jail. Pathetic *** looks to be in his mid 40s and thinks he's still a grade school bully. Imagine pushing around a little 5`2 manlet.

 

[Beruseruku Desu]

Air Champa yup it was lol

 

[Air Champa]

Not a big for a MR Drama Tuber, but this'll give people a better idea of what happened. The guy in the Twitter link I posted sounds like a bit of a d-bag.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

The man is 80