Originally Posted by ninjahood
umm...hellz naw
if performance # is identical and they both brand new cars, and da potential buy is fully informed on da stats, there's no way they
picking da M3...especially when it comes to maintainability after da warranty....
NT thinking =/= common sense
the New Mustang vs the new M3
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IDGAF it's BMW all day! screw that american BS
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Respected eh?Originally Posted by Baltimore
Um you can get a nice exterior kit or rims and custom interior and it will be respected more than the m3 and mustang. Come on dude its a NSXOriginally Posted by 10 Piece Nuggets
Originally Posted by LimitedRetroOG
Originally Posted by THockey66
$42.9k for an 10year old Acura/Honda.Originally Posted by Baltimore
Originally Posted by LimitedRetroOG
Good luck finding an NSX for $40K with 20K miles.
It's still an NSX...
Its still a 10 year old car that people mod for pure performance.
Performance = not everything.
These quotes come to mind:
"It's not about how you stand next to your car....it's how you drive your car..."
"NAWSSSSSS!!!!!!!"
"Too soon, junior
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Mustang GT without question.
Argue all you want, the return of the 5.0 makes the Mustang an instant classic.
The buyer that has M3 money to spend on a car could opt for the 2010 Shelby Mustang GT500 and still save thousands.
Some drivers like status, others like value.
Argue all you want, the return of the 5.0 makes the Mustang an instant classic.
The buyer that has M3 money to spend on a car could opt for the 2010 Shelby Mustang GT500 and still save thousands.
Some drivers like status, others like value.
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keepzdasneakz wrote
Performance = not everything.
Um you can get a nice exterior kit or rims and custom interior and it will be respected more than the m3 and mustang. Come on dude its a NSX
Respected eh?
These quotes come to mind:
"It's not about how you stand next to your car....it's how you drive your car..."
"NAWSSSSSS!!!!!!!"
"Too soon, junior"
In the first attempted quote i believe its race not drive so that an L. And what does a Jetta and a S2K with nos spraying too soon have to do with this????
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If I had that money I would get 2010 TL SH-AWD with sports package. Has only 305hp but its not like I'm going racing.
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mustang=blue collar america
m3=white collar america
pick your poison..
m3=white collar america
pick your poison..
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this thread is all over the place.. /exit
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Gotta expect it, esp with all the kids/ricers on NT
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The new Z28>
projected specs:
supercharged LSA V-8
556 horsepower at 6100 rpm and 551 pound-feet of torque at 3800 rpm.
60 mph in 3.9 seconds
quarter in the very low 12s
projected specs:
supercharged LSA V-8
556 horsepower at 6100 rpm and 551 pound-feet of torque at 3800 rpm.
60 mph in 3.9 seconds
quarter in the very low 12s
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new m3 is wack, the old ones were way better
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Originally Posted by LetItShine24
did you forget about "classic" american cars buddy? theres mustangs from the 60's that go for than 150k. NO ONE is going to remember an m3. i see early 90 mustangs that go more than 2005 m3s. typical euro jocker.
believe me in europe things are diffrent...m3 will be legend
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- BMW should be ashamed
; both of these cars primary selling point is phenomenal performance, and both deliver. However, the Mustang is essentially (objectively speaking) the performance
equal of the M3 for basically 1/2 the price
. I understand that the M3 handles better, but not 30K better; and the new Mustangs' handling/ characteristics /balance is vastly improved compared to the previous gen (2005-2009)
- The M3's interior is nice/adequate, but the M3 is clearly not selling interior refinement as the largest notch in its belt. You can get the same interior for basically half the price in a lower model 3-series or something from Acura, Lexus, etc. The point being that the interior does not make up that 30K price gap. If you're selling performance at twice the price, you need to dominate all categories, clearly...and that is just not the case here.
- Reliability???! If you look at an objective source, Consumer Reports (about as objective as you're going to get; considering that their data is obtained from the subscriber base...You and I) they have been ranking the American's above the German's in terms of reliability for years now
...Category: Problems per 1000 vehicles
- In conclusion: I love both of these cars, but when your compare both head-to-head, something is clearly insufficient. The Mustang appears to be a statistical bargain, while the M3 appears to take advantage of your finances/sensibilities. I can buy that Mustang, a sick 'cycle and put a nice down payment on a house instead of simply buying the M3; assuming both are being purchased in full upon inception.
- And if status is the issue, there's always the Shelby GT500, which is more comparable to the M3 in terms of price and certain to turn many heads. Value/Performance/Style/Reliability/Reputation/Comfort/Interior/Overall Refinement/Cost to Own/Resale/etc. Many factors to consider. This was fun to discuss.
Performance
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2010 Ford Shelby GT500 Specifications
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[/td][/tr][tr][td]Drivetrain[/td][/tr][tr][td]Layout[/td][td]Front Engine, RWD[/td][/tr][tr][td]Transmission[/td][td]6 Speed Manual, Dual 250mm clutch[/td][/tr][tr][td]Final Drive Ratio[/td][td]3.55:1[/td][/tr][tr][td]Engine[/td][/tr][tr][td]Type:[/td][td]Supercharged and Intercooled V8
[/td][/tr][tr][td]Engine & Transmission[/td][/tr][tr][td]Displacement cu in (cc):[/td][td]5.4 liters[/td][/tr][tr][td]Power bhp (kW) at RPM:[/td][td]540 bhp at 6200 rpm[/td][/tr][tr][td]Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM:[/td][td]480 lb-ft. @ 4500 rpm[/td][/tr][tr][td]Redline at RPM:[/td][td]6250 rpm
[/td][/tr][tr][td]Exterior[/td][/tr][tr][td]Body Type[/td][td]2 Door, 4 Seat Coupe[/td][/tr][tr][td]Curb Weight[/td][td]est. 3900 lbs.
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equal of the M3 for basically 1/2 the price
- The M3's interior is nice/adequate, but the M3 is clearly not selling interior refinement as the largest notch in its belt. You can get the same interior for basically half the price in a lower model 3-series or something from Acura, Lexus, etc. The point being that the interior does not make up that 30K price gap. If you're selling performance at twice the price, you need to dominate all categories, clearly...and that is just not the case here.
- Reliability???! If you look at an objective source, Consumer Reports (about as objective as you're going to get; considering that their data is obtained from the subscriber base...You and I) they have been ranking the American's above the German's in terms of reliability for years now
- In conclusion: I love both of these cars, but when your compare both head-to-head, something is clearly insufficient. The Mustang appears to be a statistical bargain, while the M3 appears to take advantage of your finances/sensibilities. I can buy that Mustang, a sick 'cycle and put a nice down payment on a house instead of simply buying the M3; assuming both are being purchased in full upon inception.
- And if status is the issue, there's always the Shelby GT500, which is more comparable to the M3 in terms of price and certain to turn many heads. Value/Performance/Style/Reliability/Reputation/Comfort/Interior/Overall Refinement/Cost to Own/Resale/etc. Many factors to consider. This was fun to discuss.
Performance
0 - 60 (sec)
4.1
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5.9
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12.2 @ 114.7
2010 Ford Shelby GT500 Specifications
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[/td][/tr][tr][td]Engine & Transmission[/td][/tr][tr][td]Displacement cu in (cc):[/td][td]5.4 liters[/td][/tr][tr][td]Power bhp (kW) at RPM:[/td][td]540 bhp at 6200 rpm[/td][/tr][tr][td]Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM:[/td][td]480 lb-ft. @ 4500 rpm[/td][/tr][tr][td]Redline at RPM:[/td][td]6250 rpm
[/td][/tr][tr][td]Exterior[/td][/tr][tr][td]Body Type[/td][td]2 Door, 4 Seat Coupe[/td][/tr][tr][td]Curb Weight[/td][td]est. 3900 lbs.
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Base Price: 2010 Ford Shelby GT500: Est. $45,000
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2009 CTS-V > M3/M5
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- No favoritism here. I absolutely love the Vorsteiner M3 kit.
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Originally Posted by ninjahood
umm...hellz naw
if performance # is identical and they both brand new cars, and da potential buy is fully informed on da stats, there's no way they
picking da M3...especially when it comes to maintainability after da warranty....
NT thinking =/= common sense
If I had the funds and had to choose one of these cars, I'm taking the M3 every time. I'd even take the M3 over a Mustang with $28g in upgrades (rims, engine, exhaust, body kit, whatever)...
IMO, the exterior of the M3 is much more attractive than the Mustang. I don't care if performance numbers are identical. There's more to a car.
Plus I think it's safe to say that the M3 interior is more luxurious than Ford's.
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30g's on the stang and another 30 on hookers and beer
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for the record though M3 >
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Seriously guys
If you got the funds for the m3, are you really gonna choose the mustang? You cop the mustang when you can't afford the M
If you got the funds for the m3, are you really gonna choose the mustang? You cop the mustang when you can't afford the M
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I would easily take this over the bmw. I drove an 2007 and it was amazing.Originally Posted by CaddyLac
2009 CTS-V > M3/M5
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Have you ever owned a BMW? There's a reason why everybody sells before 5 years are up...
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Bingo.
