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Originally Posted by tokes99
Originally Posted by LDJ
nawlinsjunkie wrote:
Let me be honest here: Many people (including me) have a negative view towards movies with an all/majority black cast not because of racism, but because dudes like Tyler Perry have ruined their reputation. Madea, Barbershop, the Friday sequels (so unnecessary to ruin a classic), and those bull @#$% dramas that make no sense. Also, when these movies have casts including people that have no reason to be on screen ( like Chris Brown in some movie that came out last year), it's very hard to take them seriously. However, this movie is a historical one and won't be including any foolishness, so I'll be checking it out.
All-black cast movies used to be the @#$%. I went to a 80% white high school, and our social science teachers showed us movies like Boyz in the Hood and Friday (even though it's a comedy, it's also a satire with social commentary in many ways). Nowadays the only ones that are good are usually the ones with big name actors (Will Smith, Jamie Foxx, etc)
Its not just movies specifically tyler perry. Im just stating in general. like i used video games for example... out of the what about 50k video games that were ever made only 1 stars a black character and its stereotypical is it not. So when metal gear solid was made, how exactly would the gameplay etc... be different if snake was any other race but white?
How would uncharted be a different game if drake was black, asian, mexican? Are ppl saying in the 35 yr history of video games the thought of a main character being anything other then white never crossed a game creators mind? That my friends would be called bias. So c.o.d couldnt have soilders of any other race. Are ppl really gonna sit here and state that it is waaaaaaaaaaaaay out the realm that a soldier could be any other race but white?
Reason why all these games and movies are predominantly white is cause majority yes i said majority of ppl conciously or subconciously place certain races in certain positions, or view certain races in certain roles and to change this most ppl wouldnt know how to react or deal with it.
Im still waiting for examples and while at it explain how twlight wouldve been just as big of a movie it is now if the two main characters were replaced with lets say a idris alba and derek lee. And please dont say because the actors they got now are sooooooooooooo far better actors lol. Or how bought transformers... how much different would the movie have been if shia and the chick with feet for hands were replaced with will smith and lets say a beyonce...
Are ppl really gonna sit her and say they cinematography, the acting, etc... would have fell off so drastically? Cause i gotta tell ya the ppl who were playing the roles werent exactly on some johnny depp, denzel washington steez either.
none of things would be markedly different, but they would probably appeal to less people and that is what this thread is REALLY about...asian, black & brown folk have long been willing to see films with that do not star their a-alikes (and even if that weren't the case, we're still the minority) but that has not historically been the case for white folk.
that is why you have be, regardless to how you feel about perry's flicks or criticism of him, disappointed on the "feuding" going on between "black intellectuals" and the tyler perry, as stated earlier in one of these topics, instead of getting together and creating something of an alternative to hollywood...they have made so that everyone is picking sides...
thats what i am sayng and the reason they would appeal to less is because many ppl view certain races/genders/sexuality in certain roles aspects and once its outside that realm its foreign to them and their for not welcomed with open arms quite as well, or even at all.
Like i used twlight before. if the movie was the exact same except the love interest were gay men, lets not kid ourselves and say the movie would still do the numbers it did.
It would be ppl whether conciously or otherwise, have the notion of hey the gay guys suppose to be the sassy hot chic confiding side kick and work in some office, or be a seamstress, wedding planner. But conciously and out loud they would say something like oh i just didnt find the movie interesting. The subject or basis of the movie is something im not interested in.
i mean lets be foreal... no racist but look at fast and furious. lets not kid ourselves and say tons of majority of women esp white who sees the films are big action flick watchers, or are heavy into cars. they went to see what stereotypically is seen as the hot young stud. you take those so called hot heartthrob dreamy white guys in the film and inserts others, that movie flops like fresh fish in a frying pan... and everyone knows it or lying to themselves.