The Official NBA Season Thread: Las Vegas Summer League | USA vs Germany at 3 ET on Fox

[B Sox]

Does the 50 games won eliminate Kobe’s mvp he was robbed of?

Interested to see the gymnastics in the responses you get here.

 

[clyde the glide]

We're comparing guards to a 7'0 guy. He should at least be able to offer a pinch of rim protection.
Especially when the other two guys are elite on that end.

And thats arguably the most important role of his position. Imagine and 2 who cant shoot or a 1 who cant dribble

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Does the 50 games won eliminate Kobe’s mvp he was robbed of?

No because clearly that don't matter in actually winning it.

Y'all Jokic fans just gotta deal with it. Its flaws everywhere you look in his MVP's. People ain't just having these debates because they hate him. It's been a big goalpost movement in giving him MVP's and people are gonna call it out. Y'all better hope dude gets a chip soon cuz it's gonna get worse looking back.

 

[clyde the glide]

Does the 50 games won eliminate Kobe’s mvp he was robbed of?

Nash deserved that one imo

 

[dman14]

They are all deserving
Seems like an episode of first tke in here this morning

 

[toneboi76]

The last two games, especially, were a bad look for Jokic.

Embarrassing effort. Like give a hard foul or something. Not my MVP

 

[sohi 23]

They are all deserving
Seems like an episode of first tke in here this morning

I don’t get how people obsess over MVP discourse all year when there’s great basketball to discuss.

There’s still like 15 games left too
mvp this, mvp that… this season is literally up for grabs. More parity in the league than ever before, but yet we want to have lame *** mvp discourse every day.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

And thats arguably the most important role of his position. Imagine and 2 who cant shoot or a 1 who cant dribble

So he's euro Westbrook

 

[addict4sneakers]

No because clearly that don't matter in actually winning it.

Y'all Jokic fans just gotta deal with it. Its flaws everywhere you look in his MVP's. People ain't just having these debates because they hate him. It's been a big goalpost movement in giving him MVP's and people are gonna call it out. Y'all better hope dude gets a chip soon cuz it's gonna get worse looking back.

Hey man I’m just asking what the NT criteria is, that’s all.

It should be giannis winning it though.

 

[elpablo21]

Jokertalk

 

[MVP]

 

[B Sox]

I don’t get how people obsess over MVP discourse all year when there’s great basketball to discuss.

There’s still like 15 games left too
mvp this, mvp that… this season is literally up for grabs. More parity in the league than ever before, but yet we want to have lame *** mvp discourse every day.

The topic of Jokic seems to get certain folks real mad.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Hey man I’m just asking what the NT criteria is, that’s all.

It should be giannis winning it though.

The NT criteria is win at least what... 45 games and put up stats and if we like you, you the MVP

 

[651akathepaul]

That's good.

I gotta learn how to make these.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Picks alone not gonna be enough for a team to get Bridges

 

[elpablo21]

Picks alone not gonna be enough for a team to get Bridges

What does this have to do with Jokic's PnR defense

 

[651akathepaul]

What does this have to do with Jokic's PnR defense

f'ery just in your DNA now, bro.

 

[pmatic]

Bucks and Sixers fans just gonna be compiling Jokic lowlights on defense the rest of the season.

 

[sohi 23]

I had my doubts about Reaves last season. Thought maybe his success was a combination of playing really hard and other guys underestimating him and that the rest of the league would figure him out. That was incorrect. He can legitimately play.

*takes shirt off*

1st round Guards drafted above Austin Reaves in 2021:

Cade
Green
Suggs
Giddey
Mitchell
Bouknight
Primo
Duarte
Moody
Tre Mann
Keon Johnson
Christopher
Grimes
Bones
Cam Thomas
Springer

Austin is going lottery in a redraft (probably top 10 tbh). He’s better than 80% of this list easily.

 

[rolaholic]

The NT criteria is win at least what... 45 games and put up stats and if we like you, you the MVP

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Jokic fans be in a tough spot because all of 'em are Laker haters.

 

[lawdog1]

The topic of Jokic seems to get certain folks real mad.

Absolutely, but even before the Joker era, I’ve found it weird how invested certain people get in the MVP race, particularly with trying to tear down candidates they don’t like for whatever reason.

 

[VARNELL HILL]

The irony here is that it's only been Laker fans in here claiming he didn't make it or seem to not remember

This would be a funny meme if you could pinpoint someone who's asserting one of these is valid and not the other. You asked B Sox if the bubble was real and I'm pretty sure he's not one of the dudes who claimed it wasn't

 

[B Sox]

*takes shirt off*

1st round Guards drafted above Austin Reaves in 2021:

Cade
Green
Suggs
Giddey
Mitchell
Bouknight
Primo
Duarte
Moody
Tre Mann
Keon Johnson
Christopher
Grimes
Bones
Cam Thomas
Springer

Austin is going lottery in a redraft. He’s better than 80% of this list easily.

He’s a good player. Could see him sneaking in the back end of the lotto in a redraft.

With that said, he was 23 years old entering that draft. Bunch of young dudes with potential getting picked over him isn’t a crazy concept.

 

[T0INE]

I don’t get how people obsess over MVP discourse all year when there’s great basketball to discuss.

There’s still like 15 games left too
mvp this, mvp that… this season is literally up for grabs. More parity in the league than ever before, but yet we want to have lame *** mvp discourse every day.

EYE agree with you though.

The West has the most compelling playoff race in years, IDGAF about the MVP race.

Like I said before Jokic and Embiid better show out in the playoffs. Jokic in particular since the West is so open.