And you can say they take jobs Americans don't want, hell I know people that have been out of work for a year and would go out and work in fields for a pay check.
Now that a recesion has hit and theyre outta jobs theyre willing to do it for a paycheck but before? Wouldnt think twice about working in the field a day in their life.
So now it is legal to harass, detain and discriminate against any and all Hispanics in Arizona? Pathetic excuse to justify racism.
Originally Posted by CIDMAN911
Just saw some footage on Telemundo I think it was of some people yelling at the governor's car or something.
"When's the last time you saw a Latino on the street begging for spare change?! Never. We only see you lazy white people. We love working!"
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Originally Posted by Hyper Cutter
Sorry, couldn't resist on this one.Originally Posted by wawaweewa
This is a straw man argument.
Humans are inherently all immigrants because the Genus H omo () originated in Africa and immigrated to other lands.
So. Should all countries accept for those on the African Continent have lax immigration policies because "at one point time!" their land was built through immigration?
There's a pretty easy way to counter this argument.
At the time, it's pretty safe to say we didn't have a conceptualization of history. Genus H(omo) didn't know they were the first humans or that they would inevitably come to hate each other (if only they knew...). So it's not fair to regress all the way back to the earliest humans. Let's be a little less reckless.
This one point in time is practically yesterday. Let's go back to the not too distant past, say the 1800's. The western part of the US was still part of Mexico. People by then had a pretty good idea who they were and were aware organized living. in other words, people in the 1800's were smart in a way that people in the earliest days were.
We can say that any laws that are made NOW have to show some kind of compassion for the fellow human. We have to expect that, since now we are pretty intelligent as a species, we should be able to come up with more efficient, more intelligent laws. In other words, our laws should reflect our understanding of the world.
This Arizona law doesn't seem to reflect much in the way of efficiency. It actually seems kind of primitive (but like I said, I haven't seen it in action yet). While this law doesn't need to benefit the earliest humans (since they were around long before we developed a solid foundation of history and awareness), but it should comply with our understanding of things relating to recent times. The law makers should be much more aware of recent history than ancient history. In other words, I would expect a law maker to account for things that have happened yesterday, last week, last year, last century, but I don't expect law makers to account for things that happened 10000's of years ago.
What I mean to say is, this law doesn't seem to take into consideration that there were Mexicans living in the western states (and the general western areas) for a long time before the US essentially snatched them. The western states have long been a destination for the people of Mexico and they continue to be. There's no denying that immigrants love coming here.
This is why there is a constant influx of Mexican immigrants. It's inevitable that the people that have historically lived here (not too long ago, remember?) continue to try and make a life up here. A simple law can't bury fresh history. It's still vividly remembered amongst the Mexican people that these states were a place where Mexicans could live in peace; not even necessarily because of the job opportunities, but just because they could.
If it was so easy to stop immigration, the US would have succeeded, but since it's not so easy, you have to try an indirect approach. Ideally speaking, of course.
Okay, seriously, I will not post in this thread anymore. Let's stay in shape, wawaweewa!
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Dumb. And you bolded it as if it was a profound statement.
Please stick to playing video games.
