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[carver]

did somebody say jones finishes his opponents?

I mean.... He does have the most finishes in lhw history.. Not that it means anything or anything

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

I still believe Jones is the GOAT, especially with Anderson's questionableness 

 

[af1 1982]

It was a joke man saying DJ was P4P, you tellin me to relax saying I know it all, it seems like you can use some of your own advice

You can't tell me if he fought a better opponent, say DC or Rumble that you would have been comfortable with Jones pulling out the W. That's all I'm saying, he didn't put on his usual performance. When he fought DC I knew for a fact he was the best fighter in the world. He might have approached the fight how he usually does, but that =/= performance

Bruh you literally come in this thread acting like you know it all. I've talked to you about this in the past. Every time you interact with someone, it's to either correct them or disagree with them

If he fought rumble, it would have been a much better fight. I think he was waiting for OSP to push the pace and be aggressive and that's what he planned for.

Jones literally did anything he wanted in there, he just held back and played it ultra conservative. Why risk damage or injury and not be able to compete in two months at 200?

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

 
did somebody say jones finishes his opponents?

Just read his wiki 

 

[dman14]

how much they gonna throw at GSP for him to headline 200

 

[OTG]

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I mean.... He does have the most finishes in lhw history.. Not that it means anything or anything

but he hasn't finished an actual lhw in 5 years

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Bruh you literally come in this thread acting like you know it all. I've talked to you about this in the past. Every time you interact with someone, it's to either correct them or disagree with them

If he fought rumble, it would have been a much better fight. I think he was waiting for OSP to push the pace and be aggressive and that's what he planned for.

Jones literally did anything he wanted in there, he just held back and played it ultra conservative. Why risk damage or injury and not be able to compete in two months at 200?

You literally talk the same way just with a different opinion. I'm not correcting you, I'm telling you my opinion, just like you told your's. Don't take it personal, I never make it personal unless someone does it first. Check my posts

 

[af1 1982]

did somebody say jones finishes his opponents?

Chael
Bader
Shogun
Machida
Vitor
Rampage

Try again.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Chael
Bader
Shogun
Machida
Vitor
Rampage

Try again.

Don't correct him man, relax

No, but seriously, we share the same opinion on this

 

[af1 1982]

You literally talk the same way just with a different opinion. I'm not correcting you, I'm telling you my opinion, just like you told your's. Don't take it personal, I never make it personal unless someone does it first. Check my posts

Okay Bruh, whatever you say let me chill.

 

[OTG]

Chael
Bader
Shogun
Machida
Vitor
Rampage

Try again.

and how recently those fights take place

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Okay Bruh, whatever you say

let me chill.

We good! Honestly I wasn't expecting that post lol I don't mean to come off like that, honest. My bad

 

[P A Z]

I think DC would've beat the JJ that showed up tonight

 

[af1 1982]

Don't correct him man, relax

No, but seriously, we share the same opinion on this

I wouldn't state my opinion about you like that if I didn't LIKE you as a poster g

 

[af1 1982]

and how recently those fights take place

The better question is that at what point in their careers were these opponents?

This dude got machida with a standing ******* guillotine he got vitor with the Americana after he got his arm hyperextended.

And TKOd shogun at age ******* 23

The greatest fighter who's ever lived idc idc idc idc

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

I think DC would've beat the JJ that showed up tonight

Unfortunately I feel the same, also Rumble. But Jones even admitted he needed a warm up fight. He'll be byke, hopefully

 

[OTG]

im just correcting what you said... MM has had more finishes over the past few years than Jon even though he's made out to be so decision oriented.

 

[af1 1982]

Now that my Jones stanism is out of the way, I'll try and assess it objectively.

Jones controlled the entire fight and did whatever he wanted. But he lacked that killer instinct we all know he possesses.

If I were to make "excuses" for the dude, I think he respected OSPs power a little too much. I also think he wanted to minimize damage and get to UFC200 vs DC safely.

With that being said, he will not beat DC or rumble playing conservative like that. I also don't think he will fight like that either. I feel like that was his and jacksons game plan all all along.

there was some pressure on jones with this fight. The comeback, fighting OSP. Simply put, he prolly just didn't want to **** it up

But yeah he def needs to be more aggressive. I think he possesses all the tools already to beat anybody and everyone on LHW, he just had to take advantage of those missed opportunities in the octagon

 

[blackcease]

It's not his fault, and it's not necessarily fair to hold it against him, but it is a little wild that Jones never looks as amazing against dudes that can match his size.


Having said that, just off strength of opponents it's hard to argue against Jones. MM is nasty though. Joe Rogan exaggerates alot, but that dude might be all around the most skilled in mma.

 

[af1 1982]

im just correcting what you said... MM has had more finishes over the past few years than Jon even though he's made out to be so decision oriented.

I stand corrected, let me take the L.

But career wise, jones has 15 vs MM 14 while MM had fought more fights.

But yeah I feel you homie

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Cejudo just wasn't ready. Glad DJ showed him what's up

 

[af1 1982]

It's not his fault, and it's not necessarily fair to hold it against him, but it is a little wild that Jones never looks as amazing against dudes that can match his size.


Having said that, just off strength of opponents it's hard to argue against Jones. MM is nasty though. Joe Rogan exaggerates alot, but that dude might be all around the most skilled in mma.

I agree with the strength of opponents part. Flyweight is a fairly new division. But I don't think that should necessarily be held against DJ. He's just literally running through everyone they put through him

 

[dman14]

OSP w a broken arm

 

[af1 1982]

I wanna see MM break Silvas record but there's legit no one left

He's gon wash Benevidez again?

I think once he gets the record he's either retiring or dropping the belt to move up to 135 again.

How do y'all view the future of the flyweight division? Does it still exist after MM?

 

[freshbottoms]

Jones coulda ended it in the 3rd but looked like he was trying to get some practice in. Most impressed with MM tho. Wasn't even close v Olympic champion. Pettis is my boy but complained after Alvarez fight he was held down and wanted a stand up fight. Well.....